STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, jbenedet said: That’s ahh a clear trend . 850/925 look plenty cold for now for those who stay on N side of system but the trend is not the friend of those in S SNE . Let’s see if that continues , reverses etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: That’s ahh a clear trend . 850/925 look plenty cold for now for those who stay on N side of system but the trend is not the friend of those in S SNE . Let’s see if that continues , reverses etc 850 looks good, but its 925 down you have to worry about most, I believe. Easterly fetch when primary hangs on, and surface high slides east. And potentially sneaky warm tongues above 850. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, jbenedet said: 850 looks good, but its 925 down you have to worry about most, I believe. Easterly fetch when primary hangs on, and surface high slides east. And potentially sneaky warm tongues above 850. The high is holding solidly on those maps you posted . Even as the low trends NW ..the high is holding ...I just see a pretty strong gradient setting up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Okay, but.. for winter enthusiasts, I think it's cold enough - serviceable. The anomaly products are less constraining on the outlook for me, when the scalar assessments of the 2-meter ambient temperature, and the 850 thermal layout over the course of the total synoptic awareness/evolution...is deeply cold enough. I mean, these synoptic parameters could certainly change in the modeling moving forward... we'll see. Where? More specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: The high is holding solidly on those maps you posted . Even as the low trends NW ..the high is holding ...I just see a pretty strong gradient setting up Ho hum, no kiddin' . Re: winter 2022-2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I’m curious if there’s ice potential with this one. Would the decent High to the north feed cold surface air down the valley, even if the primary is torching the mid levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, jbenedet said: This one is going to look familiar in terms of the seasonal persistence gradient. I don't think you start to feel comfortable with odds of significant wintry precip until to go from PWM, to DAW, to MA/VT border. Same old same old….trough digging more out west and se ridge trending stronger….this will be a mid west storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yea trends today are NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea trends today are NW. gfs west of Illinois now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 GFS kitchen sink storm for SNE....front ender snow to sleet to ZR (interior...rain coast). Almost looks like a juicer version of 2/22-23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Allsnow said: gfs west of Illinois now I’m sure we’ll start seeing some ticks se but we’re getting in the range now of seeing the system for what it is. Interior snows, kitchen sink SNE, and rain for the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Who would have thought? Everyone bashes the GFS and look. Another storm that trended unfavorable. Smh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I’m sure we’ll start seeing some ticks se but we’re getting in the range now of seeing the system for what it is. There's still a large spread on how the NAO is handling the Quebec confluence to the north. I want to see that spread reduce some before getting confident in solutions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: There's still a large spread on how the NAO is handling the Quebec confluence to the north. I want to see that spread reduce some before getting confident in solutions. Details TBD for sure but I originally thought we could manage an all snow event from NYC to BOS but that’s increasingly less likely now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 GFS tries to Kraft ern areas after hr 144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Well SNE in general I should say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: GFS tries to Kraft ern areas after hr 144 Trailing shortwave regenerates snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: GFS tries to Kraft ern areas after hr 144 Ray just slammed a wet diaper on the floor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: The high is holding solidly on those maps you posted . Even as the low trends NW ..the high is holding ...I just see a pretty strong gradient setting up H700 looks like biggest nagging issue for snow accums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: The high is holding solidly on those maps you posted . Even as the low trends NW ..the high is holding ...I just see a pretty strong gradient setting up CF just se of me IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Trailing shortwave regenerates snow. Yep. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinghamBoss Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: Yep. Not bad. Just let our area get one 6+" storm and I am good heading to the locker room till next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I like it this one for at least an MECS with some upside, Just need to keep expectations in check once again, This one looks to be heading into the seasonal trend of de amplification strength wise after some zoinked runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 gfs is a disaster for SNE and N ME (too far N). Not much wiggle room north unfortunately, but wish it'd cut more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yeah..that trailing S/W has been looming ... the way it interferes is in question. It seems it is helping to tip the flow more SW and that carries the 3rd/4th lead more NW... ultimately creating the mangle aggregate clung to IP zr fest. I dunno... the orbital view to me hasn't changed. I don't see this getting N of Cleveland really... It's like the GFS has been trying to find ways to squeeze along that axis ever more densely every run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 GGEM is a pretty huge hit for SNE...does tickle the sleet line about up to the pike but there's a pretty robust front ender prior to that down south of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 GGEM was really suppressed at 00z, so it's not a surprise it came north to be more in line with other guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, dryslot said: I like it this one for at least an MECS with some upside, Just need to keep expectations in check once again, This one looks to be heading into the seasonal trend of de amplification strength wise after some zoinked runs. Out west to the plains it's trending stronger. I think the problem is damage is done on that front, sending the 540 thickness where many are "out of the game". Confluence is there but with background warmth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, ORH_wxman said: GGEM was really suppressed at 00z, so it's not a surprise it came north to be more in line with other guidance. yup... we're struggling to find a consensus here - but there is some sense of really getting an event. Heh...gotta start somewhere. But that's the take away so far... we'll see where things go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, dryslot said: I like it this one for at least an MECS with some upside, Just need to keep expectations in check once again, This one looks to be heading into the seasonal trend of de amplification strength wise after some zoinked runs. 1 footish is the ceiling here IMO...its not a HECS. I don't like the attenuation and primary struggles. Not complaining...just how I see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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