CoastalWx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinghamBoss Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 One other GFS yellow light is the amount of snow that falls between 7AM-Noon on Saturday here. As we saw this week, would have to be some insane rates to get accums like that. Feels like another Midnight-7AM race to pile up. Not buying double digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: Take a deep breath and Give out a Couple big Howls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Guidance has been notoriously cold at the surface all the way into go time, this season. This is especially true for NAM and GFS. You tack on a few degrees at the surface for even latest NAM and GFS and it's a lot of inhibition to stacking it up at the stake. The gradient with this really is like the seasonal persistence, to a Tee, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 GEFS are balls out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Most important euro run of our lives at 12z for BOS area (until 00z) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Pretty easy forecast for my area at least. A nice strip of 1"-15" with a little sleet and maybe some rain should suffice 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: GEFS are balls out too. They’re holding tough! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jbenedet said: Guidance has been notoriously cold at the surface all the way into go time, this season. This is especially true for NAM and GFS. You tack on a few degrees at the surface for even latest NAM and GFS and it's a lot of inhibition to stacking it up at the stake. The gradient with this really is like the seasonal persistence, to a Tee, in my view. Guidance has been dreadful with temperatures pretty much throughout the country for weeks. I'm sure a large part of it has to do with the pattern but I mean they've been terrible. MOS, NBM, etc. I don't know much (well anything) about model physics, but I wonder how much of an impact something like this has on the models. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinghamBoss Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: GEFS are balls out too. Another solution going all in on The Wall. Insane totals between 6z-12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Guidance has been notoriously cold at the surface all the way into go time, this season. This is especially true for NAM and GFS. You tack on a few degrees at the surface for even latest NAM and GFS and it's a lot of inhibition to stacking it up at the stake. The gradient with this really is like the seasonal persistence, to a Tee, in my view. ..and it is why that needs to be taken into account for the upcoming storm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyWx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 GEFS loves that CCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, HinghamBoss said: Another solution going all in on The Wall. Insane totals between 6z-12z. Fahrvergnugen model was a tick south, but needs work. I would like the euro to make a move and not a 5 mile fart to the south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 And if it does…are folks still gonna say the GFS went towards it? And if it doesn’t make a move, then we have a stand off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Fahrvergnugen model was a tick south, but needs work. I would like the euro to make a move and not a 5 mile fart to the south. Yeah but the Euro typically doesn't make moves that are more than 5 mile farts. Ukie looked pretty good. Has a really nice thump front end. (just don't look at clown maps on pivotal....snow algorithm went all wonky between 42-48h during the big thump) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Can I engineer a fifty mile south shift by dumping coffee on the Euro mainframe? I’ve given up on snow, but a cold paint-ablating scalping would be nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: They’re holding tough! Lol. I'm expecting, maybe wrongly, a huge NAM solution flip within 12 hours. Over the years, I'd take consistent rgem over a consistent NAM. Any compromise solution between the euro, gfs, them is nowhere near as warm and blah as the NAM. NAM is in a position to out-duel not just one model, but 3 or 4 other schemes. Maybe it does, but I'm beyond wary... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, FXWX said: I'm expecting, maybe wrongly, a huge NAM solution flip within 12 hours. Over the years, I'd take consistent rgem over a consistent NAM. Any compromise solution between the euro, gfs, them is nowhere near as warm and blah as the NAM. NAM is in a position to out-duel not just one model, but 3 or 4 other schemes. Maybe it does, but I'm beyond wary... Ya I agree John. I don’t think the NAM wins the day here though. Certainly I could be completely wrong…but I’m not thinking so. If nothing else, it’s model theater at its best at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The Euro past two days: Chicago to Cleveland, slow trek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The GFS: pretty consistent, some wobbling around Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 IBM graf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, SouthCoastMA said: The Euro past two days: Chicago to Cleveland, slow trek. My point exactly…was way too far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, SouthCoastMA said: The Euro past two days: Chicago to Cleveland, slow trek. Yeah biggest issue was near Chicago. But sensible weather here it hasn’t made a huge difference yet. I hope it does move south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Ukie looked a hair better to me at 850/700 but the clown was worse and precip was same . Pretty null run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 We'll really know for certain with the 0z (f not 6z) runs tonight. By then the surface low will have developed and convection will be ongoing. The issues that models are having with the development of these two will be resolved and I would think model performance improves and becomes in stronger agreement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah biggest issue was near Chicago. But sensible weather here it hasn’t made a huge difference yet. I hope it does move south. And it doesn't mean shit here, so I'm not sure why I care. I'll take another tic or 2 south so I can get a couple on the front end, which would mean 6"+ potentially in your neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Ukie looked a hair better to me at 850/700 but the clown was worse and precip was same . Pretty null run Clown map on pivotal had something weird happen between 42-48....it has nobody getting over an inch or snow (including CNE/NNE)....so just go old school and analyze the QPF/midlevels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said: The GFS: pretty consistent, some wobbling around Cleveland. Nice brain fart with that low on the delmarva, Whats a 500 mi shift east among friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Is the better high pressure to the north in Maine on the GFS a legit possibility? Cuz if so that could mean a big difference obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, dryslot said: Nice brain fart with that low on the delmarva, Whats a 500 mi shift east among friends. just an earlier transfer reflected on surface map. primary still around Cleveland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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