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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Because of the cooling sea breeze?  Because it sure hasn't snowed here lol

 

For some reason, the low temperature rankings have been cooler at JFK relative to places like White Plains.

 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Dec through Feb
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Rank
Season
Mean Min Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2015-2016 34.0 0
2 2001-2002 33.6 0
3 2016-2017 33.2 0
4 1997-1998 33.0 0
5 2011-2012 32.7 0
- 1982-1983 32.7 0
6 2022-2023 32.6 13
7 1974-1975 32.3 0
8 1952-1953 32.2 0
9 2019-2020 32.1 0
10 1972-1973 31.6 0


 

Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY - Dec through Feb
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Rank
Season
Mean Min Temperature 
Missing Count
1 1997-1998 30.0 20
2 2022-2023 29.5 13
3 2015-2016 29.3 0
- 2001-2002 29.3 0
4 2011-2012 29.1 1
5 2016-2017 29.0 1
6 2019-2020 28.2 2
7 1952-1953 27.7 0
8 1998-1999 27.5 23
9 1996-1997 27.3 24
10 2012-2013 27.0 0
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1 minute ago, bluewave said:

For some reason, the low temperature rankings have been cooler at JFK relative to places like White Plains.

 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Season
Mean Min Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2015-2016 34.0 0
2 2001-2002 33.6 0
3 2016-2017 33.2 0
4 1997-1998 33.0 0
5 2011-2012 32.7 0
- 1982-1983 32.7 0
6 2022-2023 32.6 13
7 1974-1975 32.3 0
8 1952-1953 32.2 0
9 2019-2020 32.1 0
10 1972-1973 31.6 0


 

Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Season
Mean Min Temperature 
Missing Count
1 1997-1998 30.0 20
2 2022-2023 29.5 13
3 2015-2016 29.3 0
- 2001-2002 29.3 0
4 2011-2012 29.1 1
5 2016-2017 29.0 1
6 2019-2020 28.2 2
7 1952-1953 27.7 0
8 1998-1999 27.5 23
9 1996-1997 27.3 24
10 2012-2013 27.0 0

better radiational cooling-- I've seen this before

low humidity and clear skies, our temps drop

This isn't the case at Islip though?

Maybe they are more urbanized

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5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

better radiational cooling-- I've seen this before

low humidity and clear skies, our temps drop

This isn't the case at Islip though?

Maybe they are more urbanized

Not sure since White Plains radiates better than JFK and they were 2nd warmest for minimums this winter. 

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2 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

I was 26" below normal last year and will be ~48" below this year if it doesn't snow anymore. 

I think your further north. I believe we are reverting back to the pre 2000 pattern setup, which was more west coast trough east coast ridging. Now, that can work quite favorably for your area as you can get more coastal huggers, boundary setups. Coastal areas will be the opposite with more rain.

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3 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

New York City's snow season futility rankings through February 15th:

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We're going to blow past the other seasons. This year has been maximized to be really bad and this was with an "average" December too.

Imagine if December were really warm. 

We're also on track to have the earliest spring leaf out in history which could be disastrous if we get any brief arctic intrusions in March. 

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3 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

We're going to blow past the other seasons. This year has been maximized to be really bad and this was with an "average" December too.

Imagine if December were really warm. 

We're also on track to have the earliest spring leaf out in history which could be disastrous if we get any brief arctic intrusions in March. 

The record will all come down to the last few days of the month. If the cold push is a couple days earlier we lose the record. If it's a couple days later we get it.

It all comes down to timing.

 

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Most sites on Long Island are 60+ already except Montauk. Already exceeding the lower-end model forecasts for today. RGEM, HRDPS, HRRR had the right idea. HRRR has 71 later for ISP. Would be the all-time record. We'll see, we have clouds and the sea breeze which could easily prevent that

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32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

that late march fluke storm is what screwed it out of the lowest snowfall record, otherwise we would be competing with it instead

Did you look at how crazy snowfall amounts were in the 90s-- 3 out of 4 years with less than 10 inches of snow sandwiched by two historic years with over 50 inches each lol

 

It was just normal to me then because that's all I knew. That's partly what made the blizzard of 96 so epic. It truly felt like a once in a lifetime event, and was the only time many NYC students experienced a "snow day"...which turned out to be 3 I think." For people who's basis of normal is the 2000s, the bar is so high and the sting of dud winters feels even worse. When the unprecedented (at the time) 4 straight 40"+ winters came it was an era of snow heaven lol, but growing up in the 90s I was too scarred to get comfortable, it always felt like living on borrowed time. I enjoy it but try not to expect it.

After 95-96 winter, was the first time I noticed people getting snow blowers in the city, only for them to sit dormant the rest of the decade.

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42 minutes ago, dWave said:

It was just normal to me then because that's all I knew. That's partly what made the blizzard of 96 so epic. It truly felt like a once in a lifetime event, and was the only time many NYC students experienced a "snow day"...which turned out to be 3 I think." For people who's basis of normal is the 2000s, the bar is so high and the sting of dud winters feels even worse. When the unprecedented (at the time) 4 straight 40"+ winters came it was an era of snow heaven lol, but growing up in the 90s I was too scarred to get comfortable, it always felt like living on borrowed time. I enjoy it but try not to expect it.

After 95-96 winter, was the first time I noticed people getting snow blowers in the city, only for them to sit dormant the rest of the decade.

it really was a once in a lifetime event (until Jan 2016 lol)-- none of these other events in between those two or before or after measured up to me (except maybe February 1983).

The unchallenged greatest snowstorms (only 20"+ snowstorms here) in chronological order are:

February 1983

January 1996

PD  2 2003

January 2016

 

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