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20 hours ago, weatherbo said:

Dense fog with a heavy marine layer, 43 degrees.  Hope Brian over in TH is enjoying it as much as I am.

Tue-Thur sun and 60's!  Will feel much appreciated.

Lol, better than 3' of snow. Yeah, typical weather around the big pond as things begin to warm. NE MN is full of swamp, too, so dense fog is common all over this region. Some thunder developed over the lake, and moved through last night with 0.1" of rain. Nice to see, and hear Spring. Temps looking good this week with a little "cooler by the lake" as usual. "Skeeters" will be robust this year, as well. They're usually not bad in town, thankfully, but flies are the pits. At least they're easier to kill until it's over 80F, then they get real speed. Skeeter buzzing your head at 0 dark 30, and trying to smack that SOB (seeing stars sometimes when you miss LOL) is a real pain.

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7 hours ago, Powerball said:

As already mentioned, no one said the first half of May would be cold. Larry Cosgrove was the closest, and even he predicted that the pattern would break by 5/9.

That said, the first week of May has certainly been cold relative to average, which was expected by most.

wouldn't call a +1.6 departure cold relative to average, but that's me.

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5 minutes ago, Natester said:

This was taken yesterday from my front porch well after the initial storms had passed.

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wFmdESTjCeNeLPsS9

Nice!

Finished with 1.67" here, a hearty soaking.  Just south of here they got 3-4".  

Temp only made it to 63 here today with spits of drizzle under a heavy overcast.  29 degrees cooler than yesterday.

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6 hours ago, Brian D said:

Prelim data in for April. Slightly cooler than avg. The last 11 yrs (since 2013) have had 8 yrs of avg/well below avg temps. Charts shown 5/10 yr trends respectively.

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Interesting. Here is what I have for Cleveland, Buffalo and Detroit, with the expanded data sets I have been creating.

Cleveland (1855-2023)

1855-1870: Hyde, Smithsonian Institution [7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1871-2023: official thread [downtown until 1940, then at CLE airport]

Top Twenty Warmest

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Top Twenty Coldest

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Buffalo (1831-1832, 1841-1844, 1854, 1858-present)

Early records at Buffalo Barracks - Signal Service (7 a, 2p, 9p mean, and later average of sunrise & 3 pm)

1858-1870: uncertain, presumably Smithsonian Institution - from early Monthly Weather Review, climatology of Buffalo

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown until around 1940, then at airport]

Top 20 Warmest

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Top 20 Coldest

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Lake Erie Water Temperature, at Buffalo water intake crib (1927-present)

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Detroit (1836-1846, 1849-1851, 1871-present)

First few years at Fort Dearbornville, then at Detroit Barracks [7 a, 2 p, 9p average, until 1840s, then mean of sunrise and 3 pm]

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown through 1933, at City Airport until 1966, then Metro Wayne airport]

Top 20 Warmest

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Top 20 Coldest

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32 minutes ago, weatherbo said:

35 for the overnight low with another beautiful day on tap in the mid-60's for highs.  Snow down to patches except in the swamps where it's still a foot.

Finally feels like Spring is really here.  Summer will fly and the snow will be back before ya know it.

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damn that melted fast. 

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7 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said:

damn that melted fast. 

Really? I thought it took forever. 
interesting fact tho: during the storm the temp hovered around 32 at night, 33 during the day. As soon as the snow ended, temp quickly rose to 35 and it has not been back below freezing since. It really was winters last gasp. 
 

already 63 with very light winds. Feels like a lake breeze will develop. 

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4 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Interesting. Here is what I have for Cleveland, Buffalo and Detroit, with the expanded data sets I have been creating.

Cleveland (1855-2023)

1855-1870: Hyde, Smithsonian Institution [7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1871-2023: official thread [downtown until 1940, then at CLE airport]

Top Twenty Warmest

image.png.703776a4093e6b56ff6f855879f9f236.png

Top Twenty Coldest

image.png.79d55c55dfdf2fe17acc8f9d24bb4906.png

 

image.thumb.png.0c23e1fcf695845a25452dd1ae78d422.png

Buffalo (1831-1832, 1841-1844, 1854, 1858-present)

Early records at Buffalo Barracks - Signal Service (7 a, 2p, 9p mean, and later average of sunrise & 3 pm)

1858-1870: uncertain, presumably Smithsonian Institution - from early Monthly Weather Review, climatology of Buffalo

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown until around 1940, then at airport]

Top 20 Warmest

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Top 20 Coldest

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image.png.3a3dd3a82cf3e06c0033b9b8a9692185.png

Lake Erie Water Temperature, at Buffalo water intake crib (1927-present)

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Detroit (1836-1846, 1849-1851, 1871-present)

First few years at Fort Dearbornville, then at Detroit Barracks [7 a, 2 p, 9p average, until 1840s, then mean of sunrise and 3 pm]

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown through 1933, at City Airport until 1966, then Metro Wayne airport]

Top 20 Warmest

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Top 20 Coldest

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All decadal averages ranked from highest to lowest:

Buffalo [Normal: 45.6F]

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Buffalo Crib Water Temperature

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Cleveland [Normal: 50.4F]

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Detroit [Normal: 48.9F]

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4 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Interesting. Here is what I have for Cleveland, Buffalo and Detroit, with the expanded data sets I have been creating.

Cleveland (1855-2023)

1855-1870: Hyde, Smithsonian Institution [7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1871-2023: official thread [downtown until 1940, then at CLE airport]

Top Twenty Warmest

image.png.703776a4093e6b56ff6f855879f9f236.png

Top Twenty Coldest

image.png.79d55c55dfdf2fe17acc8f9d24bb4906.png

 

image.thumb.png.0c23e1fcf695845a25452dd1ae78d422.png

Buffalo (1831-1832, 1841-1844, 1854, 1858-present)

Early records at Buffalo Barracks - Signal Service (7 a, 2p, 9p mean, and later average of sunrise & 3 pm)

1858-1870: uncertain, presumably Smithsonian Institution - from early Monthly Weather Review, climatology of Buffalo

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown until around 1940, then at airport]

Top 20 Warmest

image.png.838359395ab678958980f14f7ed8abf9.png

Top 20 Coldest

image.png.51fb5cc48450e7e9923e91becf8e9f2c.png

image.png.3a3dd3a82cf3e06c0033b9b8a9692185.png

Lake Erie Water Temperature, at Buffalo water intake crib (1927-present)

image.png.bc951f018b36000ee67d8ab12440e35a.png

Detroit (1836-1846, 1849-1851, 1871-present)

First few years at Fort Dearbornville, then at Detroit Barracks [7 a, 2 p, 9p average, until 1840s, then mean of sunrise and 3 pm]

1871-1873: Weather Bureau, but unofficial [average of 7a, 2p, 9p mean]

1874-present: official threaded record [downtown through 1933, at City Airport until 1966, then Metro Wayne airport]

Top 20 Warmest

image.png.4539fa928001960466e081b8d8107f48.png

Top 20 Coldest

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Because your listing cities on the eastern edge of my chart range, thought I'd put this one up. Those charts are closer to the eastern US profile, and what I have is much closer to those for April.

NE-Mid Atl April anom chrt.gif

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5 hours ago, weatherbo said:

35 for the overnight low with another beautiful day on tap in the mid-60's for highs.  Snow down to patches except in the swamps where it's still a foot.

Finally feels like Spring is really here.  Summer will fly and the snow will be back before ya know it.

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Wow! Shingles on the roof and asphalt on the driveway. Who Knew?!?!

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On 5/8/2023 at 1:34 AM, cyclone77 said:

Man this site is a morgue tonight lol.

High quality evening to be sure.  Have had thunder pretty much continuous for the past 7 hours, with at least another few to go.  The light show has been top notch several times throughout the evening.  

Up to 0.69" for the evening as brief downpours have slowly added up.  

Quite quiet

 

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