Mount Joy Snowman Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Got to love these 40-degree diurnal range days. #DryAir Feeling marginally better about the chance for some storms later in the day on Saturday. Then hopefully some more opportunities present themselves next week. Still very spotty in the aggregate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 13 hours ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Safe Harbor regulates the elevation of Lake Clarke at a pretty consistent 227’ so shouldn't be any issues down this way. For now at least. But yes I can imagine it’s getting rough up that way. We’re below a foot up here. A few places I’m running in about a foot of water. We have a dam,up above where I run that gives us a summer pool of water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: I sent it by carrier pigeon. Keep waiting. Low of 44 here. And a few miles NW of you, my low this morning was 52. (forecast low was 42) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: And a few miles NW of you, my low this morning was 52. (forecast low was 42) MU got down to 45 so a quick cut off to that Easterly push of cool air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The low in Tamaqua this morning was 42. That's the normal December/January low out here in Phoenix. Ugh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 First off, I'd like to thank each of you who sent well wishes to me for our trip. It was so much appreciated and I consider many of you my extended met family. Second, I'd like to thank all of you who put up with months of my drivel of excitement over going to Mammoth Lakes. Yes, I'm a giant kid in a 57 year old body. It has been a dream of mine to go there for at least 10 years, and my excitement got the best of me. I'm sorry for my thread cluttering over the past several months. The trip itself: Traveling by train was amazing. There are a few caveats to that - I am a train buff. I love trains. And I don't mind the "nuances" of train travel. (delays, cramped quarters, hit or miss food offerings, etc.) My wife and I are not picky, we don't typically get excited when something goes wrong, when traveling we roll with what is going on. That's important when considering Amtrak. If you want seamless, guaranteed on-time experiences, look elsewhere. We had a roomette booked for 95% of our trip. It suited us just fine. We had room to sit and sleep in our private "cabin" and not much more than that. We spent a lot of time during the day enjoying the lounge car where we were able to stretch out more and relax. The entire experience was amazing because we knew exactly what we were getting in to. And we loved it. @Jns2183 - if you have a dream of taking a similar experience, do it! So long as you do your homework and understand the quirks of long-distance train travel, you'll have an amazing experience! The United States of America - my dear wife took exactly 3,341 pictures and 143 videos during our odyssey. It will take us months to work through it all. I shared a few peeks into our trip, perhaps in a few months I'll be able to share a separate thread with a picture/video montage. So many incredible sites - if we had one regret (and it really isn't a regret, it was a "it is what it is" kind of thing) was we might have wanted to wait a few more weeks before traveling. We began booking 2 years ago, and at that time we could not foresee the avalanche of snow out west. Many of the places that we wanted to see we could not because of road closures due to snow. The thing is...I wanted to go early enough to SEE snow but was hoping it would be confined to the higher peaks so that travel was pretty much open. Obviously, that was not the case in the far west. Over the last couple of months leading into our trip it became pretty obvious what was happening so again...expectations were adjusted. We traveled through parts of the following states: PA, Maryland, DC, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Montana, Nevada, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Missouri. Keep in mind that some of those states, we disembarked our train, rented a car to visit certain areas, then got a later train to continue our trip. Our favorite state as far as beauty? Utah. Breathtaking. Stunning. Diverse. Utah was amazing. Most of the other states were as well in their own ways. Mammoth Lakes, California: It is an incredible place to visit. Key word in that sentence is "visit". LOL. It is NOT this guy's retirement community. Single homes often are in the 2-4 million range. Condos can be snagged for as "little" as about $750,000. It is one of California's ultimate playgrounds. There is so much more than snow and skiing in Mammoth - miles hiking and biking trails, fishing, camping - it is an outdoors mecca. And to live in the midst of it will cost more than this guy's salary and savings can muster. It is a true tourist town - mostly empty during the week, packed uncomfortably full on weekends. My wife and I tend to be very casual in nature and there were times where we felt almost "second class" there...some of the people we were around had a lot of money and weren't afraid to let others know it. Not our vibe at all. Minus that, the town is gorgeous. The mountains are majestic. When we arrived, there was about 8' of snow on the ground at our resort. Obviously, that was the most snow I've ever seen. I was hoping to see snow outside of town on the mountain but obviously was treated with a little more coverage. Even today, there is still about 15' up higher on the ski area. They will easily make it through July- you can buy lift tickets online through 7/31 currently. Funny thing, the lifts now stop running at 1pm each day. It's warm enough that the snow now gets so sticky that they shut down during peak heating. Interesting. It was truly a trip of a lifetime. Would i do something like that again? No. We do have other dreams that we're chasing...geez, there are so many incredible things out there to see. We were in Alaska 10 years ago and we're starting to get an itch to go back. We also enjoy warm locales and St. John in the US Virgin Islands is calling us back as well. The past few days have felt odd - we literally were planning this trip for more than 5 years. We enjoyed every single moment of each day. And now that it's over? It feels...yeah, odd. Sort of empty. But also really glad to be home. We had the kids over on Monday and that was awesome. Now - can we please get some freaking rain around here? Oh yeah, one more thing...currently sitting at 14 mows in Maytown. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Thanks for sharing your journey with us Mike. Sounds like an incredible time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 Today marks the 38th anniversary of the great PA Tornado outbreak - 19, yes 19 confirmed tornados on 5/31/1985. I remember my old NOAA weather radio going off over and over and over again during the evening hours as the event unfolded. Worst of it was across northern, and especially NW PA. https://www.weather.gov/ctp/TornadoOutbreak_May311985 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 A not too shabby 71 Nooner temp. MDT 73. GFS and NAM now starts the rain parade on Friday for the Eastern LSV. A prelude to a very unsettled weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: A not too shabby 71 Nooner temp. MDT 73. 74 in Maytown, 73 here at the office on my first day back at work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Back door ULL goodness. The GFS (just a prog, not my forecast) squashes early summer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 74 @ work in the capital city 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Back door ULL goodness. The GFS (just a prog, not my forecast) squashes early summer. WPC's 7 day QPF looks a bit more promising than their outlook that @Jns2183 posted yesterday: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 9:09 PM, Bubbler86 said: Heree is why USGS has not pulled many triggers. Groundwater in the green, 90 day precip yellow and surface water in the green (black line is current location on the graph). The April deluge in mdt causing a bubble of results that appear ok for some longer term stats but several inches in quick order does little for the yards and vegetation which do not care about 90 day stats. NOAA predicted the drought in SE Pennsylvania would end this month, so they are going to make sure that it ends even if it was the driest month on record. U.S. climate outlook for May 2023 | NOAA Climate.gov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: WPC's 7 day QPF looks a bit more promising than their outlook that @Jns2183 posted yesterday: The GFS is a true delight for people that want some rain and well BN temps. June would quickly be in a double-digit temp deficit despite Friday. The ULL stays for over a week. 40's for lows every day next work week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, TheClimateChanger said: NOAA predicted the drought in SE Pennsylvania would end this month, so they are going to make sure that it ends even if it was the driest month on record. U.S. climate outlook for May 2023 | NOAA Climate.gov LOL, I was wondering a bit about why they did not expand the map last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 PAweather 540 line in PA on June 7th. LOL. Fun stuff for 12Z. This is analogous to it being in PA on Aug 23rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Itstrainingtime said: And a few miles NW of you, my low this morning was 52. (forecast low was 42) That is shocking but as Bubbler mentioned there has been quite the east/west component to the cool air lately. I saw a lot of places in Chester County yesterday topped out in the low 70s, whereas I hit 83. I did notice there was the normal elevation-dependent nature with the inversion last night, with the top of the ridge being a good ten degrees warmer than some of the low-lying rural spots. Obviously that doesn't factor in with you and I being at similar elevations, but yeah that east/west component must have really been something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm ok with no 90's in June. But come July damnit, i want them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 After our weekend "deluge" of 1/2-1", the GFS is a total shutout into the second 1/8th of summer. CMC is also a wet weekend then small chances of showers as vorts fly by next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, sauss06 said: I'm ok with no 90's in June. But come July damnit, i want them You might get a 90 on June 2nd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: You might get a 90 on June 1st & June 2nd! I was just going on record stating i'm ok holding off until July. Just in case @candersonwas thinking of putting a hit out on me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, sauss06 said: I was just going on record stating i'm ok holding off until July. Just in case @candersonwas thinking of putting a hit out on me. LOL, Canderson is stewing over the 12Z GFS right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Today marks the 38th anniversary of the great PA Tornado outbreak - 19, yes 19 confirmed tornados on 5/31/1985. I remember my old NOAA weather radio going off over and over and over again during the evening hours as the event unfolded. Worst of it was across northern, and especially NW PA. https://www.weather.gov/ctp/TornadoOutbreak_May311985I was 2 1/2 then and living north of Pittsburgh. Apparently there are pictures somewhere of like 4 families, including mine in basement waiting it out. What's amazing besides the quantity was that almost all were f3 and above, and the average track length is off the charts compared to normal. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Meteogram out for KMDT using American model outputs of 6z/12z First is precipitationSecond is Temperature Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Sunday looks freezing and rain or no rain the GFS doesn't want to get above 75 next week with mornings around 50. Morning swim practice will be a blast. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: Meteogram out for KMDT using American model outputs of 6z/12z First is precipitation Second is Temperature Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Desert nooners here, and it's only 87 degrees. With the humidity at 14% and a nice breeze, it's super pleasant sitting out on the back patio. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Looks like the dry pattern will persist for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Looks like the dry pattern will persist for awhile. Truthfully, I would take that 1/2-1" and smile and hope the LR is off. I did not benefit from April as much as the Eastern LSV so it has been a bad 30 days here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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