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7 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said:

We just had a heavy rain shower with either small hail or graupel.  No thunder or wind.  Would today's "ice pellets" be considered as hail?  It's 48F but has been snowing today above 3750 in the Whites

That was hail given the thermal profile.

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3 hours ago, dryslot said:

ANDROSCOGGIN RIVER NEAR AUBURN - USGS 01059000

May 2, 2023, 5 a.m.

56,600 CFS Streamflow

+40,600 CFS (+254%) Today
Flooded Gage Height: 16 ft 393% of Normal

Friday, Apr 28, 08:15● Streamflow: 8 950.00cfs● Gage Height: 5.51ft                                      Discharge was last observed at 56,600 cfs, and a gage stage of 16 ft; Including the 254% increase since yesterday, the 10-day streamflow average is 15,312 cfs.

The Kennebec watershed must've gotten the greater amount of rain, as it peaked at 133,000 cfs.  IIRC, in 1987 the Androscoggin's peak was near 70% of that at the Kennebec, rather than less than half.

People have commented on the debris from up river that is going over the falls, They've seen Tents, Tires, Ice Shacks and numerous trees, Some one i know had a vid of a tree that was 4' in circumference or so at the base that went over the falls and he said it sounded like thunder when it hit the bottom.

At the Gage Farm (the big silo) along the Sandy in New Sharon, the last of the shoreline pines disappeared yesterday.  Years ago, there were three big pines, about 2' diameter and 90-100' tall, on an outside bend - that's where rivers eat at the banks.  On Sunday the final survivor was leaning at 45° and by 2 PM yesterday it was gone.  Whether it snagged along the riverbank or is piled up against the dam in Skowhegan, I have no idea.

Since the NNE cold season thread is probably dead, I'll put our April numbers here:

Avg temp:   42.7    +2.3
Avg max:     53.7    +1.7    Highest, 78 on the 14th
Avg min:      31.6    +2.9    Lowest, 17 on the 3rd and 9th

Precip:   3.76"   -0.35"   Wettest day, 30th with 1.26".  1.20" of that was part of the 4/30-5/1 4.45" deluge.

Snow:   1.5", all on 4/1    -3.3"
Pack:  119 SDDs, 89% of avg but more than twice the median.  Total SDDs (assuming none this month :lol:) came to 2,059, which is 116% of avg.  When the last 4" went to "T" on 4/12, that ended 116 consecutive days with 1"+.  Avg is 117.  Nov had 14 more 1"+ days and the 130-day total is 8 days AN.

Again, a very strange winter - mildest DJFM of 25 years here and a 4-month departure of 4.8°, but snowfall a foot above avg.


 

 

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2 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

We just had a heavy rain shower with either small hail or graupel.  No thunder or wind.  Would today's "ice pellets" be considered as hail?  It's 48F but has been snowing today above 3750 in the Whites

Had a few hail showers here as well. Raw day, low/mid 40's. It's snowing up above about 3500'

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2 hours ago, tamarack said:

The Kennebec watershed must've gotten the greater amount of rain, as it peaked at 133,000 cfs.  IIRC, in 1987 the Androscoggin's peak was near 70% of that at the Kennebec, rather than less than half.

People have commented on the debris from up river that is going over the falls, They've seen Tents, Tires, Ice Shacks and numerous trees, Some one i know had a vid of a tree that was 4' in circumference or so at the base that went over the falls and he said it sounded like thunder when it hit the bottom.

At the Gage Farm (the big silo) along the Sandy in New Sharon, the last of the shoreline pines disappeared yesterday.  Years ago, there were three big pines, about 2' diameter and 90-100' tall, on an outside bend - that's where rivers eat at the banks.  On Sunday the final survivor was leaning at 45° and by 2 PM yesterday it was gone.  Whether it snagged along the riverbank or is piled up against the dam in Skowhegan, I have no idea.

Since the NNE cold season thread is probably dead, I'll put our April numbers here:

Avg temp:   42.7    +2.3
Avg max:     53.7    +1.7    Highest, 78 on the 14th
Avg min:      31.6    +2.9    Lowest, 17 on the 3rd and 9th

Precip:   3.76"   -0.35"   Wettest day, 30th with 1.26".  1.20" of that was part of the 4/30-5/1 4.45" deluge.

Snow:   1.5", all on 4/1    -3.3"
Pack:  119 SDDs, 89% of avg but more than twice the median.  Total SDDs (assuming none this month :lol:) came to 2,059, which is 116% of avg.  When the last 4" went to "T" on 4/12, that ended 116 consecutive days with 1"+.  Avg is 117.  Nov had 14 more 1"+ days and the 130-day total is 8 days AN.

Again, a very strange winter - mildest DJFM of 25 years here and a 4-month departure of 4.8°, but snowfall a foot above avg, Seeing i wasn't around then looks like it crested well over thy knickers that year


 

 

This one for the Andros this year is not even in the top 10 but shows the magnitude of how devastating 1987 was when it was second all time to 1936's devastation being 13' is flood stage.

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10 hours ago, tunafish said:

Neat

 

And with that, we've brought you the severe weather season in New England ...  Please join us again next year at this time, when we'll behold ... the skull knock riveting debate over the difference between pea -sized hail and grapple

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Weekend still looks dandy ... In fact, the Euro's lowered typical cloud height RH levels even further.  Both it and the GFS depicted unilateral flow from 925 to 300 mb levels on a NW trajectory, bumping over the terrain and down-sloped throughout all areas, with 925 mb between +10 and 12C. 

2-meter's would likely make 20 to 23C under that provided the sun works out.  As is in the Euro, borderline but would likely be 80% sun with the down slope drying. So in every day terms ... 72 to 74.  Winds are very light, too.

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3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Weekend still looks dandy ... In fact, the Euro's lowered typical cloud height RH levels even further.  Both it and the GFS depicted unilateral flow from 925 to 300 mb levels on a NW trajectory, bumping over the terrain and down-sloped throughout all areas, with 925 mb between +10 and 12C. 

2-meter's would likely make 20 to 23C under that provided the sun works out.  As is in the Euro, borderline but would likely be 80% with the down slope drying. So in every day terms ... 72 to 74.  Winds are very light, too.

Yeah finally a weekend that’s nice.

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1 minute ago, dryslot said:

Going to need some good weather after this onslaught the last several days, Make it stop.

Imagine it 44 F by day … 40 by night, with winds gusting to 48 mph in driving rain that mixes with sleet over interior elevations, lasting for two days. When exits … the temp doesn’t change.  Drizzle under deep murk persists … three days later. The Nor’easter reduxes, undistinguished … followed by a nearly identical total cycle of reprieve to redux event. 

Unrelenting … for three weeks. No exceptions 

That was three weeks in May, 2005. 

Compared to that … we just “suffered” a relative utopia 

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17 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Going to need some good weather after this onslaught the last several days, Make it stop.

 

9 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Still raining.  Make it stop.

Beautiful sunny spring morning down here. 

After an impressively cool low of 36 already up to 53.

Sorry not sorry.

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13 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Imagine it 44 F by day … 40 by night, with winds gusting to 48 mph in driving rain that mixes with sleet over interior elevations, lasting for two days. When exits … the temp doesn’t change.  Drizzle under deep murk persists … three days later. The Nor’easter reduxes, undistinguished … followed by a nearly identical total cycle of reprieve to redux event. 

Unrelenting … for three weeks. No exceptions 

That was three weeks in May, 2005. 

Compared to that … we just “suffered” a relative utopia 

The people up here that were giddy back this winter when winter didn't show up until mid Jan or so are not so giddy now and as i told them then, Be careful what you wish for as it will end up being a late season and a crappy spring outside of that one good week last month.

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22 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Still raining.  Make it stop.

If I were a curious god …

Just for shits and giggles, I’d expose the entire region inside WI-NC-E QUE to the power of 10 suns …

… sit back with popcorn and a coke and watch this planetary scaled turd of cyclonic stench, which clearly has developed its own deviant sentience at this point  ( think tied up in shack by serial rapist …) try and survive against a yato yato yato -scaled thermal deluge

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