April 2023 General Discussion

[OrdIowPitMsp]

37 and light rain to close out April. 
 

Some frozen stuff falling away from the core of the metro. 

[weatherbo]

Been snowing since about 2 am.  WPC and models both indicate the possibility of up to 3 feet of snow right around here with 5+ inches of qpf.  

Heading to town for geni gas because I can see where this is headed.

 

 

[lakeeffectkid383]

15 minutes ago, weatherbo said:

Been snowing since about 2 am.  WPC and models both indicate the possibility of up to 3 feet of snow right around here with 5+ inches of qpf.  

Heading to town for geni gas because I can see where this is headed.

 

 

How much do you have down so far ? 

[weatherbo]

Nam NOT backing down on snow or qpf.  This could be one for the books.

Weenie flag flying.

[Powerball]

Imagine getting 3 feet of snow in May...

[cyclone77]

39 here with light rain and some partially melted flakes as well.  Pretty dreary for nearly May.

[madwx]

Heard some sleet roll through around 5 AM. Otherwise it’s been all rain so far. Doubt we’ll escape this without some flakes

[RogueWaves]

Another sh*t spring day but not a UP sh*t spring day. That's tomorrow

[OrdIowPitMsp]

Crazy amount of raw QPF being thrown out by the models for the UP. This would be an issue in July if it was all rain, factor in the weight of snow, and swollen streams/saturated soils from snowmelt and this could be a big big problem. Hope you make it out unscathed @weatherbo

 

Wind has really picked up here, a few gusts around 40mph and sprinkles. Had a few ice pellets earlier this morning.

[bowtie`]

And now to the southern portion of the Midwest. At about 1620Z a tiny, tiny cell went over my house. If you look at the radar it really looks like nothing. Therefore when I heard some hail hitting the window. I figured it would last only a moment then stop. But it kept going. So, I finally got up and went to the back door and looked out. It was really going to town. Only pea-sized just it just wasn't quitting. So I broke down and grabbed the camera and stuck it out the back door.

 

[cyclone77]

This ranks up there at the top of shittiest weather days possible for the very end of April.  Just awful.  40 degrees with steady very light rain that is too light to benefit any living plants.  40mph winds added for a dash of misery.  Anything following this day of garbage weather will be an improvement.

[King James]

Yeah fuck this

[IWXwx]

23 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

This ranks up there at the top of shittiest weather days possible for the very end of April.  Just awful.  40 degrees with steady very light rain that is too light to benefit any living plants.  40mph winds added for a dash of misery.  Anything following this day of garbage weather will be an improvement.

That will be my weather for the next two days. The few days of summer-like weather is not a fair trade for the crap we've had to endure, otherwise.

[Buffalo Bumble]

6 hours ago, weatherbo said:

Nam NOT backing down on snow or qpf.  This could be one for the books.

Weenie flag flying.

 

 

What’s your elevation?  

[hawkeye_wx]

1 hour ago, cyclone77 said:

This ranks up there at the top of shittiest weather days possible for the very end of April.  Just awful.  40 degrees with steady very light rain that is too light to benefit any living plants.  40mph winds added for a dash of misery.  Anything following this day of garbage weather will be an improvement.

It is 50º with only a few sprinkles here.  Considering this is the worst day of the chilly stretch, it could be a lot worse.

[A-L-E-K]

True pisser

[weatherbo]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Bumble said:

What’s your elevation?  

House sits right about 1620'

What's interesting is the enhancement with this storm will be from the persistent upslope northerly flow with no actual "lake" enhancement.  If this were 6 weeks ago, I can't even imagine.

The bolded also has my attention. Could be some crazy surprise totals since their snow forecast map is an actual copy and paste of the 18z model blend.

Moderate to heavy snow will be ongoing across much of the interior
west by Monday morning.  Surface low will deepen to sub 980 mb
during the day Monday as it rotate westward to near Drummond Island.
With the very slow movement and off the charts moisture
availability from the Gulf and Atlantic, the western U.P. will be
in the comma head for an extended period of time. While 85H
temperatures will not be cold enough for lake enhancement, thank
goodness, persistent upslope flow with northerly winds will maximize
precipitation over the highest terrain. Models are in consensus with
widespread 2 to 5 inch qpf amounts with locally higher amounts
expected over the Huron Mountains.  The NAM Nest depiction of 8.5
inches of qpf and 85 inches of snow is clearly overdone, but its
scary to see a model solution like that at this close of a time
range.

 

[Buffalo Bumble]

2 hours ago, weatherbo said:

House sits right about 1620'

What's interesting is the enhancement with this storm will be from the persistent upslope northerly flow with no actual "lake" enhancement.  If this were 6 weeks ago, I can't even imagine.

The bolded also has my attention. Could be some crazy surprise totals, since their snow forecast map is an actual copy and paste of the 18z model blend.

Moderate to heavy snow will be ongoing across much of the interior
west by Monday morning.  Surface low will deepen to sub 980 mb
during the day Monday as it rotate westward to near Drummond Island.
With the very slow movement and off the charts moisture
availability from the Gulf and Atlantic, the western U.P. will be
in the comma head for an extended period of time. While 85H
temperatures will not be cold enough for lake enhancement, thank
goodness, persistent upslope flow with northerly winds will maximize
precipitation over the highest terrain. Models are in consensus with
widespread 2 to 5 inch qpf amounts with locally higher amounts
expected over the Huron Mountains.  The NAM Nest depiction of 8.5
inches of qpf and 85 inches of snow is clearly overdone, but its
scary to see a model solution like that at this close of a time
range.

 

Incredible setup. Look forward to reading your posts the next couple days. 

[Met1985]

3 hours ago, weatherbo said:

House sits right about 1620'

What's interesting is the enhancement with this storm will be from the persistent upslope northerly flow with no actual "lake" enhancement.  If this were 6 weeks ago, I can't even imagine.

The bolded also has my attention. Could be some crazy surprise totals since their snow forecast map is an actual copy and paste of the 18z model blend.

Moderate to heavy snow will be ongoing across much of the interior
west by Monday morning.  Surface low will deepen to sub 980 mb
during the day Monday as it rotate westward to near Drummond Island.
With the very slow movement and off the charts moisture
availability from the Gulf and Atlantic, the western U.P. will be
in the comma head for an extended period of time. While 85H
temperatures will not be cold enough for lake enhancement, thank
goodness, persistent upslope flow with northerly winds will maximize
precipitation over the highest terrain. Models are in consensus with
widespread 2 to 5 inch qpf amounts with locally higher amounts
expected over the Huron Mountains.  The NAM Nest depiction of 8.5
inches of qpf and 85 inches of snow is clearly overdone, but its
scary to see a model solution like that at this close of a time
range.

 

Post pics and keep us updated.  This is a fascinating setup for you up there.

[Stebo]

On 4/29/2023 at 11:05 PM, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

I don't know how anyone who's even slightly interested in the weather can defend Musk's changes, he completely broke many warning and spotting dissemination APIs and resulted in the banning of 16 IEMbot accounts for "spam"

Exactly, which is dangerous as that is a significant way warnings get out.

[Stebo]

What might happen in the UP is really terrible, they already have a decent snow pack still, and adding 3+ feet of cement on top with all that weight is just going to create major issues.

[Chicago Storm]

I posted this in the spring banter thread about two weeks ago, but wanted to update April 2023 data and add two extra data points as well (≤32 low temps and ≤45 high temp counts).

As crappy as some think it was, it really was just an average April for Chicago and nearby areas. If you want to argue the cool/mild periods were flip flopped, sure, but otherwise it was a very April-like April.

April Averages
60+ Highs: 14.0
70+ Highs: 5.6
80+ Highs: 1.4
≤45 Highs: 4.1
≤32 Lows: 6.0
Month Average: 49.8

April 2023
60+ Highs: 17
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 4
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: +2.0

April 2022
60+ Highs: 9
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 6
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: -2.7

April 2021
60+ Highs: 15
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 3
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 3
Month Average: +2.2

April 2020
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 4
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 3
≤32 Lows: 3
Month Average: -1.3

April 2019
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 5
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: 0.0

April 2018
60+ Highs: 8
70+ Highs: 1
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 14
≤32 Lows: 16
Month Average: -8.5

April 2017
60+ Highs: 19
70+ Highs: 11
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 0
Month Average: +4.0

April 2016
60+ Highs: 12
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 2
≤45 Highs: 6
≤32 Lows: 7
Month Average: -1.9

April 2015
60+ Highs: 16
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 0
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 4
Month Average: -0.3

April 2014
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 5
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 3
≤32 Lows: 6
Month Average: -1.1

April 2013
60+ Highs: 11
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 8
≤32 Lows: 6
Month Average: -2.8

April 2012
60+ Highs: 16
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 0
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 2
Month Average: +1.0

[rainsucks]

3 hours ago, Chicago Storm said:

I posted this in the spring banter thread about two weeks ago, but wanted to update April 2023 data and add two extra data points as well (≤32 low temps and ≤45 high temp counts).

As crappy as some think it was, it really was just an average April for Chicago and nearby areas. If you want to argue the cool/mild periods were flip flopped, sure, but otherwise it was a very April-like April.

April Averages
60+ Highs: 14.0
70+ Highs: 5.6
80+ Highs: 1.4
≤45 Highs: 4.1
≤32 Lows: 6.0
Month Average: 49.8

April 2023
60+ Highs: 17
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 4
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: +2.0

April 2022
60+ Highs: 9
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 6
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: -2.7

April 2021
60+ Highs: 15
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 3
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 3
Month Average: +2.2

April 2020
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 4
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 3
≤32 Lows: 3
Month Average: -1.3

April 2019
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 5
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 2
≤32 Lows: 5
Month Average: 0.0

April 2018
60+ Highs: 8
70+ Highs: 1
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 14
≤32 Lows: 16
Month Average: -8.5

April 2017
60+ Highs: 19
70+ Highs: 11
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 0
Month Average: +4.0

April 2016
60+ Highs: 12
70+ Highs: 8
80+ Highs: 2
≤45 Highs: 6
≤32 Lows: 7
Month Average: -1.9

April 2015
60+ Highs: 16
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 0
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 4
Month Average: -0.3

April 2014
60+ Highs: 14
70+ Highs: 5
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 3
≤32 Lows: 6
Month Average: -1.1

April 2013
60+ Highs: 11
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 1
≤45 Highs: 8
≤32 Lows: 6
Month Average: -2.8

April 2012
60+ Highs: 16
70+ Highs: 3
80+ Highs: 0
≤45 Highs: 0
≤32 Lows: 2
Month Average: +1.0

Hope to never see another April like 2018 again in my lifetime.

[Stevo6899]

On 4/29/2023 at 4:19 PM, Stebo said:

Dude you fly off the rails constantly, you of all people shouldn't be talking. And Jon is being a tedious idiot here as usual.

Lol @ flying off the rails. The worst I do is complain about the shitty cold rainy days. This is an open forum, not a classroom discussion. When I'm on here, you just always seem miserable and a dick towards someone for their posts. Anyone can be a dick behind a screen. I doubt you'd say a quarter of what you say on here to someone's face.

[Chicago Storm]

3 hours ago, rainsucks said:

Hope to never see another April like 2018 again in my lifetime.

truly the worst of the worst.

It was the 4th coldest April on record for Chicago.

[OrdIowPitMsp]

April 2018 

[SolidIcewx]

this weather definitely has an impact on the ole immune system after the mid month warmth

[hardypalmguy]

14 minutes ago, SolidIcewx said:

this weather definitely has an impact on the ole immune system after the mid month warmth

tell me about it.  i feel like i have a flu or something coming on.

[SolidIcewx]

7 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said:

tell me about it.  i feel like i have a flu or something coming on.

I have a cold myself. Finally caught up with me. I have 0 motivation to work in the woods today in this rainy BS. Sorry probably ment for banter thread

[Stebo]

11 hours ago, Stevo6899 said:

Lol @ flying off the rails. The worst I do is complain about the shitty cold rainy days. This is an open forum, not a classroom discussion. When I'm on here, you just always seem miserable and a dick towards someone for their posts. Anyone can be a dick behind a screen. I doubt you'd say a quarter of what you say on here to someone's face.

Any time I post now all you do is complain about it. Just stop, no one cares.