WxWatcher007 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 The 2023 Atlantic hurricane season has arrived, and we have our first orange of the season in Invest 91L. Overnight we saw a little more organization, with pressure falls and persistent convection near a center of circulation. This led to the odds of development being raised this morning by the NHC. Satellite and radar still show that there are headwinds for tropical cyclone genesis, as westerly shear has convection lopsided on the eastern side of the system. It should be noted that it's June 1st lol, so most tropical this time of year is near the coast and often "slop". That said, recon is scheduled for today and tomorrow, the real window of development before the conditions become much more unfavorable. For those that are new to the tropical subforum--we use these threads to separate discussion for distinct areas of interests and named systems. Tropical Weather Outlook NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 800 AM EDT Thu Jun 1 2023 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico: 1. Northeastern Gulf of Mexico (AL91): Showers and thunderstorms associated with an area of low pressure over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico have increased and become better organized during the overnight hours. Environmental conditions appear marginally favorable for additional development over the next day or so, and a short-lived tropical depression or storm could form over that time span as the system meanders over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico. However, by this weekend environmental conditions are forecast to become unfavorable for additional development as the system drifts southward, likely remaining offshore over the Gulf of Mexico. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate the system later today, if necessary. Regardless of development, locally heavy rainfall could occur over portions of the Florida Peninsula through this weekend. Additional information on the rainfall and flooding potential can be found in products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office and Excessive Rainfall Outlooks issued by the Weather Prediction Center. * Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent. * Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent. Today marks the first day of the Atlantic hurricane season, which will run until November 30. The long-term averages for the number of named storms, hurricanes, and major hurricanes are 14, 7, and 3, respectively. The list of names for 2023 is as follows: Name Pronunciation Name Pronunciation -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Arlene ar-LEEN Lee lee Bret bret Margot MAR-go Cindy SIN-dee Nigel NY-juhl Don dahn Ophelia o-FEEL-ya Emily EH-mih-lee Philippe fee-LEEP Franklin FRANK-lin Rina REE-nuh Gert ger Sean shawn Harold HAIR-uld Tammy TAM-ee Idalia ee-DAL-ya Vince vinss Jose ho-Zay Whitney WHIT-nee Katia KAH-tya This product, the Tropical Weather Outlook, briefly describes significant areas of disturbed weather and their potential for tropical cyclone formation during the next seven days. The issuance times of this product are 2 AM, 8 AM, 2 PM, and 8 PM EDT. After the change to standard time in November, the issuance times are 1 AM, 7 AM, 1 PM, and 7 PM EST. A Special Tropical Weather Outlook will be issued to provide updates, as necessary, in between the regularly scheduled issuances of the Tropical Weather Outlook. Special Tropical Weather Outlooks will be issued under the same WMO and AWIPS headers as the regular Tropical Weather Outlooks. A standard package of products, consisting of the tropical cyclone public advisory, the forecast/advisory, the cyclone discussion, and a wind speed probability product, is issued every six hours for all ongoing tropical cyclones. In addition, a special advisory package may be issued at any time to advise of significant unexpected changes or to modify watches or warnings. NHC has the option to issue advisories, watches, and warnings for disturbances that are not yet a tropical cyclone, but which pose the threat of bringing tropical storm or hurricane conditions to land areas within 48 hours. For these land-threatening "potential tropical cyclones", NHC will issue the full suite of advisory and watch/warning products. Potential tropical cyclones share the naming conventions currently in place for tropical depressions, being numbered from a single list (e.g., "One", "Two", "Three", etc.). The Tropical Cyclone Update is a brief statement to inform of significant changes in a tropical cyclone, to post or cancel watches or warnings, or to provide hourly position updates between intermediate advisories when the storm center is easily followed by radar. It is used in lieu of or to precede the issuance of a special advisory package. Tropical Cyclone Updates, which can be issued at any time, can be found under WMO header WTNT61-65 KNHC, and under AWIPS header MIATCUAT1-5. All NHC text and graphical products are available on the web at https://www.hurricanes.gov. More information on NHC text and graphical products can be found at https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/NHC_Product_Description.pdf. New and updated products for the 2023 season can be found at https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/NHC_New_Products_Updates_2023.pdf. You can also interact with NHC on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/NWSNHC. Notifications are available via Twitter when select National Hurricane Center products are issued. Information about our Atlantic Twitter feed (@NHC_Atlantic) is available at https://www.hurricanes.gov/twitter.php. Forecaster Papin/Cangialosi/Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 This one looks like it might get classified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Early season development from a non-tropical origin resembles 1997 (4 storms) and 2015 (3 storms) where there were MJJ developments before a much below to below average MDR year. July 97 the last of the 4 was Cat 1 Danny that made landfall in Plaquemines Parish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Up to 70%/70% at 2pm EDT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 Posting text as well Tropical Weather Outlook NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 200 PM EDT Thu Jun 1 2023 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico: 1. Northeastern Gulf of Mexico (AL91): Recent satellite wind data, along with buoy and ship observations indicate the area of low pressure over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico has a broad but well-defined circulation with maximum sustained winds of about 35 mph. Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with the low is also showing signs of organization. Environmental conditions remain marginally favorable for additional development, and if these trends continue, a short-lived tropical depression or storm is likely to form as soon as this afternoon. The system is likely to meander over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico through tonight but begin a slow southward motion on Friday. By this weekend, environmental conditions are forecast to become unfavorable for additional development as the system continues moving southward, likely remaining offshore over the Gulf of Mexico. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate the system later this afternoon. Regardless of development, locally heavy rainfall could occur over portions of the Florida Peninsula through this weekend. Additional information on the rainfall and flooding potential can be found in products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office and Excessive Rainfall Outlooks issued by the Weather Prediction Center. * Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent. * Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent. Forecaster Papin/Cangialosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Recon enroute now. Curious to see what they find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 Recon descending into 91L now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Recon has found plenty of 35-40 kt wind. Circulation looks somewhat broad but I’d guess this is our first named storm of the year (yes I know there was a sub tropical storm in January). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Recon has found plenty of 35-40 kt wind. Circulation looks somewhat broad but I’d guess this is our first named storm of the year (yes I know there was a sub tropical storm in January). Agree. Thought we’d see a more well-defined circulation but this is pretty close to a tropical cyclone if it’s not there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Kinda surprised with the data they didn’t go 40. Dr Knabb said it’s a coin flip & the forecasters decision. Not a big discrepancy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Happy First Day of Hurricane Season! Yesterday felt like a Tropical Storm here in Gulfport, Florida. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 The cone on this one seems rather unusual to me. Do we get many storms in the gulf that transit North to South ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hotair said: The cone on this one seems rather unusual to me. Do we get many storms in the gulf that transit North to South ? Definitely not typical in June 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 The system is heavily sheared but has good vorticity and likely will keep generating strong convection in the eastern quad. I think recon will eventually find the winds to upgrade it at some point me. Nothing major but I see a low end TS out of this. as mentioned before the motion is interesting and atypical for june. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 FL winds do not support an upgrade but pressure and SFMR winds would. Circulation has definitely wrapped up since yesterday as well. It’s a flip of the coin I guess as to whether to upgrade it. It is definitely sheared but that is a tight circulation with convection firing nearby enough to make it look like a low end TS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 No upgrade with 11AM EDT advisory even with a SLP drop from 1007 to 1002 mb since the last advisory. 1002 is unusually low for a TD. This is from the NHC discussion: Convection has persisted throughout the morning, although the tropical cyclone remains highly asymmetric and poorly organized. The low-level center is located southwest of the large area of persistent deep convection. An Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft has found no evidence of intensification this morning, and the Dvorak satellite intensity estimate continues to support a steady current intensity of 30 kt for this advisory. The Hurricane Hunters will continue investigating the system for the next several hours, and a short-lived increase to tropical storm intensity cannot be ruled out. However, conditions are expected to become increasingly unfavorable for intensification later today and tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, GaWx said: No upgrade with 11AM EDT advisory even with a SLP drop from 1007 to 1002 mb since the last advisory. 1002 is unusually low for a TD. This is from the NHC discussion: Convection has persisted throughout the morning, although the tropical cyclone remains highly asymmetric and poorly organized. The low-level center is located southwest of the large area of persistent deep convection. An Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft has found no evidence of intensification this morning, and the Dvorak satellite intensity estimate continues to support a steady current intensity of 30 kt for this advisory. The Hurricane Hunters will continue investigating the system for the next several hours, and a short-lived increase to tropical storm intensity cannot be ruled out. However, conditions are expected to become increasingly unfavorable for intensification later today and tonight. With pressure outside the circulation being unusually low, around 1008mb, there's not much of a gradient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, olafminesaw said: With pressure outside the circulation being unusually low, around 1008mb, there's not much of a gradient. Fair enough but I've seen TDs with even less gradient get upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, GaWx said: Fair enough but I've seen TDs with even less gradient get upgraded. It’s definitely close but with minimal/no land impacts and FL winds below TS force I don’t disagree with NHC. Right on the cusp of a name though wouldn’t take much to get a 40mph storm at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, NorthHillsWx said: It’s definitely close but with minimal/no land impacts and FL winds below TS force I don’t disagree with NHC. Right on the cusp of a name though wouldn’t take much to get a 40mph storm at this point Before typing this I hadn’t looked at most recent recon. This is a storm. FL winds up and SFMR winds between 35-40 kts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Before typing this I hadn’t looked at most recent recon. This is a storm. FL winds up and SFMR winds between 35-40 kts Thanks. It wouldn't surprise me if they do upgrade with those winds. But I think that the highest FL winds are ~40-60 miles N of the center. Am I looking at the data correctly? If so, would that matter in the decision about upgrading? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Arlene it is! https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT2+shtml/021433.shtml Data from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters indicate that the depression has strengthened into a tropical storm. On the last leg of the current mission, the aircraft found maximum 925 mb flight-level winds of around 50 kt and SFMR surface winds of around 35 kt. Based on these data, Tropical Depression Two has been upgraded to Tropical Storm Arlene with estimated peak winds of 35 kt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Arlene is no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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