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March 9-10 Winter Storm


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2 minutes ago, tuanis said:

Let's keep talking about Dallas in a winter storm thread when Dallas is a solid 650 miles away from any winter weather related to the event.

There was a side about conversation about everyone's ideal climo within the US and I merely provided my own input to it.

That said, if my input to said side bar conversation is not welcome, please feel free to ignore.

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Models continue to be all over the place regarding exactly where the best totals (and dry pockets) will be.... northeast Iowa, southern Iowa, through me.  In general, the drying has continued.  This is not a strong low with heavy banding parking over the area.  Models suggest the heavier rates will last a couple hours and then it'll just be light snow.  Combined with iffy temps, in March, I think the safe bet is around 3" here.

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3 hours ago, Powerball said:

Dallas really is the best climo for a weather weenie, if we're being honest.

Besides the long warm seasons and seeing plenty of sun, there aren't many places (at least in the US) where you can go from:

*A historic deep freeze in February (2021) to...

*A December of wall-to-wall Summer-like weather in the same year (2021), plus...

*A historic tornado outbreak the following December (2022), not to mention...

*One of the worst droughts and driest/hottest Summers ever completely busted by a freak deluge in a matter of hours (2022)...

The best part is, these types of events aren't nearly as destructive as a Hurricane, Tsunami or Earthquake of decent strength would be.

Dallas would be TORTURE for me. Absolute TORTURE 

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3 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

I'm liking ratios to not be slush with this one. Chances are increasing that Detroit could see its 3rd 6" snowstorm of the winter. Go figure lol

I hope I'll actually be able to use my snowblower on this snowfall.  I didn't even bother trying on the last one.  I knew I'd just get logs of ice plugging the chute.  Please Mother Nature...no rain for Wyandotte.  LOL

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1 minute ago, BigHoss48192 said:

I hope I'll actually be able to use my snowblower on this snowfall.  I didn't even bother trying on the last one.  I knew I'd just get logs of ice plugging the chute.  Please Mother Nature...no rain for Wyandotte.  LOL

I didn't bother either. It clogged enough Jan 25. It didn't have a prayer Mar 3 haha

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.UPDATE...
Issued at 1140 AM CST Wed Mar 8 2023

No changes were made to the Winter Storm Watch in effect for the
Wisconsin state line counties. The key points from the early AM
AFD remain similar and there`s still generally speaking two camps,
the higher QPF and snow NCEP guidance (including some but not all
CAMs) and the lower QPF and snow foreign guidance. Heaviest
precipitation rates, possibly including some rain at onset, look
to be mid-late Thursday afternoon into the early evening. Part of
that includes daylight hours and temperatures starting a few to
several degrees above freezing, so it`s uncertain how long heavier
snow rates will take after onset to result in pavement accumulations
and worsening impacts. Thinking is that decisions on the winter
headlines should be able to be made this afternoon after assessing
the rest of the 12z model cycle data, which primarily is the
ECMWF and its ensemble at this point.

Castro
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3 hours ago, Powerball said:

Dallas climo is definitely not great if you're mostly just a winter weather weenie. Eskimo climos such as Chicago and Minneapolis (where you're rocking parkas and slipping/sliding on ice/snow for 3-6 months) would be more ideal for sure.

But a winter weather weenie is not necessarily a weather weenie, who is someone that likes to see/track all kinds of active/extreme weather and a variety of it on a frequent basis.

A snowstorm in Dallas is like a thunderstorm in Seattle.  It's only noteworthy because it doesn't happen very often.

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Looking forward to Ricky's storm-specific update coming soon! Seems like lower totals overall but may be trending a little bit south in N IL. 

####

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL
256 PM CST Wed Mar 8 2023

.SHORT TERM...
Issued at 253 PM CST Wed Mar 8 2023

Through Friday...

Key Forecast Messages and Concerns:

* Winter Weather Advisory has been issued for the I-88 and
  northward counties/zones, including WI state line counties which
  were previously in a Winter Storm Watch, starting 3pm Thursday
  near/west of Fox Valley, and 6pm Thursday closer to the lake

* Very wet/dense/heavy snow once again, and temperatures starting
  a few to several degrees above freezing casts uncertainty
  regarding timing of worsening impacts Thursday afternoon

* There is support for heavy snow rates up to an inch per hour
  causing impacts to part of the Thursday PM commute, though
  likely shorter duration of heavy rates and low SLRs points
  toward 12-hour snow amounts generally below 6"

* Highest snow amounts remain forecast for the state line counties
  at up to 4-7" by the time the snow ends early Friday

* Consideration of expanding the WWA a tier or two of counties
  southward toward I-80 corridor may be warranted depending on
  guidance and observational trends

Tonight will be quiet and dry under the influence of surface high
pressure ridging southward across the Great Lakes. Expecting cloud
cover to balance out as mostly cloudy, with lows in the lower to
mid 30s by early Thursday.

Meteorological Details for Thursday PM-Friday AM Winter Weather:

To be issued shortly.

Castro
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1 hour ago, michaelmantis said:

Looking forward to Ricky's storm-specific update coming soon! Seems like lower totals overall but may be trending a little bit south in N IL. 

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL
256 PM CST Wed Mar 8 2023

.SHORT TERM...
Issued at 253 PM CST Wed Mar 8 2023

Through Friday...

Key Forecast Messages and Concerns:

* Winter Weather Advisory has been issued for the I-88 and
  northward counties/zones, including WI state line counties which
  were previously in a Winter Storm Watch, starting 3pm Thursday
  near/west of Fox Valley, and 6pm Thursday closer to the lake

* Very wet/dense/heavy snow once again, and temperatures starting
  a few to several degrees above freezing casts uncertainty
  regarding timing of worsening impacts Thursday afternoon

* There is support for heavy snow rates up to an inch per hour
  causing impacts to part of the Thursday PM commute, though
  likely shorter duration of heavy rates and low SLRs points
  toward 12-hour snow amounts generally below 6"

* Highest snow amounts remain forecast for the state line counties
  at up to 4-7" by the time the snow ends early Friday

* Consideration of expanding the WWA a tier or two of counties
  southward toward I-80 corridor may be warranted depending on
  guidance and observational trends

Tonight will be quiet and dry under the influence of surface high
pressure ridging southward across the Great Lakes. Expecting cloud
cover to balance out as mostly cloudy, with lows in the lower to
mid 30s by early Thursday.

Meteorological Details for Thursday PM-Friday AM Winter Weather:

To be issued shortly.

Castro

And damn Ricky did not disappoint... 

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2 hours ago, Harry said:

Looks like a general 4-7 across this area. 

Will be waiting a long time to see anything over here rivaling last Friday's intensity. Amazing how much snow we've actually scored with so few days below freezing all winter including zero below freezing in March, which is now way above normal snowfall for the month and isn't done. 

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