Brian5671 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, JetsPens87 said: 2 things here... First is an absolute LOL at him still refusing to give up on BN temps Second is...where is that for and how is March 2012 not first? I wonder how many clients he lost after this year's disaster...he missed temps 5-7 degrees....that's astounding. Worse he doubled down in early Feb when he should have thrown in the towel at that point... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I couldn’t care less about the sky conditions on Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I'm sure the NY Mets organization contracts a meteorological company. So what were they looking at yesterday? Sure, the rain was going to slacken off a bit after 8 PM last night, but the game was scheduled for 7:05 PM. Even if it stopped raining completely, there were going to be sporadic showers, after it rained all day. I understand that they are playing an unbalanced scheduled, where they won't be playig Detroit again this season, but you must consider fans that are driving from 2.5 hours away (albeit 35 miles). This isn't the first time this organization screwed the fans. By noon, they should have at least issued a statement that any fan with tickets not coming to last night's game will be refunded (regardless if the game is played or not). Instead, they held the ticket holders hostage, I guess to pay for their $30+ million dollar a year shortshop? Disgraceful. Do they refund the ridiculous parking fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Dark Star said: I'm sure the NY Mets organization contracts a meteorological company. So what were they looking at yesterday? Sure, the rain was going to slacken off a bit after 8 PM last night, but the game was scheduled for 7:05 PM. Even if it stopped raining completely, there were going to be sporadic showers, after it rained all day. I understand that they are playing an unbalanced scheduled, where they won't be playig Detroit again this season, but you must consider fans that are driving from 2.5 hours away (albeit 35 miles). This isn't the first time this organization screwed the fans. By noon, they should have at least issued a statement that any fan with tickets not coming to last night's game will be refunded (regardless if the game is played or not). Instead, they held the ticket holders hostage, I guess to pay for their $30+ million dollar a year shortshop? Disgraceful. Do they refund the ridiculous parking fees? Cohen had gone from a promising owner with some really strong plans to a greedy buffoon with zero strategy other than money grabbing in about 2 seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Dark Star said: I'm sure the NY Mets organization contracts a meteorological company. So what were they looking at yesterday? Sure, the rain was going to slacken off a bit after 8 PM last night, but the game was scheduled for 7:05 PM. Even if it stopped raining completely, there were going to be sporadic showers, after it rained all day. I understand that they are playing an unbalanced scheduled, where they won't be playig Detroit again this season, but you must consider fans that are driving from 2.5 hours away (albeit 35 miles). This isn't the first time this organization screwed the fans. By noon, they should have at least issued a statement that any fan with tickets not coming to last night's game will be refunded (regardless if the game is played or not). Instead, they held the ticket holders hostage, I guess to pay for their $30+ million dollar a year shortshop? Disgraceful. Do they refund the ridiculous parking fees? Shameful. Zero chance the game would be played even as late as 5-6pm if you looked at radar... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Shameful. Zero chance the game would be played even as late as 5-6pm if you looked at radar... Yeah they should have postponed before the game, but what I found ridiculous was they made people wait 2 hours and then called the game just as the rain was ending around 9pm. If you make people wait that long, then why call it just as you were getting into a dry window? The way the whole thing was handled was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yeah they should have postponed before the game, but what I found ridiculous was they made people wait 2 hours and then called the game just as the rain was ending around 9pm. If you make people wait that long, then why call it just as you were getting into a dry window? The way the whole thing was handled was a disgrace. Tonight's call should be a bit easier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Looks like CSU is all in for a very active hurricane season: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/3/2024 at 10:20 AM, JetsPens87 said: Cohen had gone from a promising owner with some really strong plans to a greedy buffoon with zero strategy other than money grabbing in about 2 seasons. He's a hedge funder right? His behavior is very predictable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/3/2024 at 12:56 PM, winterwx21 said: Yeah they should have postponed before the game, but what I found ridiculous was they made people wait 2 hours and then called the game just as the rain was ending around 9pm. If you make people wait that long, then why call it just as you were getting into a dry window? The way the whole thing was handled was a disgrace. MLB needs to make removable roofs mandatory for EVERY stadium. Rain outs and rain delays should be a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 39 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: He's a hedge funder right? His behavior is very predictable. Indeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 THERE WAS JUST AN EARTHQUAKE HERE, T WAS AN 4.8, MY SECOND EARTHQUAKE HERE, MY FIRST ONE WAS IN AUGUST 2011, THAT WAS BEFORE A HURRICANE HIT, THIS ONE BEFORE A SOLAR ECLIPSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5.5 magnitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Good morning everyone. Ref: the earthquake, I heard it more than felt it. A grinding loud sound, no shake or movement. Surprising the pups didn’t even bark. I pray everyone is well. As always ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 the other one was a gentle shaking where I heard sloshing of water, this one was more like someone grabbing you and shaking you hard, that one was fun, this one was scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Nothing like starting your day with a lovely intraplate mag 4.8 quake. Shook Hillside pretty good! Lots of ancient buried and inactive faults around the fall line from when we were stapled into Pangea. They can occasionally still groan and shift enough to produce quakes like this, though they aren’t super common. Pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, rclab said: Good morning everyone. Ref: the earthquake, I heard it more than felt it. A grinding loud sound, no shake or movement. Surprising the pups didn’t even bark. I pray everyone is well. As always ….. this was the most violent shaking I have ever felt and it lasted a long time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Just now, Volcanic Winter said: Nothing like starting your day with a lovely intraplate mag 4.8 quake. hell no this was a lot stronger than that I remember the 5.8 from August 2011, this was MUCH stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, MJO812 said: 5.5 magnitude 5.5 makes more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: hell no this was a lot stronger than that I remember the 5.8 from August 2011, this was MUCH stronger That quake was in Virginia. We were much more proximal to this quake. Ascertaining the exact epicenter, magnitude, and depth is somewhat inexact and gets refined when data is reviewed after the fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, Volcanic Winter said: That quake was in Virginia. We were much more proximal to this quake. Can we find a connection between these and heavy rainfalls that happened just prior? August 2011 was a very rainy month. We've been in a very rainy pattern now too. I remember reading scientific papers linking heavy rainfalls and earthquakes-- is it a possibility? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Can we find a connection between these and heavy rainfalls that happened just prior? August 2011 was a very rainy month. We've been in a very rainy pattern now too. I remember reading scientific papers linking heavy rainfalls and earthquakes-- is it a possibility? I’m not super well versed in all that, the majority of what I study about earthquakes are in relation to volcanoes. I do think that sounds plausible, an over abundance of ground water saturating those deep inactive faults and possibly lubricating or shifting the mass balance enough to slip a bit? Sure, sounds plausible but I can’t really comment further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 3/26/2024 at 3:27 PM, donsutherland1 said: In his A Winter Season, James Fisher wrote December in Edinburgh in the early 19th century: In midst of dark December's howling blast, out from his quarters in the frigid zone comes surly Winter, in his car of iron, drawn on by furious, foaming, snow-white steeds, escorted by his angry northern band; which raves, and roars, and rages all around despoiling Nature of her every charm; and now sits down to storm her empire all… Falling rapidly, drifting on heaps, are the flakes of now, while the boisterous wind, roaring furiously, disbranches the trees, and threatens to overturn every habitation of man. To heighten the terrific scene... what a flash of lightning, followed by a tremendously loud clap of thunder! A lot of that could have applied to December in New York City during its first 30 years of record (1869-1898). December is now increasingly taking on the character of late November. The changes have been so dramatic that January today (1995-2024) is almost identical to what December was like during New York City’s first 30 years of recordkeeping. Good post, Don. Even more striking when you look at the values observed by the U.S. Army Signal Corps at Fort Columbus [later known as Fort Jay] on Governor's Island, south of Manhattan, from 1821-1854. In that stretch of 34 Decembers, only 2 had a mean temperature in excess of the current normal (41.3, 1829; and 40.4F, 1852). One other year (1848) had a mean right on par with the current normal of 39.3F. While the proximity to water could lead to some cooling in the spring and summer, relative to Central Park, I would assume the proximity to water would lead this site to be warmer in the cold season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said: I’m not super well versed in all that, the majority of what I study about earthquakes are in relation to volcanoes. I do think that sounds plausible, an over abundance of ground water saturating those deep inactive faults and possibly lubricating or shifting the mass balance enough to slip a bit? Sure, sounds plausible but I can’t really comment further. I remember reading this happens around fracking sites because of wastewater injection =\ One of the many reasons fracking was banned in our state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Good post, Don. Even more striking when you look at the values observed by the U.S. Army Signal Corps at Fort Columbus [later known as Fort Jay] on Governor's Island, south of Manhattan, from 1821-1854. In that stretch of 34 Decembers, only 2 had a mean temperature in excess of the current normal (41.3, 1829; and 40.4F, 1852). One other year (1848) had a mean right on par with the current normal of 39.3F. While the proximity to water could lead to some cooling in the spring and summer, relative to Central Park, I would assume the proximity to water would lead this site to be warmer in the cold season. On average, I think we can surmise that the mid 19th century climate of New York would have been comparable to that of present-day Albany, about 135 miles to the north (according to Wikipedia). It's still slightly warmer than recent years at KALB, but the airport is at nearly 300' elevation, while the bulk of the city of Albany is only around 100' elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Good post, Don. Even more striking when you look at the values observed by the U.S. Army Signal Corps at Fort Columbus [later known as Fort Jay] on Governor's Island, south of Manhattan, from 1821-1854. In that stretch of 34 Decembers, only 2 had a mean temperature in excess of the current normal (41.3, 1829; and 40.4F, 1852). One other year (1848) had a mean right on par with the current normal of 39.3F. While the proximity to water could lead to some cooling in the spring and summer, relative to Central Park, I would assume the proximity to water would lead this site to be warmer in the cold season. That 47.6F in 1836 is very interesting. I've read in numerous sources of a "great refrigeration" that occurred from about 1835-1838 on par with that of 1816. There was reportedly 2" of snow in Guangzhou [Canton], China in February 1835, suggesting it very well could have been a global [or at least hemisphere-wide] phenomenon. Berkeley Earth blames it on Cosiguina, which erupted in January 1835, and says there was a global land average temperature drop of 0.75C. However, it doesn't seem strong enough to me for that degree of response. Cosigüina - Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Good post, Don. Even more striking when you look at the values observed by the U.S. Army Signal Corps at Fort Columbus [later known as Fort Jay] on Governor's Island, south of Manhattan, from 1821-1854. In that stretch of 34 Decembers, only 2 had a mean temperature in excess of the current normal (41.3, 1829; and 40.4F, 1852). One other year (1848) had a mean right on par with the current normal of 39.3F. While the proximity to water could lead to some cooling in the spring and summer, relative to Central Park, I would assume the proximity to water would lead this site to be warmer in the cold season. Great information. Yes, the water almost certainly moderated the overall figures. Now, what was unusual warmth is becoming the norm as the climate continues to warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: That 47.6F in 1836 is very interesting. I've read in numerous sources of a "great refrigeration" that occurred from about 1835-1838 on par with that of 1816. There was reportedly 2" of snow in Guangzhou [Canton], China in February 1835, suggesting it very well could have been a global [or at least hemisphere-wide] phenomenon. Berkeley Earth blames it on Cosiguina, which erupted in January 1835, and says there was a global land average temperature drop of 0.75C. However, it doesn't seem strong enough to me for that degree of response. Cosigüina - Wikipedia Interestingly, Volcano Osorno apparently erupted in Chile one day prior to the big Cosiguina eruption in Nicaragua. Charles Darwin also believed there was an eruption of Aconcagua, but that's an extinct paleovolcano. Perhaps there was a third eruption in Argentina? Or he just lost his bearings and actually witnessed the eruptions of Osorno and Cosiguina? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 46 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: this was the most violent shaking I have ever felt and it lasted a long time Good morning Liberty. I must be really old if I can’t even feel the ground shake. As always … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: 5.5 magnitude 4.8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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