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44 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

We just had the warmest April on record and March was pretty warm too. 

I swear everyone has the memory of a goldfish 

I don’t consider March “Spring” as less than a week fall under spring. April outside of a really intense week was cool. And stats don’t lie. Spring is our slowest warning season. So no I don’t have the mind of a goldfish. But I am a climate scientist and yes spring is our slowest warming season. 
 

For more info: https://www.climatecentral.org/climate-matters/fastest-warming-seasons-2022 

it is really interesting to see how this varies by region. 

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34 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Right? And you'd think we're coming off a -5 month of May

Against much warmer 30 year averages. It is pretty noticeable when we are routinely putting up +3 to +5 months easily then a rare +0.3 to even -0.4 like May. We haven’t had a below average winter month in quite some time. 

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7 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

Against much warmer 30 year averages. It is pretty noticeable when we are routinely putting up +3 to +5 months easily then a rare +0.3 to even -0.4 like May. We haven’t had a below average winter month in quite some time. 

Yeah, spring is our only season without a +1 monthly rise in temperatures with the release of the new climate normals.

The monthly temperature increases from 81-10 to 91-20 have been more pronounced during certain months. Newark and Islip are compared below. The +1.0 or warmer months for either station were bolded. 

……….EWR…..ISP

Dec…+1.5….+1.5

Jan….+1.2…+1.3

Feb….+0.5….+0.5

 

Mar….+0.4….+0.6

Apr….+0.5…..+0.6

May...+0.6….+0.9

 

Jun….+0.3….+0.6

Jul…..+1.4…..+1.1

Aug...+0.6….+0.9

 

Sep….+1.0….+1.3

Oct…..+0.9..+1.4

Nov….+0.2..+0.5

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Temperatures this morning tumbled to their lowest readings in June in more than 20 years in parts of the New York City area. At Central Park, the 49° low temperature was the first June reading below 50° since June 7, 2000 when the mercury fell to 49°.

Low temperatures included:

Montgomery: 38° (old record: 39°, 2019)
New York City-Central Park: 49°
New York City-JFK Airport: 49° (tied record set in 1976)
New York City-LaGuardia Airport: 51° (tied record set in 1978 and tied in 1988 and 2003)
White Plains: 44° (tied record set in 1964)

Portland had a high temperature of 49° through 5 pm. The daily record low maximum temperature of 51° was set in 2018. If that high holds, today would be only the 6th day on record that Portland has had a high temperature below 50° in June. Records go back to 1874. The last such high temperature occurred on June 9, 1956.

An extended period of generally cooler than normal temperatures is ongoing. No return to summerlike heat is likely through at least mid-month.

The latest ECMWF weeklies suggest that sustained warmer than normal conditions could develop during or after the second week of June.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +2.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.4°C for the week centered around May 24. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +2.28°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.42°C. El Niño conditions will very likely develop during the summer.

The SOI was -15.89 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -1.113 today.

On June 2 the MJO was in Phase 1 at an amplitude of 1.205 (RMM). The June 1-adjusted amplitude was 1.237 (RMM).

 

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June 1 (87 NYC) and 2 (91 NYC) were hot days -- in the past, when NYC has started June with 90s on either or both of 1st and 2nd, the longest wait after June 2nd (whether it hit 90 on 1st or 2nd or both) for another 90 degree reading was 44 days to July 16th in 1918. It was very cool most of that period (record low max 59F on June 23rd, and then turned very hot from mid-July to mid-August (Aug 7, 1918 104F all-time August record), also 95F, 98F, 95F on July 21st to 23rd, and 96F on Aug 6th and 14th.   

In 1895 there were record high values May 31st to June 3rd (96, 96, 96, 95) and then no more 90s until July 7th; it was 95F on July 21 but even so, the summer was rather cool in general after mid-June but more record heat occurred in mid to late September (20th to 23rd all record highs 93, 95, 95, 97).

In 1912 (86 June 1st) a max of 91 on June 2nd was not surpassed until June 29th (94F). July 8-11 had mid-90s, 16th hit 94F, after which the summer was cool/average. 

Most other cases, if they didn't continue hot for the following week, returned to heat around mid-June. 

Only two other years exceeded 89 on both June 1 and 2, namely 1895 and 1918 (94, 91). In 1925, 91 and 88 were followed by five very hot days, 94, 99, 99, 98, 96. (June 4-7 all records) ... Following that heat wave, the next 90+ reading in 1925 was 90 on June 10th and there were two more 90+ days in June, four in July and two in August but on the whole it was a rather cool summer, an average September and a very cool October followed. 

Nine years hit 90+ on only the 1st, and four others on only the 2nd, with 2023 making that five. Thus a total of 16 of 155 years of record have seen a 90+ reading on 1st-2nd and that increases to 19 for 1st-3rd. 

There were only three years to hit 90+ on June 3rd without having also registered 90+ on 1st or 2nd:  1871 (90 3rd, 90 4th), 1936 (90 3rd) and we all know what happened after a rather cool June in 1936, and then 1943 had 92, 95 on 3rd-4th, with several more hot spells that month, including 99, 96, 98 on 25th to 27th. 

In 1877 it was 89 on June 2nd and that summer did not return to any warmer reading until July 26th (90). August of that summer was a bit warmer than July. 

Other outcomes: 

90 June 1, 1879 (82 2nd) was followed by 90, 91 on June 27th and 28th.

93 June 2, 1919 (74 1st) led into a warm week (92, 95 on June 3rd-4th, next 90+ was July 1st leading into a blistering 97, 99, 98 interval July 3-5. Sep 8-9 hit 93 and the summer was variable in general but often quite warm.

Not quite a direct hit but June 2-6 1923 all around 90 (89, 88, 89, 92, 91) followed by record heat 20th to 26th -- most of these have been surpassed (98, 96, 82, 86, 93, 97, 94). More heat followed at intervals in July (99, 98 on 20th and 21st) but end of July and most of August were rather cool in 1923. 

In 1937 June 1st was 93F (2nd 79) and it next hit 90 on June 25th, with frequent 90s in July and August. (98, 100, 100 July 8-10)

1951 another near miss of 89, 83 to start June, and the next reading above 89 was 90F on July 15th. 

June 2nd 1961 (90) was soon followed by a record 96F on 13th. 

June 1st 1962 (92) was followed by four days in the low 90s June 16th to 19th. 

June 1st 1986 (90) was followed by 91F on June 23rd and 98, 98 July 6-7. 

June 1st 1987 (93) was followed by 94F on June 16th and 96F on 20th.

June 1st 1988 (90) was first followed by 90, 93, 96, 96, 92 12th to 16th and 97, 98 June 21st, 22nd. Lots of heat followed all summer.

June 1st 1989 (91) and 2nd (89) next returned to 90s on June 26th and 27th (90, 92). 

June 2nd 2000 (90) was followed by 92F on 10th and 11th. The rest of the summer was very cool, especially late July.

2007 another near miss (91 May 31, and 88, 89 June 1-2), first 90+ reading after that was 91 on June 26th. It was another rather cool summer with no readings above 92F.

June 1st 2011 (90) was followed by 94, 95 on 8th and 9th. 

June 1st 2013 (90) and 2nd (88) were followed by 92, 91 on June 24th-25th. 

Since 2013 and before 2023, the earliest 90+ reading in June has been 92 on 6th, 2021. 

 

A general note would be that years with early June hot days often see severe heat in July and August, but not always. 

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At the other end of the scale, June 1-5 1945 had no reading above 63 F on 2nd, and 58, 53, 52, 55 on the other dates were all record low maxima. Traces of snow fell in upstate NY and southern ON in that cold spell with some 1-2" lake effect noted.

2015 also started June very cool with highs of 58, 55, 70, 65, 70. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, JustinRP37 said:

I don’t consider March “Spring” as less than a week fall under spring. April outside of a really intense week was cool. And stats don’t lie. Spring is our slowest warning season. So no I don’t have the mind of a goldfish. But I am a climate scientist and yes spring is our slowest warming season. 
 

For more info: https://www.climatecentral.org/climate-matters/fastest-warming-seasons-2022 

it is really interesting to see how this varies by region. 

April was still record warm regardless, which if you believe only had 1 intense week makes it that much more impressive.

And sure spring isn't warming as fast but it's still warming. 

Our "cool" May would've been AN if we used earlier averages. 

To each their own but I consider spring March-May, summer June- August and so forth. 

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The next 8 days are averaging    68degs.(57/75) or -3.

Reached 68 here yesterday at 4pm.

Today:    70-75, wind nw., p. cloudy, 60 tomorrow AM.

58*(66%RH) here at 7am{was 56 at 6am}    59* at 8am.      61* at 9pm.      68* at Noon.     70* at 1pm.      Reached 78* at 5:30pm.     65* at 8pm.

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58 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

51F in Hastings this morning with the heat kicking on for a second day in a row.

 

That’s a first for June!

You have the heat on? Haha How cold does the house get?  

50 in Syosset & 49 in Muttontown this morning. 2nd day of 40s in Muttontown.

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Sunny and up to 63.  Dry and a bit below normal the next 4 days as trough remains backed into the northeast pushing in cooler  / onshore flow at times.  Will be dealing with nearby ULL and widespread clouds at times.  A split with  upper 70s today in most spots, perhaps a stray 80 with enough sun.   Tue (6/6) 80 for many /low 80s in the warmer spots before cooling down a bit in the night as ULL moves through.  Thu (6/8) and Fri (6/9) into the 70s for the most part.  

Trough lifts and flattens by the weekend a brief surge of warmth Sun (6/11) and Mon (6/12). 

Next potential ULL moves through under the building ridge 6/12 - 6/14 with perhaps next rain potential, before heights rise and warmer regime moves east by mid month.

 

Beyond there we'll see how warm and dry we remain and how that influences temps potential.

 

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1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

51F in Hastings this morning with the heat kicking on for a second day in a row.

 

That’s a first for June!

I'm resisting flipping the switch at night but it might be necessary. 

55 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

You have the heat on? Haha How cold does the house get?  

50 in Syosset & 49 in Muttontown this morning. 2nd day of 40s in Muttontown.

It was 54 in my living room this morning. That's enough to make a body achy.

 

Here comes the smoke again :(

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5 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

April was still record warm regardless, which if you believe only had 1 intense week makes it that much more impressive.

And sure spring isn't warming as fast but it's still warming. 

Our "cool" May would've been AN if we used earlier averages. 

To each their own but I consider spring March-May, summer June- August and so forth. 

I'm not denying any of that. Yesterday was downright cool for any part of the year up here. I was just pointing out that May and June lately have had these periods of cooler than average runs that really are not seen in our other seasons. I would kill to even have a 'normal' winter month at this point, even in our warmer regime. Part of the reason that makes our sub-forum so interesting is the diversity of weather we do see across the region. I'm in the northern reaches now of our sub-forum and April was not record warm, it was our 9th warmest and 2nd wettest on record. Moving from Tuckahoe to up here I can say that the weather is much different than the true "metro" area. 

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6 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

I'm not denying any of that. Yesterday was downright cool for any part of the year up here. I was just pointing out that May and June lately have had these periods of cooler than average runs that really are not seen in our other seasons. I would kill to even have a 'normal' winter month at this point, even in our warmer regime. Part of the reason that makes our sub-forum so interesting is the diversity of weather we do see across the region. I'm in the northern reaches now of our sub-forum and April was not record warm, it was our 9th warmest and 2nd wettest on record. Moving from Tuckahoe to up here I can say that the weather is much different than the true "metro" area. 

Feb 2021 and Jan 2022 weren't that long ago

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50 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Feb 2021 and Jan 2022 weren't that long ago

True our one month winter months those years. I'm just extra salty this year because I bought brand new ski equipment for the first time in over a decade. Ski areas did the best they could but it wasn't the greatest. But a bad day of skiing beats a good day of working any day. 

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We really need the rain, but not a lot of hope for this week. The activity this week looks very isolated (mainly tuesday, thursday and friday). Hoping to get hit by a downpour, but it's only a slight chance. 

As SACRUS said, maybe we'll finally get into better rain potential early next week. A week away though so obviously too early to be confident about it. 

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3 hours ago, gravitylover said:

I'm resisting flipping the switch at night but it might be necessary. 

It was 54 in my living room this morning. That's enough to make a body achy.

 

Here comes the smoke again :(

Wow, my house only drops about 2-3 degrees overnight from 70 to 67 with the cool morning lows.  Kids sleep well when it occurs, as do I.  54 is a little extreme, that would call for heat & insulation check on the house, haha.

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