Damage In Tolland Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, CT Rain said: Euro and NAM wind fields on Thursday are worth watching, Wiz. Tors galore. Tornadic Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Hopefully some very dangerous storms, looks good Thu. night possibly too! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: wow you're right...that's some pretty good llvl wind shear there. Also looks like we could get a plume of steeper lapse rates to work in. The shear we had in the region this last Friday afternoon was impressive. Don't know what the bulk values were, but directional. This summer so far has seen a lot of that....where you have a WSW or SW motion in the higher elevations of CBs leaning over SSE BL flow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, weathafella said: I think the point is we’re now the old mid Atlantic dew wise but it’s still obviously more oppressive there. A/C is an absolute necessity in all of sne below 2k. Before anyone sells their home, put it in-it’s now expected. When my wife and were first together 31 years ago, we used ac on some nights. A/C has been on continuously this summer. No we are not the old Mid-Atlantic dew they ave 65 forever we average 60/61 forever. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Tors galore. Tornadic Thursday 20 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said: Hopefully some very dangerous storms, looks good Thu. night possibly too! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: No we are not the old Mid-Atlantic dew they ave 65 forever we average 60/61 forever. Fact I’m not sure what they average but I grew up in NJ. It’s generally as humid or more here now. Fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, weathafella said: I think the point is we’re now the old mid Atlantic dew wise but it’s still obviously more oppressive there. A/C is an absolute necessity in all of sne below 2k. Before anyone sells their home, put it in-it’s now expected. When my wife and were first together 31 years ago, we used ac on some nights. A/C has been on continuously this summer. Would agree-my neighborhood was built in the 1970's with none of the houses having central air...now they all do. dews above 70 were rare here back then, today they are common....houses without CAC sell for less for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Would agree-my neighborhood was built in the 1970's with none of the houses having central air...now they all do. dews above 70 were rare here back then, today they are common....houses without CAC sell for less for sure Same around here, all new houses have ac, whether it's a high priced home or a starter home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Would agree-my neighborhood was built in the 1970's with none of the houses having central air...now they all do. dews above 70 were rare here back then, today they are common....houses without CAC sell for less for sure Even up here, now most have mini-splits or central air put in. It does feel more humid than it did a decade ago but it could be more on the mind lately. Part of it is that our society is less and less ok with being uncomfortable. We are less accepting of being uncomfortable and technology has allowed it easier to get efficient, quiet A/C that wasn’t as readily available 10-20 years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, weathafella said: I’m not sure what they average but I grew up in NJ. It’s generally as humid or more here now. Fact. Just looking at averages , July is a degree warmer in Boston. June is a wash and August .5 Would take an exceptional human to notice. We are only talking dews not RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Most people in my area don’t have central air. But more and more are putting in mini splits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Even up here, now most have mini-splits or central air put in. It does feel more humid than it did a decade ago but it could be more on the mind lately. Part of it is that our society is less and less ok with being uncomfortable. We are less accepting of being uncomfortable and technology has allowed it easier to get efficient, quiet A/C that wasn’t as readily available 10-20 years ago. This certainly plays a role.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Tors galore. Tornadic Thursday Meh for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Just looking at averages , July is a degree warmer in Boston. June is a wash and August .5 Would take an exceptional human to notice. We are only talking dews not RH I know. I happen to be a follower of wx since age 6-70 years ago. Normal max hasn’t changed much in any season. But dews are higher. When I was a kid, dews 60-65 were considered humid, 65-70 very humid, and 70+ oppressive. 70+ was quite rare in NJ in my growing up years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: Meh for the most part This is a big one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The other thing that’s noticeable.. dews in the 60’s are now called dry and comfortable by folks on this board , when in fact that is humid. A dew over is humid yet we now have that called COc k and folks opening windows and saying fans are fine . So the average New Englander has now acclimated to high dews . This is all part of the dew shift north 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: This is a big one honestly just started looking.. 18z NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I’ve got no problem with a 60F dew depending on temp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brewbeer Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Even up here, now most have mini-splits or central air put in. It does feel more humid than it did a decade ago but it could be more on the mind lately. Part of it is that our society is less and less ok with being uncomfortable. We are less accepting of being uncomfortable and technology has allowed it easier to get efficient, quiet A/C that wasn’t as readily available 10-20 years ago. I remember my parents getting their first air conditioned car in the mid 1970s, before that, there was no AC in most cars. Before cars with AC I remember they had front driver and passenger footwell vents that would blow dust and dirt into the cabin when you opened them at speed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather_or_Not Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Just looking at averages , July is a degree warmer in Boston. June is a wash and August .5 Would take an exceptional human to notice. We are only talking dews not RH It doesn’t take an exceptional human to notice the high mins. There’s been like 2 “windows open” nights in all of July. Worcester is +4.8 on avg lows for July. Believe me, I notice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I’ve got no problem with a 60F dew depending on temp I will always believe that oppressive starts at 70° dews. I’d slide those numbers down a bit as a result. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, weathafella said: I know. I happen to be a follower of wx since age 6-70 years ago. Normal max hasn’t changed much in any season. But dews are higher. When I was a kid, dews 60-65 were considered humid, 65-70 very humid, and 70+ oppressive. 70+ was quite rare in NJ in my growing up years. Likewise here, as you know. I can recall temps occasionally still in the 80s at midnight, but without a good hygrometer I had no way of knowing dewpoints. I watched probably thousands of Tex Antione's forecasts and never recall Uncle Wethbee quoting dews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Weather_or_Not said: It doesn’t take an exceptional human to notice the high mins. There’s been like 2 “windows open” nights in all of July. Worcester is +4.8 on avg lows for July. Believe me, I notice. Even relative humidity is flattened. We were talking dews not temps and over a period of a 120 years not a month. Yes this July has been very hot all can agree. The initial point that we are now what the Middle Atlantic used to be is poppycock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, weathafella said: I know. I happen to be a follower of wx since age 6-70 years ago. Normal max hasn’t changed much in any season. But dews are higher. When I was a kid, dews 60-65 were considered humid, 65-70 very humid, and 70+ oppressive. 70+ was quite rare in NJ in my growing up years. Dews are higher by a half degree and you noticed? Maybe your body as a kid was just a tad different. I mean the stats don't Lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: I will always believe that oppressive starts at 70° dews. I’d slide those numbers down a bit as a result. Intend to agree on the upper end things. I think it all depends on air temps as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 So far .34" of Nashua, just dumping water 76F, all that so far within 25 min 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Dews are higher by a half degree and you noticed? Maybe your body as a kid was just a tad different. I mean the stats don't Lie Is there a way to compare June through August only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCORH4L Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Giant down pour on RT 2 near FIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, ineedsnow said: Meh for the most part looks violent, could be SW though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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