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The last hurrah? Putting all the eggs in the Tuesday 3/14 basket


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14 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Good animation Paul....look at that lead shortwave get pretty far east before it gets captured/phased back with the northern stream ULL...that is key to a big hit outside of the Berkshires/highest elevations.

Sorry if this has been answered… whats a good analog for this one with this track and stall and loop..

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7 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

that kind of solution is where dynamic cooling would actually occur. 925mb temps are more useful here

Anytime you get legit heavy rates, it's going to latently cool the sfc to near freezing. With those rates and height falls shown on the Euro, it's going to be heavy snow under the CCB even in low elevations.

If we end up with a system that produces only moderate rates, then the lower levels will definitely play a much larger role in preventing accumulations.

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1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Anytime you get legit heavy rates, it's going to latently cool the sfc to near freezing. With those rates and height falls shown on the Euro, it's going to be heavy snow under the CCB even in low elevations.

If we end with with a system that produces only moderate rates, then the lower levels will definitely play a much larger role in preventing accumulations.

yup, March is go big or go home. nice to see the ECMWF and UKMET agree. that used to be a deadly combo at this range, but who even knows now

the EPS will be interesting. I'd like to see more of these show up

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Just imagine this. I mean there would certainly be a subsidence screw zone but given the evolution the chances of the CCB traversing the majority of the region would be high and this would likely sit and pivot somewhere...that's when you're going to be talking about the potential for some obscene totals.

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The weather was unseasonably mild just before the blizzard, with heavy rains that turned to snow as temperatures dropped rapidly.[3] On March 12, New York City dropped from 33 °F (1 °C) to 8 °F (−13 °C), and rain changed to snow at 1am.[5] The storm began in earnest shortly after midnight on March 12 and continued unabated for a full day and a half. In a 2007 article, the National Weather Service estimated that this nor'easter dumped as much as 50 inches (130 cm) of snow in parts of Connecticut and Massachusetts, while parts of New Jersey and New York had up to 40 inches (100 cm).[2] Most of northern Vermont received from 20 inches (51 cm) to 30 inches (76 cm).[

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8 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

also, as silly as it sounds to mention, -1C is 30 degrees. makes a big difference if the lower levels are that cold. you're also getting adiabatic cooling. it would snow there, no question

There hasn’t been any discussion about wind potential.  Thoughts?

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On March 10, temperatures in the Northeast hovered in the mid-50s. But on March 11, cold Arctic air from Canada collided with Gulf air from the south and temperatures plunged. Rain turned to snow and winds reached hurricane-strength levels. By midnight on March 11, gusts were recorded at 85 miles per hour in New York City. Along with heavy snow, there was a complete whiteout in the city when the residents awoke the next morning

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1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said:

On March 10, temperatures in the Northeast hovered in the mid-50s. But on March 11, cold Arctic air from Canada collided with Gulf air from the south and temperatures plunged. Rain turned to snow and winds reached hurricane-strength levels. By midnight on March 11, gusts were recorded at 85 miles per hour in New York City. Along with heavy snow, there was a complete whiteout in the city when the residents awoke the next morning

Ahhhh 1888. I knew someone would bring it up

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