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March Medium/Long Range Thread: The Empire Strikes Back


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  On 3/3/2023 at 5:07 PM, alexderiemer said:

I mean you're the expert, but I would feel that at this long a lead time, that having the OP disagree with it's own ENS would lend a little more credence to the ENS, no?

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Obviously an op run without ensemble support is less credible than one with support. 

But it is still very much one of the possibilities that we cannot rule out. If it holds back and amps too much, this will be a miss for us. 

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  On 3/3/2023 at 5:24 PM, brooklynwx99 said:

I would still caution against using snowfall means. the 500mb pattern is so good that models will probably come around on that stuff. they already kind of are

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just fun to look - agree the massive takeaway is that the ens are substantially improved. 

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  On 3/3/2023 at 5:24 PM, brooklynwx99 said:

I would still caution against using snowfall means. the 500mb pattern is so good that models will probably come around on that stuff. they already kind of are

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Right.  Those means at this range, can be highly influenced by one huge solution or a few really bad ones (i.e., zero), so it washes out.  The ops GFS essentially was an extreme "ensemble" member itself, in a way.

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  On 3/3/2023 at 5:26 PM, Ralph Wiggum said:

P05 seems about right. Honestly tho, quite surprised at the number of misses north, even my area, given the means.

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Not that it matters much, but a lot of those misses north are today/tomorrow's storm still showing up on the means/individual members.

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