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10 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

 

Remember all those drool worthy runs in December. All we got was a big cutter and a couple frigid days for Christmas. 

Just because it doesn't workout doesn't mean it's not a good pattern. If we get the December pattern again in March and get a little luckier it could be real interesting.  

 

On the flip side a bad setup can also sometimes kind of work out like tonight.  

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4 hours ago, Winterweatherlover said:

Just because it doesn't workout doesn't mean it's not a good pattern. If we get the December pattern again in March and get a little luckier it could be real interesting.  

 

On the flip side a bad setup can also sometimes kind of work out like tonight.  

That kind of pattern works out much more often in March than it does in December

 

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11 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

What a fantastic look for March. 

 

Tanking EPO

Rising PNA

Negative NAO

Dropping AO

 

MJO in 8 at a high amplitude 

 

DT is now on board for an active March along with other meteorologists. 

 

GEFS and EPS are also on board

That’s great news, but can we save the Friday storm in time?

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9 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

What are you even looking at ?

The extent of BN anomalies is impressive however the coldest air remains west. 

This would be a good look for DJF when climo is favorable. By mid March averages are pushing 50. 

The cold will equal 40s for highs and barely below freezing lows. On sunny days we could still get to 50+

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Just now, SnoSki14 said:

The extent of BN anomalies is impressive however the coldest air remains west. 

This would be a good look for DJF when climo is favorable. By mid March averages are pushing 50. 

The cold will equal 40s for highs and barely below freezing lows. On sunny days we could still get to 50+

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You WANT this in a strong block otherwise you are suppressed and it's congratulations MA.

Look at last night the RNA actually helped us. If the RNA was weaker we risk suppression.

Take a look at the MA, this and the NE sub forums. Most METS are onboard with only posters arguing against. Most of the arguments are just from "persistence".

Now, if you can convince me how the H5 look is likely to fail I am all ears.

 

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4 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

You WANT this in a strong block otherwise you are suppressed and it's congratulations MA.

Look at last night the RNA actually helped us. If the RNA was weaker we risk suppression.

Take a look at the MA, this and the NE sub forums. Most METS are onboard with only posters arguing against. Most of the arguments are just from "persistence".

Now, if you can convince me how the H5 look is likely to fail I am all ears.

 

Suppression depression. The only game in town is Friday. If that's a flop, looking likely, then it's BN & dry. 

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1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said:

Suppression depression 

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Correct!

See, we WANT the RNA to pump the SER a little. If not, congrats MA. This year the RNA has created a historic winter for California, Arizona, Nevada etc. If we are all onboard the persistence train, then the RNA will help us rise the SER.

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6 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Correct!

See, we WANT the RNA to pump the SER a little. If not, congrats MA. This year the RNA has created a historic winter for California, Arizona, Nevada etc. If we are all onboard the persistence train, then the RNA will help us rise the SER.

That's what's happening with the Friday storm and we still lose. Persistence usually works out well. 

We got lucky last night like we got lucky in other bad years like 01/02 but overall persistence wins. After looking at the March weeklies I'm going with cold/dry (-2 departure) and under 3" of snow mostly from clipper like systems. 

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1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said:

That's what's happening with the Friday storm and we still lose. 

We are still in play for a coating to 2 inches before the flip. Also, the good period starts around the 10th when the RNA is not too powerful like the late week warmup.

Take a look at H5 on the ensembles.

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18 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Amazingly we got snow out of this "cutter".  

Just shows you how the snow totals never really tell the story in a winter...03-04 was not overly cold at all from 12/1-1/5 or so but we had like 25 inches of snow...90-91 was another winter with decent snows around the area but we fluked into 2 SWFEs early with horrible patterns...it really just comes down to timing...this year as I am sure you are aware every damn time we had a high sliding across Canada we never could time a storm with it

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1 minute ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Just shows you how the snow totals never really tell the story in a winter...03-04 was not overly cold at all from 12/1-1/5 or so but we had like 25 inches of snow...90-91 was another winter with decent snows around the area but we fluked into 2 SWFEs early with horrible patterns...it really just comes down to timing...this year as I am sure you are aware every damn time we had a high sliding across Canada we never could time a storm with it

How do you interpret the phase 1 March MJO look? NE is warm while the SE is cold. Is that "south based" blocking?

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7 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Just shows you how the snow totals never really tell the story in a winter...03-04 was not overly cold at all from 12/1-1/5 or so but we had like 25 inches of snow...90-91 was another winter with decent snows around the area but we fluked into 2 SWFEs early with horrible patterns...it really just comes down to timing...this year as I am sure you are aware every damn time we had a high sliding across Canada we never could time a storm with it

No blocking, atmosphere was very progressive...

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6 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

How do you interpret the phase 1 March MJO look? NE is warm while the SE is cold. Is that "south based" blocking?

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Also, all three ensemble suites look nothing like the above MJO plot.

I can only surmise that the La Nina forcing is altering the above charts. 

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