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On the volcanic front, there’s a little known but large and infrequently active bimodal rhyolitic volcano in the East African Rift undergoing a notably large intrusion at the moment - Fentale. The unrest is reaching levels that definitely crosses into “concerning” territory and I believe there are already evacuations in place for locals. Based on the size and nature of the intrusion we’re likely looking at significant explosive event if an eruption were to occur (which of course is never a guarantee until it’s happening).  

This volcano has only one known eruption in the Holocene; an effusive event in 1810 on its flanks and part of the caldera floor. Hence its bimodal nature. However this volcano has a large caldera from major eruptions in the distant past, and data has suggested this current intrusion is likely to be rhyolite. At this system that would likely be its explosive tendencies kicking into gear. 

A long dormant rhyolitic (evolved, sticky, potentially highly explosive magma) volcano waking up in Africa (a place that has had intense volcanism throughout the recent geologic past, but lesser known and less studied today) is something to seriously pay attention to. 
 

https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/fantale/news/255487/Fantale-volcano-Ethiopia-earthquakes-ground-cracks-suggest-magma-intrusion-precursors-of-new-eruptio.html

https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=221190

East Africa has a large amount of exotic and majorly powerful volcanoes. There’s an argument that the world’s next flood basalt (monstrously enormous and millennia long mantle fed eruptions responsible for some of the worst climate excursions and extinctions in earth’s history, the last was the Colombia River Basalts 16mya) will transpire under the Virunga plateau containing Nyiragongo and Nyamulagira. And there’s quite a few massive calderas from ancient VEI 7 sized blasts including the famous Ngorongoro Crater. 

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Yes, it's the dryness, but it's also the constant cloudless skies. I could never, never live out west. I like brilliant blue skies and sunshine, but, day after day in a semi-desert presents no variety.  I also like clouds.  I like rain.  Too much of any of these begins to get to me.  Can we please have our varied weather and changeful skies back?  And some rain.

You can keep San Diego.

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10 minutes ago, Pellice said:

Yes, it's the dryness, but it's also the constant cloudless skies. I could never, never live out west. I like brilliant blue skies and sunshine, but, day after day in a semi-desert presents no variety.  I also like clouds.  I like rain.  Too much of any of these begins to get to me.  Can we please have our varied weather and changeful skies back?  And some rain.

You can keep San Diego.

I'm sure we'll have endless cloudy days in the 40s and 50s in November and December 

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19 hours ago, Pellice said:

Yes, it's the dryness, but it's also the constant cloudless skies. I could never, never live out west. I like brilliant blue skies and sunshine, but, day after day in a semi-desert presents no variety.  I also like clouds.  I like rain.  Too much of any of these begins to get to me.  Can we please have our varied weather and changeful skies back?  And some rain.

You can keep San Diego.

If it's not going to rain, why not sun and blue skies?  Really don't see a point in clouds unless it's mid summer for some cooling.  This time of year and during spring is perfect.

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16 hours ago, Cfa said:

I’ll keep San Diego right here. Best October ever.

One thing I find interesting about San Diego is it used to be freezing cold with fewer days above 70F than Fairbanks, Alaska sees these days. Yet now it's above 70F for nearly 9 straight months of the year. Some could argue that it's due to the thermometer being moved to the airport, but the airport is right on the waterfront. It looks like San Diego has been a major beneficiary of climate change.

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48 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

If it's not going to rain, why not sun and blue skies?  Really don't see a point in clouds unless it's mid summer for some cooling.  This time of year and during spring is perfect.

I think endless days of anything can get old after a while. Even snow and cold or sunny blue skies

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How much snow will fall in the NYC area?

Gregory predicts the city could receive around 20 inches of snow this winter, compared to the typical seasonal average of 28 inches. 

"We'll likely have above average temperatures this winter along with more snow than last year with somewhere near 18-23" but that is below the average snowfall for a winter in NYC," Gregory said

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11 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

How much snow will fall in the NYC area?

Gregory predicts the city could receive around 20 inches of snow this winter, compared to the typical seasonal average of 28 inches. 

"We'll likely have above average temperatures this winter along with more snow than last year with somewhere near 18-23" but that is below the average snowfall for a winter in NYC," Gregory said

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I will take that 

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Serious question for those who have veggies and haven’t had a freeze yet, with these low sun angles how much growing is happening?

 Depends on the crop.  Nothing will germinate now because of the sun angle, but fall and winter crops will continue to grow, though very slowly, throughout winter.  We are now at hardiness zone 7 here in central NJ, but it changes quickly to 6b and 6a as one moves farther north.  Here in NJ, spinach, upland cress, most lettuces, and crucifer greens will produce all winter, except in long temperature streaks in the teens and below, and can be harvested by taking outer leaves as they grow.  In NY, similar but with reduced variety.  And one crop, lambs quarters (goosefoot), a mild, sweet green, will grow much further north in much colder weather.

And a determined gardener can make things happen almost anywhere, with a lengthy sun exposure, heat retaining elements (like brick, or crop covers, or plastic enclosures), and protection, even an old sheet, during freezes 

 

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21 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

Serious question for those who have veggies and haven’t had a freeze yet, with these low sun angles how much growing is happening? 

The pole lima beans are amazing how strong they produce right up until first freeze. Right now I'm picking the most I've had all season. The tomatoes, peppers and eggplants are really fizzling out now, but the pole lima beans are still flowering with new pods coming on all the time. So I hope we avoid the freeze tomorrow night. It's going to be a close call with temps getting down near freezing here. It would be ashame to see it come to an end, especially considering the warm pattern coming with no more freeze threats for quite awhile after tomorrow night. 

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18 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 Does anyone here remember the ne.weather Usenet Newsgroup (was like a no-frills BB) from the late 90s through early 2000s? Did any of you post there? I did because this was just before Wright Wx BB and ne.weather was the only BB I was aware of at the time.

@bluewave

@donsutherland1

I started out in the mid-80s with the Alden Difax weather model printer at the college weather lab. The models were really primitive back then with only black and white and very low printed resolution. Plus they were often incorrect even the day before especially with snowstorms. 

Then in the 90s I didn’t get online until January 97. So I missed the whole 95-96 weather season online. I got a Pentium 150 with a 56k dial up. I quickly found Walt’s great AFDs out of Boston and tried to learn all the different terms he was using in his long range discussions. 
 

My first forum experience was back on Eastern during 2006 just reading the comments. Then I joined in 2007 and have been on the forums ever since. 

 

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1 hour ago, GaWx said:

 Does anyone here remember the ne.weather Usenet Newsgroup (was like a no-frills BB) from the late 90s through early 2000s? Did any of you post there? I did because this was just before Wright Wx BB and ne.weather was the only BB I was aware of at the time.

@bluewave

@donsutherland1

Guilty. I got on ne.weather in the late 90s. 

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2 hours ago, GaWx said:

 Does anyone here remember the ne.weather Usenet Newsgroup (was like a no-frills BB) from the late 90s through early 2000s? Did any of you post there? I did because this was just before Wright Wx BB and ne.weather was the only BB I was aware of at the time.

@bluewave

@donsutherland1

I posted there. That was the first group at which I posted.

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23 minutes ago, rgwp96 said:

How do I clear my attachments here. I went to post a photo and said I had limited storage left.  Have no clue how to fix it . Someone in ot said I have to clear my attachments 

1. Click upper right.

2. Click “account”.

3. Click “my attachments”.

4. Delete some of them, especially large ones.

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On 10/28/2024 at 2:03 PM, GaWx said:

 Does anyone here remember the ne.weather Usenet Newsgroup (was like a no-frills BB) from the late 90s through early 2000s? Did any of you post there? I did because this was just before Wright Wx BB and ne.weather was the only BB I was aware of at the time.

@bluewave

@donsutherland1

Yes, I remember it. But the late Joe Bartlo and the daily pest reports ruined it. Started out as a feud with “Jack” and then got crossposted to alt.kooks and other troll groups and really got out of hand. Those Usenet groups were around since at least the early 1990s.

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1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Yes, I remember it. But the late Joe Bartlo and the daily pest reports ruined it. Started out as a feud with “Jack” and then got crossposted to alt.kooks and other troll groups and really got out of hand. Those Usenet groups were around since at least the early 1990s.

 Joe Bartlo: holy cow! I remember that name from ne.weather very well! I don’t recall details but do remember he was often involved in intense discussions/debates. I didn’t think he was a pro-met. Is that correct? I don’t recall him going to WWBB. May Joe RIP.

 I don’t remember Jack at ne.weather. Did Jack later go to WWBB and Eastern? I feel like I remember a Jack at Eastern, but don’t know it was the same guy. If it is, I think he also may have sadly passed.

 Also, I remember a “Jerry” being a frequent New England poster. Was that Weathafella?

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39 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 Joe Bartlo: holy cow! I remember that name from ne.weather very well! I don’t recall details but do remember he was often involved in intense discussions/debates. I didn’t think he was a pro-met. Is that correct? I don’t recall him going to WWBB. May Joe RIP.

 I don’t remember Jack at ne.weather. Did Jack later go to WWBB and Eastern? I feel like I remember a Jack at Eastern, but don’t know it was the same guy. If it is, I think he also may have sadly passed.

 Also, I remember a “Jerry” being a frequent New England poster. Was that Weathafella?

Jerry was Weathafella on that board. DT was, as I remember, a frequent poster. JB was held in a much higher esteem then, even by DT. I remember, not sure on what board, a poster by the name of Ziggy was also a Bartlo nemesis. When new posters got out of hand the seasoned ones would call on DT for a weenie roast. It’s where I first heard the term Jeb walk. I would view the board on a dial up Web TV set up. That was a quarter century ago. Preserve your memories, they’re all that’s left you. ( thank you Paul Simon. )  As always ….

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