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NYC/PHL Dec 26-27 Potential - Part 6


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i love you all, merry christmas.

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Lol same to you. What is the time frame for this thing. What time on Sunday would this begin and when would the crazy rates per hour start from ACY-NYC? Estimation is fine as no one can know exactly obviously. I am just not able to compute/translate the model time stamps at this hour right now, lol.

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new discussion from HPC, basically not saying anything

THERE WILL BE TWO MAIN WEATHER STORIES TO DISCUSS FOR THIS

WEEKEND. THE FIRST WILL BE ANOTHER PACIFIC FRONT MOVING ASHORE ON

CHRISTMAS DAY...AND MOVING INLAND INTO THE INTER-MOUNTAIN WEST BY

SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BE STEERED BY A DEEP AND BROAD AREA OF

LOW PRESSURE OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA...WITH AN UPPER LEVEL IMPULSE

PROPELLING THE FRONT EASTWARD. PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN

WITH HIGHER SNOW LEVELS ARE EXPECTED AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND THEN

SCATTERED SHOWERS AND LOWER SNOW LEVELS AFTER THE FRONT PASSES.

OVER THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE COUNTRY...A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS

FORECAST TO DEVELOP OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO ON CHRISTMAS

DAY...AND THEN MOVE IN A GENERAL NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION ON SUNDAY

TO A LOCATION OFFSHORE FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST. THIS

SCENARIO WOULD LEAD TO A STEADY RAIN OVER THE DEEP SOUTH WITH A

FEW THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE COASTAL WATERS...AND PERIODS OF SNOW

OVER THE TENNESSEE RIVER VALLEY AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS. AS THE

LOW INTENSIFIES OFFSHORE FROM THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST...SNOW IS

LIKELY FOR COASTAL AREAS OF VIRGINIA AND INTO THE NORTHEAST U.S.

FOR SUNDAY AND INTO MONDAY. THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY IN

THE EVENTUAL TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM...AND LATER FORECASTS MAY

CHANGE.

ELSEWHERE...THE WEATHER PATTERN IS EXPECTED TO BE MORE TRANQUIL

WITH SUNNY TO PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES OVER THE CENTRAL U.S.

COMPLIMENTS OF A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE. A FEW LAKE EFFECT

SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE POSSIBLE DOWNWIND OF THE GREAT LAKES...ALONG

WITH A FEW FLURRIES OR SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE OHIO VALLEY AND INTO

THE MID-ATLANTIC PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COASTAL STORM.

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What does everyone think the chances are of Mt. Holly issuing watches with its 4 AM update? Probably pretty high, right?

We're still a good 36 hours away from the snow starting, and typically watches go out 36 hours in advance of the forecast accumulation, so I would say midday-afternoon. Then again with the big travel weekend they may pull the trigger earlier

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You don't want a triple phase, believe me, analysis has been done to show its very very difficult for a triple phaser to not track inland or at the very least along the coast in most scenarios.

But what about when we have a trough crashing on the west coast and a ridge pushing well east of the perfect spot tmrw?? Hmmmm.

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We're still a good 36 hours away from the snow starting, and typically watches go out 36 hours in advance of the forecast accumulation, so I would say midday-afternoon. Then again with the big travel weekend they may pull the trigger earlier

So it is fair to say the snow begins in the early afternoon from ACY northward or perhaps earlier?

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Watching that 24-hour WV loop is ridiculous. I want and need to go to bed but I can't get myself to do it. =(

Merry Christmas all now that it is actually the day. If this storm can produce it will be my favorite present by far, and no one has to spend any money! Except maybe township and city snow removal, but those have been budgeted in, so really that money is already spent.

Good luck to all in the next 36 hours as we nowcast and nail this thing down. It has been one of the hardest storms to track thus far in my short meteorological "career."

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You don't want a triple phase, believe me, analysis has been done to show its very very difficult for a triple phaser to not track inland or at the very least along the coast in most scenarios.

I'm going to disagree with you on this...that is a fallacy. The last great triple phaser I remember MISSED us to the to east. It was February 2004 and crushed Nova Scotia.

Triple phasers can happen anywhere. The reason everyone on the east coast is "afraid" of them is becaus all they hear about is March 1993 and January 1978.

But they are exceptionally rare to begin with and there have been some that miss us too to the east like Feb 2004. Its just hard to get them perfect. That's what a triple phaser is...perfect solution....and often it misses us because a perfect solution is hard to come by esp when all three jets phase.

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put away the playboy magazines and concentrate on the models.

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I'm going to disagree with you on this...that is a fallacy. The last great triple phaser I remember MISSED us to the to east. It was February 2004 and crushed Nova Scotia.

Triple phasers can happen anywhere. The reason everyone on the east coast is "afraid" of them is becaus all they hear about is March 1993 and January 1978.

But they are exceptionally rare to begin with and there have been some that miss us too to the east like Feb 2004. Its just hard to get them perfect. That's what a triple phaser is...perfect solution....and often it misses us because a perfect solution is hard to come by esp when all three jets phase.

Didn't that hammer the Canadian Maritimes Will?

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If I'm reading the GFS right it looks like 8am ACY and 12pm NYC.

On Sunday? Holy crap. I am supposed to head back from ACY to Eastern Bergen on Sunday and I now have no clue what time I should leave and I also have to make sure I am in front of the TV for the Giants-Packers game by 4:15, lol. This is going to be insane.

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I'm going to disagree with you on this...that is a fallacy. The last great triple phaser I remember MISSED us to the to east. It was February 2004 and crushed Nova Scotia.

Triple phasers can happen anywhere. The reason everyone on the east coast is "afraid" of them is becaus all they hear about is March 1993 and January 1978.

But they are exceptionally rare to begin with and there have been some that miss us too to the east like Feb 2004. Its just hard to get them perfect. That's what a triple phaser is...perfect solution....and often it misses us because a perfect solution is hard to come by esp when all three jets phase.

Will, was 2/26 last year a triple phaser?

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the GFS may be the big winner when all this is said and done.

didnt it first start trending back as early as 12z thursday? when every other model was on an ocean cruise?

The GFS definitely trended west with its 18z run on Thursday; not sure about 12z. The Euro looks like it's going to be the big winner for the 4-7 day range while the GFS will be the big winner for the 2-3 day range.

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The GFS definitely trended west with its 18z run on Thursday; not sure about 12z. The Euro looks like it's going to be the big winner for the 4-7 day range while the GFS will be the big winner for the 2-3 day range.

I guess this is why we have 2344322 models lol.

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