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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23


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“OK...SERIOUSLY!!! I just saw the car-sized drone fly over my house in White Plains, NY. I am close to the corner of Davis Avenue and Prospect Street. It had red flashing lights, and was making a pretty loud humming sound.”

Little does he know, there’s a drone base aka Westchester County Airport, nearby.

 

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30 minutes ago, Eduardo said:

 

 

 

Thanks so much everyone!  We’ve been up there a few times and it’s become our wintertime happy place.  As weenied out as I was (it snowed almost the entire time we were there), I don’t think city folk like us could ever make the move—though I definitely understand the appeal.

Beautiful, picturesque town with some incredibly lovely people and excellent though.  Can’t recommend it highly enough!

Congratulations! -11 there last night, just a little(way) too nippy for me. If it's so cold out you can't enjoy the snow that's another bummer. Closest I've ever been to there is Lake George. 

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1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

Post on a neighborhood forum:

“OK...SERIOUSLY!!! I just saw the car-sized drone fly over my house in White Plains, NY. I am close to the corner of Davis Avenue and Prospect Street. It had red flashing lights, and was making a pretty loud humming sound.”

Little does he know, there’s a drone base aka Westchester County Airport, nearby.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

 

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Almost certainly, it was a turboprop and the red lights were beacon lights. Westchester County Airport has a lot of turboprop air traffic (mostly corporate planes).

To be sure, there are some drones being flown. One story:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/15/us/drone-boston-airport-arrest/index.html

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12 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Congratulations! -11 there last night, just a little(way) too nippy for me. If it's so cold out you can't enjoy the snow that's another bummer. Closest I've ever been to there is Lake George. 

Thank you so much, fellow Bill Evans board OG :).

No doubt the coldest place I’ve ever been, but I absolutely love it.  Also, just another reason to get cozy while inside.  I would def recommend driving an extra hour north from Lake George to see it!

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Thank you so much, fellow Bill Evans board OG .
No doubt the coldest place I’ve ever been, but I absolutely love it.  Also, just another reason to get cozy while inside.  I would def recommend driving an extra hour north from Lake George to see it!

Oh man, Bill Evans board! That was great. I loved when he called the February 2003 storm.


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On 12/8/2024 at 5:04 PM, donsutherland1 said:

The last 7-10 days of December has remained a question mark. The 12/7 ECMWF weeklies were close to normal in the eastern half of the CONUS/Canada and warm in the western half. The  CFSv2 was warmer than normal across almost all of North America.

Nevertheless, some accounts on Social Media were spiking the proverbial football this afternoon for a much colder pattern even before anything had actually verified. Meanwhile, less than an hour after the festivities celebrating a dramatic turn toward a colder pattern for the Christmas/Hanukkah holiday had gotten underway, the ECMWF weeklies attempted to take away the punch bowl.

Let's have a look:

ECMWF 12/7 Run for 12/23-30:

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ECMWF 12/8 Run for 12/23-30:

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And how about for the following week?

ECMWF 12/7 Run for 12/30-1/6:

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ECMWF 12/8 Run for 12/30-1/6:

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In reality, nothing much has changed in the larger forecasting scheme since the 0z runs. Some of the guidance has shifted colder, but the ECMWF weeklies went in the opposite direction. All of that could be noise prior to the models ultimately coming into agreement. All said, there's no major reason to move away from the idea that it could turn colder during the closing days of the month, while respecting that there is uncertainty concerning the timing of any shift should it occur.

IMO, until there is sustained model commitment in one direction or the other, one should avoid prematurely verifying forecasts that may yet fail to verify. It's better to allow the passage of some time to get things right than to pre-verify an outcome that might never actually occur.

 

Don 12/16/24 I stopped by my sister’s house in Bay Ridge Brooklyn. I paused as I stared at the Camilla I planted 60 years ago. It was blooming. The house is old porch style detached on a 40 by 100 plot with towering sycamores on the curb. Granted it’s a Southern exposure but still ….. Stay well, as always.

 

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24 minutes ago, rclab said:

Don 12/16/24 I stopped by my sister’s house in Bay Ridge Brooklyn. I paused as I stared at the Camilla I planted 60 years ago. It was blooming. The house is old porch style detached on a 40 by 100 plot with towering sycamores on the curb. Granted it’s a Southern exposure but still ….. Stay well, as always.

 

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This is happening more and more frequently as winters continue to warm. The Arctic shot next weekend/early next week will probably bring an end to the blooms.

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3 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

This is happening more and more frequently as winters continue to warm. The Arctic shot next weekend/early next week will probably bring an end to the blooms.

 

3 hours ago, STORMANLI said:

rclab,

You may have a market to compete with Christmas contemporaries like Poinsettias.

The Christmas Camilla

Stay well

Don I see anomalous blooming with greater frequency. Apparently well defined blooming seasons are also becoming rare on the coastal plain. 

Thank you STORMANLI my sister will enjoy your suggestion.


Stay well, as always …

 

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12 hours ago, North and West said:

I think some people (including myself) said this last season, but people are really taking the withdrawal and reversion to the mean recently from all of those great snowy years hard.

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Yeah we are all feeling it, though at least we’ve had some cold this year rather than the persistent wintertime swampiness to which we’ve become accustomed these past few years.  I actually think we are near—if not slightly past—the worst of the famine though.  Although I generally am in the camp that, over the long term, the trend is toward lower average snowfall, I think we snow lovers have some better times ahead over the next few years—and maybe even some favorable periods this winter if things shake out the right way—as we hopefully finish up this “downward spike” in seasonal snowfall.

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Yeah we are all feeling it, though at least we’ve had some cold this year rather than the persistent wintertime swampiness to which we’ve become accustomed these past few years.  I actually think we are near—if not slightly past—the worst of the famine though.  Although I generally am in the camp that, over the long term, the trend is toward lower average snowfall, I think we snow lovers have some better times ahead over the next few years—and maybe even some favorable periods this winter if things shake out the right way—as we hopefully finish up this “downward spike” in seasonal snowfall.

Agreed


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