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Late February will be rocking. February Long range Discussion thread


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For the weekend- there is some weak vorticity moving along the boundary between the SE ridge and the colder air pressing in from the north. There will be a transient cold high to our north, so the possibility is there for at least some frozen. Biggest question is will there be enough forcing, and where. Right now it doesn't look like a big deal but there could be a little snow/mix in parts of our region.

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For the 28th, there is a signal for a storm, and the latest runs of the EPS and GEFS suggest an initial low tracking into the Ohio Valley and a secondary low developing off the MA coast. Among the members are a NW track, some with coastal redevelopment, while there are others with a low tracking west to east further south. The NAO is just transitioning to negative at this point and it looks like a significant piece of energy ejecting out of the western US trough. The tendency would be for a low to track to our NW, but with the HL pattern in a state of flux, there will be NS vortices flying around. Need a well timed one that flattens the flow ahead of the approaching low.

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15 hours ago, Terpeast said:

That’s the most surprising thing about this winter, imo. I fully expected a predominant cutter track but did not expect cold air to instantly vanish as soon as a wave creeped east of the rockies. Every single time. 

Here is your CAD event, its just 15 degrees warmer than needed!

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Even in a colder era, there were a few ratters like this one. It’s just happening more frequently now.  

Yea, I think the ratter part is also due to the jet stream being too far north and west as well. In colder years, we might still be battling the R/S line. That’ll be an interesting trend to watch the next few winters. In other news…speaking of jet stream, looks like a jet streak moving through tomorrow which could translate gusty winds to the surface (per LWX). This week’s weather definitely has late March vibes.
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Come on.. look at this pattern when/if the warm air breaks down. (as long as the epo is +, it's going to be rain. There is something called "snapping", where as our warm days busted warmer, conditions over Alaska trended colder in the upper atmosphere. After so much of that you sometimes get 5-10 days of -EPO or something. ) There is also that +EPO's last 7-13 days, and this one is going Feb 24-March 5 (10 days).

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12 minutes ago, IronTy said:

Man are we still waiting a couple more days for things to really start rocking?   I got all this firewood just waiting for the TPV to blow over us after the SSW that's signaled laurentian v2.  

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Hopefully it doesnt rot before you actually need it 6 or 7 years from now. With the models showing basically no cold air to speak of. You wont be needing it this year. 

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3 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

And look at that stout SER about to link up with the retrograding NAO. I'm afraid your March 8 period may be in trouble. I hope you nail it tho man.

This is actually what has been so damned frustrating to me.  Though not like I or anyone else can do anything about it of course.  Guidance has consistently shown a developing and impressive -NAO blocking signal, however, we continue to have that ever-present SE ridge.  It.  Just.  Won't.  Go.  Away!  Won't even recede for enough time for something good to happen.  So you end up with that linkage between SER and -NAO and we're screwed.  Yeah, a few times the models depicted some push-back against the SER and hints that we might get some decent chance at a decent event.  But then that idea disappears and the storm goes off well to our northwest.  Nothing is cutting through that SER, it seems, and not much squashing it enough either.  There's always a possibility that could change, especially with shortening wavelengths as we get into March.  Hopefully something can punch it down enough before we're getting up to the edge of realistic snow climo range.

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38 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Hopefully it doesnt rot before you actually need it 6 or 7 years from now. With the models showing basically no cold air to speak of. You wont be needing it this year. 

Maybe when the thermal haline circ finally shuts down and ushers in the next ice age....or at least a period of below normal temps.  Termites will have probably had their way with it before then though. 

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37 cords here and still working on the pile!

We do use it even in mild winters though.  I've been leaning on it harder considering the milder temps mainly due to the price of heating oil.  December was crazy.

And yes this will (probably) be the year for dreaded cold air damming through the end of May!  Have those tarps ready for the gardens!

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