Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Well out to sea, as I’ve been stating it’s becoming obvious to me the GFs suite is full of crap as always. At 144 though there seems to be a load shortwave dropping south for storm 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Oh boy, PNA heaven bear Idaho, this thing is phasing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 euro doing a full phase at 168…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I can’t wait to see the wxbell maps holy fook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Verbatim it probably tucked too much for SNE but it def destroys someone in the region with that look . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just saw the 192h Euro, it keeps going with the 12z evolution and parks a 982 mb low over Salem MA. 850s look good, warm seclusion look. 20-30 incher without seeing the snowfall maps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Heisy said: Well out to sea, as I’ve been stating it’s becoming obvious to me the GFs suite is full of crap as always. At 144 though there seems to be a load shortwave dropping south for storm 2 . Yeah Storm 1 is non-starter similar to GEM. Storm 2 is an absolute bomb but at this range for the op does it matter? the EC/EPS was gorgeous at this range 2 days at 00Z/Sunday. Maps are fun to look at though, its all we got lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 So do you want the weekend GFS, the midweek Euro, or ... ... both (heh heh) ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 So do you want the weekend GFS, the midweek Euro, or ... ... both (heh heh) ??I like storm 2 because of the PNA domain. 00z euro massively improved that for storm 2. Im all in for storm 2 for nyc-Ne at least. Especially with how those other models ensembles look . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Oh boy, PNA heaven bear Idaho, this thing is phasing .LolSent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 LolSent from my SM-A515U using TapatalkI live for these runs. I have bad enough ADHD as it is, when a monster run like this happens I can barely put a sentence together lmao . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ji you coming with me? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Heisy said: Verbatim it probably tucked too much for SNE but it def destroys someone in the region with that look . Hopefully the ENS are more progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, 78Blizzard said: Just opining on what the model showed as others have been doing since this thread started. Just opining on what I believe will actually happen as others have also been doing....at the end of the day, that is what people care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Its manufacturing failure for 3/14-15 It found it for the southeastern third of SNE, that run- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The Euro storm is a monster, it just fills slowly almost in place, if you could get it to follow a track 50 miles more out to sea ... wow. But I realize it's very hypothetical. The thing about the GFS is, forecast error at 96h is a lot smaller than at 192h. I notice in my routine forecasting in Europe that the GFS is taking a different approach from the other models too, tracking a low further north within 48h across Ireland and the UK. Makes a big difference to snow potential there. I'll report which model(s) got this right some time within next two days, if this model disparity doesn't disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Roger Smith said: The Euro storm is a monster, it just fills slowly almost in place, if you could get it to follow a track 50 miles more out to sea ... wow. But I realize it's very hypothetical. The thing about the GFS is, forecast error at 96h is a lot smaller than at 192h. I notice in my routine forecasting in Europe that the GFS is taking a different approach from the other models too, tracking a low further north within 48h across Ireland and the UK. Makes a big difference to snow potential there. I'll report which model(s) got this right some time within next two days, if this model disparity doesn't disappear. I'm not as worried about the track, or how much it hugs at this point....what is more important from a SNE perspective over the next several days is delaying that H5 capture that results in LBSW. I think that is what becomes more set in stone than the exact track. I feel like ensembles will do just that. I'm feeling better about settling on this date/wave is "the one"....aligns well with the 1956 analog. People are going to weenie me for that...they have been all season and probably will right up until it happens. Did the same shit leading into March 2018, Jan 2016, and Jan 2015...That's fine- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I get that there is still plenty of QPF for SNE that run....but you are always playing with fire when things close off/occlude too soon....again, I realize this is one day 7-8 OP run....speaking more from a theoretical sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ji you coming with me? .Well be in mid phase 8 by then at a very high amplitude...maybe it's a colder storm Sent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, Ji said: Well be in mid phase 8 by then at a very high amplitude...maybe it's a colder storm Sent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk Dude, wife and kids are with fam over seas for several weeks right now, so let me know if you head up this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I get that there is still plenty of QPF for SNE that run....but you are always playing with fire when things close off/occlude too soon....again, I realize this is one day 7-8 OP run....speaking more from a theoretical sense. I am willing to bet that thermals would also be less of an issue if you save the best dynamics for closest approach to the region, too...you can see in the Kutchera map that there is a pretty identifiable dependence on elevations....has the "up and in" look. That would be less of an issue if you delayed the H5 closure and potential capture. LBSW exacerbates thermal issues and causes some funky crap in the SGZ, but those are issues for a much closer range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Key take away for me is emergent continuity on a very slow moving tempest early to mid week...this run had less separation between the N and S steam (very subtle southern kink) components than 12z due to better PNA ridging, so they phased sooner..LARGEST run of the week will be 00z Saturday, when discrete waves come ashore for optimal data ingest....get some rest while you can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 EPS: 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 EPS trend was for slightly weaker blocking, which allowed for closer track...hopefully that doesn't continue, but not too worried....at least for my locale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Reminds me a bit of 3/5/01, too. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Great so the 1st wave is too suppressed and the 2nd is a hugger and congrats interior. Sweet! I think the coast is toast. Can’t win a single thing this winter 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said: Great so the 1st wave is too suppressed and the 2nd is a hugger and congrats interior. Sweet! I think the coast is toast. Can’t win a single thing this winter Lol... This is not the outcome. Patience grasshopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Heisy said: Euro still not rolling out, any word on delay? . Trying find it's crown that it lost several years ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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