Heisy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Not sure how many people know this, but the NAM was supposed to be retired by now. There’s a model that’s already running that’s supposed to be it’s replacement. Forget what it’s called but I’ll try to find its forecast through our Philly met. for this storm and post it. I’m not going to be able to chase this one, so that’s a full year without seeing 1 inch of snow for me. Going to be a long summer. Good luck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Doesn’t it technically have to be below 20 degrees or a certain temperature? No temp requirements just 1/4 mile vis or less and 35+mph wind gusts for 3 consecutive hours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, FXWX said: By wiping down & tanking up my tractor this afternoon, I came back in to check trends? The old don't touch the money curse come is starting to haunt me! Worried about Murphy's Law syndrome. oh that's nice, sit down and clean! no fighting the new snowblower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: No temp requirements just 1/4 mile vis or less and 35+mph wind gusts for 3 consecutive hours. It’d be something if GON gets 2-3” and verifies a blizzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, WxWatcher007 said: It’d be something if GON gets 2-3” and verifies a blizzard Like the places in the Midwest that verify blizzard with no snow falling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Doesn’t it technically have to be below 20 degrees or a certain temperature? Any temp criteria was ditched long ago. Wind and vis, nothing more, nothing less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Blizzards ain't what they used to be... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Like the places in the Midwest that verify blizzard with no snow falling. yeah them ground blizzard deals are crazy, I went through one with only a couple dry inches otg, crazy whiteout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: No temp requirements just 1/4 mile vis or less and 35+mph wind gusts for 3 consecutive hours. When I was a kid there was a temperature requirement. That disappeared about 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said: Skip Bennington head up to Woodford Who the hell would drive to Bennington for a snow storm , great downslope snow hole and poorer ratios in thus set up . 10-20 miles west prob gets 2-3x as much at 1800-2200’ joe must not know S VT climo , just tryin to help joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmtnwx Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Who the hell would drive to Bennington for a snow storm , great downslope snow hole and poorer ratios in thus set up . 10-20 miles west prob gets 2-3x as much at 1800-2200’ joe must not know S VT climo , just tryin to help joe Remember when Phin said he was considering Bennington until Will told him no, get yourself to that Randolph cabin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, greenmtnwx said: Remember when Phin said he was considering Bennington until Will told him no, get yourself to that Randolph cabin. Ya I mean unless you check a topo map AND understand orographic lift and the degree of its benefits I’m sure many weenies have been led astray with the models showing big lift between 5-7H from the mid level lows going under and the way 2k helps temps in addition to ESE to E flow at 850 cranking , (I think that helps ) I wound imagine 25-30”somewhere between Berks and S VT on E slope And potentially even higher if things line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, FXWX said: By wiping down & tanking up my tractor this afternoon, I came back in to check trends? The old don't touch the money curse come is starting to haunt me! Worried about Murphy's Law syndrome. You probably cleared your driveway and everyone else's for a 40 mile radius. Best snowblower ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ed, snow and hurricane fan said: When I was a kid there was a temperature requirement. That disappeared about 30 years ago. Yep... 20 f or lower. Svr 10 f or lower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said: Remember when Phin said he was considering Bennington until Will told him no, get yourself to that Randolph cabin. He almost did Lancaster/Whitefield NH too and those are downslope hellscapes for snow weenies too (but they do get epic frigid in winter). Anyways, hoping for better trends at 00z with the CCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 This should be a rather helpful guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Like the places in the Midwest that verify blizzard with no snow falling. Buffalo got 7 feet once when it wasn't snowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, FXWX said: Yep... 20 f or lower. Svr 10 f or lower I thought I remembered 96 still having a temp requirement, am I mistaken, when exactly did they nix that? if you recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Any temp criteria was ditched long ago. Wind and vis, nothing more, nothing less. I still love the blizzard warnings in the Dakotas for 2-3'' of snow with 60 mph winds...now that's a blizzard haha (ground blizzard anyways) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Spent the past few hours typing away at the blog. Updated forecast. these are the changes from my map yesterday Added a 20-30'' contour within the Berkshires where orographic enhancement combined with the greatest ratios will occur. 18-24'' contour was reduced to 16-20''. 12-18'' contour was adjusted to 12-16'' and also pushed farther east through Litchfield County, CT, far northwestern New Haven County, CT, and far western Hartford County, CT to account for the higher elevation and higher totals. 6-12'' contour was adjusted to 8-12''. 3-6'' contour was adjusted to 4-8'' and this contour brought higher into the Connecticut Valley to reflect subsidence concerns. 2-4'' contour for the Connecticut shoreline with a 1-3'' contour added in eastern Massachusetts. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: I still love the blizzard warnings in the Dakotas for 2-3'' of snow with 60 mph winds...now that's a blizzard haha (ground blizzard anyways) you see my post a little bit up, described exactly that, was outside Minneapolis and literally 2" otg and completely white out, like 50-60mph winds and cold as I ever felt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Amped said: This should be a rather helpful guide. Nothing to do w/ New England, except NBM, half of NWS Houston's AFD's are why they are deviating significantly from the NBM. I'm mixing 12Z NAM (but cutting snow Long Island and Boston metro in half due temps) and Tip's discussions, best realistic result for Massapequa 11758 and North Quincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_observer Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Major impacts on WSSI look like they expanded from previous update...quite a bit more into E MA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, tavwtby said: you see my post a little bit up, described exactly that, was outside Minneapolis and literally 2" otg and completely white out, like 50-60mph winds and cold as I ever felt. Obviously never witnessed in person, but the videos that come out of there are insane. They'll close long stretches of highways in that stuff b/c it's way too dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 inches of slop with tornado alley like power flashes as wet snow on the third rail causes arcing and sparking at North Quincy MBTA station. (Is there still a Merit station across from MBTA by N. Quincy High and the Red Raiders?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, weatherwiz said: Obviously never witnessed in person, but the videos that come out of there are insane. They'll close long stretches of highways in that stuff b/c it's way too dangerous. yeah, believe it was Burnsville, and yeah they closed I think it's I35, was insane a couple days later it was like 50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Do you foresee any changes on you map this evening? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, wx_observer said: Major impacts on WSSI look like they expanded from previous update...quite a bit more into E MA Major from here points SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ed, snow and hurricane fan said: 8 inches of slop with tornado alley like power flashes as wet snow on the third rail causes arcing and sparking at North Quincy MBTA station. (Is there still a Merit station across from MBTA by N. Quincy High and the Red Raiders?) It's speedway now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Spent the past few hours typing away at the blog. Updated forecast. these are the changes from my map yesterday Added a 20-30'' contour within the Berkshires where orographic enhancement combined with the greatest ratios will occur. 18-24'' contour was reduced to 16-20''. 12-18'' contour was adjusted to 12-16'' and also pushed farther east through Litchfield County, CT, far northwestern New Haven County, CT, and far western Hartford County, CT to account for the higher elevation and higher totals. 6-12'' contour was adjusted to 8-12''. 3-6'' contour was adjusted to 4-8'' and this contour brought higher into the Connecticut Valley to reflect subsidence concerns. 2-4'' contour for the Connecticut shoreline with a 1-3'' contour added in eastern Massachusetts. Just slide the Berks shade Over a bit as E slope goes into the county to the East 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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