Roger Smith Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I wonder if the heat in Texas will eventually begin to spread north and east, looking back at maps for June 1936 it looked fairly similar and that intense heat did not really begin to move out of the south until early July. The real push northeast began around July 3-4. It reached the Midwest by 5th-6th and the northeast U.S. by 8th-9th. I don't suppose this will be equal but it could be a change in the pattern. There were actually some quite cool days in early July of 1936 before the record heat wave began. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, winterwarlock said: Good...we don't need 4-5 inches of rain 1-2 inches are fine Why are people rooting for 7 days of clouds at the total beginning of summer Yes we do. No it isn't. Have you seen some of the reservoirs? Did you know that NY State is about to see it's worst strawberry harvest in decades? It's really dry... I'd rather not have a wet week but sometimes it's necessary. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, gravitylover said: Yes we do. No it isn't. Have you seen some of the reservoirs? Did you know that NY State is about to see its worst strawberry harvest in decades? It's really dry... I'd rather not have a wet week but sometimes it's necessary. Exactly. We need a prolonged very wet period to bring back up ground water levels as well. It’s actually been wetter on the south shore of the island than it has been in the city which is very rare during the warm season. Meanwhile, it definitely does not feel like the first day of summer! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 9 hours ago, winterwarlock said: Good...we don't need 4-5 inches of rain 1-2 inches are fine Why are people rooting for 7 days of clouds at the total beginning of summer That's better than the heat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 The next 8 days are averaging 74degs.(66/81) or -1. Month to date is 68.9[-1.7]. Should be 70.3[-1.5] by the 29th. Reached 82 here yesterday at 5pm. Today: 68-73, wind e., m. cloudy, 60 tomorrow AM. 64*(77%RH) here at 7am{was 62 at 5am}. 67* at 9am. 70* at 10am. 72* at Noon. 74* at 3pm. 76* at 4pm. Reached 77* at 5pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: That's better than the heat ??? Its summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 9 hours ago, SRRTA22 said: Sorry you spent all your warlock points on may where we had our sunniest may on record Except it was milky haze most of those days so i didnt notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: ??? Its summer I guess it depends on what your preference is. I personally like the heat but rather not the humidity. Definitely need the rain but a week straight of it is ehhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 It's actually a bit chilly this morning. This spring feels like The Ice Age compared to the last 10 years and it's not too far off from the old normal. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Loving the cool mornings 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Happy 1st day of Summer Longest day of the year The road to winter begins today 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Year without a summer? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: It's actually a bit chilly this morning. This spring feels like The Ice Age compared to the last 10 years and it's not too far off from the old normal. It’s been summer for three weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Locally warmer version of the 2009 developing El Niño with the AMJ maximum temperature coming in April. Monthly Highest Max Temperature for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Apr May Jun Season 2002 97 90 96 97 1990 94 83 92 94 2023 93 90 91 93 2009 93 87 89 93 1976 93 83 93 93 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, qg_omega said: It’s been summer for three weeks Today is the 1st day of real summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Year without a summer? I'm praying 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Loving the cool mornings We've used the AC once here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 65/55 Transition from So Cal (Marine influence) dryer / desert pattern into a Florida like one is starting. ULL over the Carolinas is spinning up clouds and showers the next 48 hours. Thu (6/22) looks the most raw with ENW flow and steady rain throughout the day. By Fri (6/23) the flow is coming around southerly and with it comes much more humid/ warm and enhanced storm chances. Sat (6/24) through the end of June a humid / steamy and potentially warm and west pattern. Next trough builds into the GL/OV to end the month. Where and when the sun comes out look for some rapid warming with 850s >15c so enough sun could yield a 90 but also fuel further storms. The area looks good for > 2 inches of rain widespread the next 8 days and some areas well over >4 inches with slow moving drenchers caught aloft in a stagnant southerly flow / caught up frontal. Beyond there overall warm and humid and likely continued steamy. The Western Atlantic Ridge is likely to build west or expanded Southeeast ridge in longer term. We'll have to see how the July Fourth weekend fares with persistent southerly flow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, winterwarlock said: ??? Its summer Then you'll love the nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Records: Highs: EWR: 100 (1953) NYC: 97 (1988) LGA: 98 (2012) Lows: EWR: 46 (1940) NYC: 49 (1897) LGA: 53 (1940) Historical: 1893 - On the first day of summer the temperature at Dodge City, KS, soared to 106 degrees during the midst of a blistering heat wave. The heat wave initiated a severe three year drought in the Central Plains Region. Ironically, at about the same time, heavy rains in the Mississippi Valley were causing the river to swell to its highest level of record at New Orleans, LA. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1919 - Seven heavy coach cars of a moving train were picked up and thrown from the tracks by tornado winds. A baggage car was set down thirty feet away from the rest of the train. (The Weather Channel) 1954 - A severe hailstorm struck Wichita KS and vicinity causing nine million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel) 1972 - Phoenix, AZ, was drenched with 1.64 inches of rain late on the 21st and early on the 22nd to easily surpass their previous June rainfall record of 0.95 inches. The total for the month was 1.70 inches. (The Weather Channel) 1987 - A tornado destroyed 57 mobile homes at the Chateam Estates trailer park northwest of Detroit, MI, killing one person and injuring six others. Total damage was estimated at 1.7 million dollars. Thunderstorms over Lower Michigan also drenched the Saginaw Valley with up to 4.5 inches of rain in less than six hours. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - The first full day of summer was a torrid one, with afternoon highs of 100 degrees or above reported from the Northern and Central Plains to the Ohio Valley. Sixty-nine cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. The high of 110 degrees at Sioux Falls, SD, was an all-time record for that location. Highs of 103 degrees at Des Moines, IA, 102 degrees at Fort Wayne, IN, 109 degrees at Huron, SD, 108 degrees at Sioux City, IA, and 101 degrees at South Bend IN were records for June. (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - The first day of summer heralded snow in the northern and central Rockies. In Colorado, 15 inches of snow was reported at the summit of Mount Evans and, in Wyoming, 18 inches was reported at Dickensen Park, west of Lander. Heavy rain continued in the eastern U.S. Huntsville, AL, reported a record 11.65 inches for the month, compared to the 0.17 inch rainfall total in June 1988. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2005 - A slow-moving thunderstorm dumped up to a foot of hail in southeastern portions of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Snowplows had to be used to clear a route through a major thoroughfare in the city. Heavy rainfall from the storm left up to 4 feet of water in city streets, trapping dozens of motorists (Associated Press). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: We've used the AC once here... Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 We'll have to dig this part of the thread up when it's in the 90's with dews in the 70's. It's literally the summer solstice lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: We'll have to dig this part of the thread up when it's in the 90's with dews in the 70's. It's literally the summer solstice lol. I'm afraid Roger ends up being right and that texas heat gets us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: We'll have to dig this part of the thread up when it's in the 90's with dews in the 70's. It's literally the summer solstice lol. There may be a sunnier day next week that meets that criteria between storms. 2003 style pattern. Its more likely to stay in the low / mid 80s but with enough breaks in clouds at times will push mid/upper 80s and higher heat indices. Also potential for a lot of rain with slow movers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 Nam really has the precip struggling to make it up here tomorrow morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Nam really has the precip struggling to make it up here tomorrow morning HP hanging on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Nam really has the precip struggling to make it up here tomorrow morning Yup. .25 or less 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Roger Smith said: I wonder if the heat in Texas will eventually begin to spread north and east, looking back at maps for June 1936 it looked fairly similar and that intense heat did not really begin to move out of the south until early July. The real push northeast began around July 3-4. It reached the Midwest by 5th-6th and the northeast U.S. by 8th-9th. I don't suppose this will be equal but it could be a change in the pattern. There were actually some quite cool days in early July of 1936 before the record heat wave began. I think most people would be thrilled with this outcome. July 1936 was generally summer of yesteryear standards compared to recent years outside of a 7-8 day extreme heat wave. Even including the heat wave, it was generally at or below modern normals in much of the eastern US. Just by way of example, at New York City, the average high was 86.0F and the average low was 66.4F, with a mean temperature of 76.2F, which is 1.3F below the 1991-2020 normal. Excluding just 8 days [7/8-7/15], the average high plummets to 83.1F and the average low drops to 64.5F, producing a very comfortable mean of 73.8F over that 23-day stretch. With modern amenities like A/C, it wouldn't be too difficult to weather a similar stretch. Especially if it meant the rest of the month produced low temperatures not seen in decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Expect the rain to underperform 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 hmm rain struggling to get here, color me shocked! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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