Typhoon Tip Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I'm wondering if the guidance is even factoring in the smoke sort of aerosol contaminant. I mean there is hope that this shit-show has an intersession tomorrow ...with sun into western zones while at least partly cloud along the coast ... This would send T's into the low 70 on average given the thermal column. However, that smoke on vis imagery this morning is dense, enough so to obscure the ground almost entirely out there in western Ontario, and it is heading south/east... At what point does it cost temperature? The thing is, smoke aerosols are not micro-physically the same as volcanic aerosols. There absorption spectra is different ...I think on both side, incoming vs outgoing converted radiation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 12 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: E MA to E ME shore is just brutal place to live . Year round . Couldn’t pay most folks enough Sort of like when the great Yogi Berra said this about Ruggeri's Restaurant in St. Louis! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Some gusty wind/small hailers for Wiz tomorrow? The RAP forecast soundings aren't the worst I've ever seen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I'm wondering if the guidance is even factoring in the smoke sort of aerosol contaminant. I mean there is hope that this shit-show has an intersession tomorrow ...with sun into western zones while at least partly cloud along the coast ... This would send T's into the low 70 on average given the thermal column. However, that smoke on vis imagery this morning is dense, enough so to obscure the ground almost entirely out there in western Ontario, and it is heading south/east... At what point does it cost temperature? The thing is, smoke aerosols are not micro-physically the same as volcanic aerosols. There absorption spectra is different ...I think on both side, incoming vs outgoing converted radiation ? Smoke definitely blocks incoming solar radiation so it will have an affect if it’s dense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Some gusty wind/small hailers for Wiz tomorrow? The RAP forecast soundings aren't the worst I've ever seen. Let’s get peas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, OceanStWx said: Some gusty wind/small hailers for Wiz tomorrow? The RAP forecast soundings aren't the worst I've ever seen. I think the best opportunity for SNE to get severe weather during the spring and summer would be to send Wiz on a 6 month vacation to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Some gusty wind/small hailers for Wiz tomorrow? The RAP forecast soundings aren't the worst I've ever seen. Going to be chasing tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 We may actually improve conditions from the NE today... Looking at obs/sat/rad trends, there's a clear dry slot/wrap-around moving apace SW down the Maine coast that's unzipping this gunk. That, worked over by the sun ... perhaps we end up with a better afternoon? I would have "enjoyed" this stretch much more if we actually got real rain out of it. I don't think I've had much more than an inch to 1.25" since this April cut-off set up shop out there - which is okay.. but 3 or 4 would have been better. Which .. this is exactly what this has been. It's just doing it excessively late. I've seen coastals in June before. But they move right along. This stalled, murky spikes of Labrador ass vomit thing is pure April, happening about 45 days later in the climate calendar than typical. One paragraph op-ed: I think it is an indirect CC/attributable aspect. The seasonal lagging has been more prevalent in the last 10 to 15 years... It's like the new mid winter speed rage thing is "pushing" the real winter climate backward October/November ... and post-lapsing it into Mays. Hence why we've seen so many odd snow and/or snow-supporting atmospheric wave events in those respective transition months. Granted, we're not getting a snow supportive jack-shit in June. The point is ... these climate signals are being pushed ahead of schedule in autumn, and seemingly delay in springs in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Going to be chasing tomorrow! Enjoy the drive to Montana! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Clouds starting to dissipate over W New England... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 12 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: E MA to E ME shore is just brutal place to live . Year round . Couldn’t pay most folks enough The beaches there are favored by pasty folk who have lived there and never experience mild water temps where you can enjoy the ocean - it’s all they know , and 8 year olds will go in any water temp . Over priced Still way better than living in Springfield Ma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: Have had 0.01” during that time back here. If you squint long enough you can imagine that we all just received 12-24" and the low is rotting in the gulf of Maine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I’d love to get some severe thundersmoke tomorrow afternoon 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 13 hours ago, dryslot said: Temps never made it out of the 40's here today............... 47-41 yesterday, shades of early June 2015. Reported 1.09" to cocorahs, finally getting some siggy rain after the "tenth-a-day" regime. Now for some warmth to allow the nicely watered veggies to grow. Maybe Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Good op for observational science tomorrow ... Do smoke aerosols have any effect in the condensate micro-physics? -think SAL dust. With SAL, it creates an over-abundance of condensation nuclei, which too much proficiency cause the moisture to disperse among them and halts the adiabatic process. Not sure about smoke though ... There's also a 'scrubbing' question for me. Like, I wonder if a CB spreads an anvil and moves down stream, does it leave streak where's it's tunneled a gap through the smoke plume. Actually, it probably moves along with the smoke so likely not... unless the steering is differentiable/sheer per altitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said: I’d love to get some severe thundersmoke tomorrow afternoon Sounds like one of those sci-fi TV weather movies... Ice Twisters! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: He may crack this week. The summer that never started. Should be a fairly nice week overall . 80’s by weekend . Away from oceans 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Tomorrow doesn’t look half bad for a few hailers. Would love to have another stormy afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Should be a fairly nice week overall . 80’s by weekend . Away from oceans Think 80s in the hills? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Another BN week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Should be a fairly nice week overall . 80’s by weekend . Away from oceans So many doubts. Let's CMC and break records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, tamarack said: 47-41 yesterday, shades of early June 2015. Reported 1.09" to cocorahs, finally getting some siggy rain after the "tenth-a-day" regime. Now for some warmth to allow the nicely watered veggies to grow. Maybe Friday. 1.26" yesterday and and 1.99" so far for the month, My newly seeded area held up ok but i have more work to do with the drainage and a couple low spots it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: So many doubts. Let's CMC and break records. This warm season has been great so far...no complaints. Only a couple of obnoxious days. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: This warm season has been great so far...no complaints. Only a couple of obnoxious days. Agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Starting winter prep this week with el nino research, so its refreshing not to have to battle swamp ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: So many doubts. Let's CMC and break records. Even the cmc is 80s by Sunday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Need the warmth. This blows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: Even the cmc is 80s by Sunday WTTTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Yeah 80 on the tarmac Sunday. Not all weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: Even the cmc is 80s by Sunday 82F at BDL? Kev’s station would be like 75F. It’d be like me using BTV max temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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