February 2023

[CIK62]

The next 8 days are averaging       46degs.(40/53) or +10.

Month to date is      37.0[+2.7].            Should be        41.0[+5.9] by the 19th.

Reached 58 here yesterday.

Today:     43-46, wind nw. to w., p. sunny, 38 tomorrow AM.

EURO TC's for the next 15 days are  a complete train wreck with just the WPO Neg. for a shot.       All others are the opposite of what we want.       Going to be another Top 10 Warm February.      There must be 10 of them with the ties since 1990.       Best chance for BN Day is the 18th.

26 Days Down and still waiting:      Ridge weakening and backing into the GOM where it better get flatten or else..........

38*(48%RH) here at 6am.       37* at 7am.       38* at 9am.      41* at Noon.      45* at 2pm.     47* at 4pm.     Reached 49* at 4pm.       44* at 5pm.        41* at 10pm.

[donsutherland1]

New York City's snow season futility rankings through February 10th: Winter 2022-2023 climbs to second place

[wdrag]

I guess interest has been dismissed for a part of the NYC subforum on the developing ECWS (mostly rain I95 coast).  Not I, not yet.  Going to be interesting... of concern to me using SREF/EC/GEFS...is the warm Canadian.  I usually favor the Canadian model... It's drifting slightly to a little more snow mix but not much. Outcome is of interest to me, as well as the NNW fringe MD-PA-NNJ-Boston area. Obviously it's rain where most members live... monitoring with interest as enough cold air seems to lurk along the nw fringe.  Could be a big GFS failure. Did notice latest 06z/11 EC is spraying a harmless r/sleet./snowmix to Philly now.  FGEN may play a significant role far nnw part of the 700MB low.

[MJO812]

1 minute ago, wdrag said:

I guess interest has been dismissed for a part of the NYC subforum on the developing ECWS (mostly rain I95 coast).  Not I, not yet.  Going to be interesting... of concern to me using SREF/EC/GEFS...is the warm Canadian.  I usually favor the Canadian model... It's drifting slightly to a little more snow mix but not much. Outcome is of interest to me, as well as the NNW fringe MD-PA-NNJ-Boston area. Obviously it's rain where most members live... monitoring with interest as enough cold air seems to lurk along the nw fringe.  Could be a big GFS failure. Did notice latest 06z/11 EC is spraying a harmless r/sleet./snowmix to Philly now.  FGEN may play a significant role far nnw part of the 700MB low.

Weekend storm will be nothing for the area 

[LoboLeader1]

Topped out at 61 here yesterday.

[donsutherland1]

Morning thoughts…

Today will be partly sunny, breezy, and cooler. High temperatures will reach the middle 40s in most areas. Likely high temperatures around the region include:

New York City (Central Park): 45°

Newark: 47°

Philadelphia: 47°

A storm passing well south of the region could bring some light rain and wind. Most of the rain will fall from New York City south and eastward.

Normals:

New York City: 30-Year: 41.4°; 15-Year: 41.4°

Newark: 30-Year: 42.1°; 15-Year: 42.2°

Philadelphia: 30-Year: 43.4°; 15-Year: 43.2°

[bluewave]

Top 5 warmest winter across the region with numerous +5 departures. So a record breaking 8 warmer than average winters in a row for places like NYC. A well defined winter pattern shift to warmer following the 15-16 super El Niño.

 

Rankings

 

Departures 

 

Northeast DJF averages and departures through 2022

[the_other_guy]

Central Park has two nights below freezing in the next 15.

I think other than some March pity snow it’s safe to say this winter is over.

[SnoSki14]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Top 5 warmest winter across the region with numerous +5 departures. So a record breaking 8 warmer than average winters in a row for places like NYC. A well defined winter pattern shift to warmer following the 15-16 super El Niño.

 

Rankings

 

Departures 

 

Northeast DJF averages and departures through 2022

I think it'll be #1 in most places given the warmth rest of Feb. 

Futility will beat out 01/02 as well

When all is said and done D-F will rank as the least snowy & warmest winter on record. 

[SACRUS]

Records:

 

Highs:
 

LGA: 63 (2009)
NYC: 65 (2009)
EWR: 66 (1960)

 

LOWS:
NYC: -2 (1899)
EWR: -1 (1979)
LGA: 2 (1979)

 

Historical:

1895: The low temperature was 11 degrees below zero at Moline, Illinois, marking the last of 16 consecutive days on which the low temperature was at or below zero. During the first 11 days of February, Moline's highest temperature was only 13 degrees above zero. Their current average high temperature for early February is in the lower 30s.

1899 - Perhaps the greatest of all arctic outbreaks commenced on this date. The temperature plunged to 61 degrees below zero in Montana. At the same time a "Great Eastern Blizzard" left a blanket of snow from Georgia to New Hampshire. The state of Virginia took the brunt of the storm, with snowfall totals averaging 30 to 40 inches. (David Ludlum)

1983 - The Middle Atlantic Coast States and southern New England were in the midst of a major snowstorm. In Pennsylvania, the storm produced 21 inches at Philadelphia, 24 inches at Harrisburg, and 25 inches at Allentown, establishing record 24 hour totals and single storm totals for those locations. New York City received 22 inches of snow, and 35 inches was reported at Glen Gary, located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of West Virginia. Windsor Locks CT received a record 19 inches of snow in 12 hours. The storm resulted in forty-six deaths, thirty-three of which occurred when a freighter capsized and sank off the Maryland/Virginia coast. Heavy snow was reported from northeastern Georgia to eastern Maine. (10th-12th) (Storm Data) (The Weather Channel)

1983: Called the "Megalopolitan blockbuster snowstorm," this major snowstorm impacted the Mid-Atlantic and southern New England. Snowfall up to 25 inches fell at Allentown, Pennsylvania. Snowfall amount of 35 inches occurred in parts of the Blue Ridge Mountains of West Virginia at Glen Cary. Windsor Locks, Connecticut, recorded a record 19 inches in 12 hours. A ship sunk off the Virginia/Maryland coast, killing 33. There were 46 total storm-related fatalities. New 24-hour snowfall records were set in Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Allentown, Pennsylvania, and Hartford, Connecticut. Five inches of snow in one hour was recorded at Allentown and Hartford.

1987 - Denver, CO, reported only their third occurrence of record of a thunderstorm in February. Ten cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Huron SD reported February temperatures averaging 19 degrees above normal. Williston ND reported readings averaging 24 degrees above normal for the month. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Bitter cold air gripped the north central U.S. Morning lows of 35 degrees below zero at Aberdeen SD, Bismarck ND and International Falls MN were records for the date. Bemidji MN was, officially, the cold spot in the nation with a low of 39 degrees below zero, however, a reading of 42 degrees below zero was reported at Gettysburg SD. In the Northern High Plains Region, Baker MT warmed from 27 degrees below zero to 40 above. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - While much of the continental U.S. enjoyed sunshine and seasonable temperatures, a strong weather system over the Hawaiian Islands deluged Honolulu with 2.5 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A winter storm produced up to ten inches of snow in Vermont, and up to nine inches of snow in Aroostook County of northeastern Maine. A three day snowstorm began to overspread Oregon, and the winter storm produced 29 inches of snow at Bennett Pass. Mild weather continued in the central U.S. La Crosse WI reported a record forty-seven consecutive days with temperatures above normal. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2004 - North Dakota Governor John Hoeven declares a snow emergency as winds gusting over 70 mph along with heavy snow produces low visibilities and drifts up to 20 feet in northwestern North Dakota. Amtrak train service is interrupted in the region. The Weather Doctor

2006 - Snowfall records fell in Philadelphia and Allentown, Pennsylvania, Bridgeport and Hartford, Connecticut, Newark, New Jersey, and Worchester and Boston, Massachusetts. The highest total reported was 30.2 inches at Fairfield, CT. New York City set a record one-day snowfall record of 26.9 inches in Central Park.

 

 

1983

[TWCCraig]

If NYC doesn't get 8 more freezes by the end of the month, this winter (Dec-Feb) will have the fewest number of minimum temperatures below 32 degrees on record. NYC has 24 so far

December through February

Rank	Season	Number of Days Min Temperature <= 32	Missing Count
1	2022-2023	24	18
2	1997-1998	32	0
3	2011-2012	33	0
4	2016-2017	35	0
-	2001-2002	35	0
6	2015-2016	36	0
7	2019-2020	38	0
-	1931-1932	38	0
9	1998-1999	41	0
10	1982-1983	42	0

 

If we count the whole season from fall to spring, 2012 looks tough to beat but top 5 is very possible

October 1st through May 10th

Rank	Ending Date	Number of Days Min Temperature <= 32 Oct 1 to May 10	Missing Count
1	2023-05-10	27	89
2	2012-05-10	37	0
3	2002-05-10	47	0
4	2020-05-10	48	0
-	2016-05-10	48	0
6	2017-05-10	49	0
-	1998-05-10	49	0
8	1999-05-10	52	0
9	1983-05-10	53	0
10	1991-05-10	54	0

[LibertyBell]

35 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Records:

 

Highs:
 

LGA: 63 (2009)
NYC: 65 (2009)
EWR: 66 (1960)

 

LOWS:
NYC: -2 (1899)
EWR: -1 (1979)
LGA: 2 (1979)

 

Historical:

1895: The low temperature was 11 degrees below zero at Moline, Illinois, marking the last of 16 consecutive days on which the low temperature was at or below zero. During the first 11 days of February, Moline's highest temperature was only 13 degrees above zero. Their current average high temperature for early February is in the lower 30s.

1899 - Perhaps the greatest of all arctic outbreaks commenced on this date. The temperature plunged to 61 degrees below zero in Montana. At the same time a "Great Eastern Blizzard" left a blanket of snow from Georgia to New Hampshire. The state of Virginia took the brunt of the storm, with snowfall totals averaging 30 to 40 inches. (David Ludlum)

1983 - The Middle Atlantic Coast States and southern New England were in the midst of a major snowstorm. In Pennsylvania, the storm produced 21 inches at Philadelphia, 24 inches at Harrisburg, and 25 inches at Allentown, establishing record 24 hour totals and single storm totals for those locations. New York City received 22 inches of snow, and 35 inches was reported at Glen Gary, located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of West Virginia. Windsor Locks CT received a record 19 inches of snow in 12 hours. The storm resulted in forty-six deaths, thirty-three of which occurred when a freighter capsized and sank off the Maryland/Virginia coast. Heavy snow was reported from northeastern Georgia to eastern Maine. (10th-12th) (Storm Data) (The Weather Channel)

1983: Called the "Megalopolitan blockbuster snowstorm," this major snowstorm impacted the Mid-Atlantic and southern New England. Snowfall up to 25 inches fell at Allentown, Pennsylvania. Snowfall amount of 35 inches occurred in parts of the Blue Ridge Mountains of West Virginia at Glen Cary. Windsor Locks, Connecticut, recorded a record 19 inches in 12 hours. A ship sunk off the Virginia/Maryland coast, killing 33. There were 46 total storm-related fatalities. New 24-hour snowfall records were set in Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Allentown, Pennsylvania, and Hartford, Connecticut. Five inches of snow in one hour was recorded at Allentown and Hartford.

1987 - Denver, CO, reported only their third occurrence of record of a thunderstorm in February. Ten cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Huron SD reported February temperatures averaging 19 degrees above normal. Williston ND reported readings averaging 24 degrees above normal for the month. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Bitter cold air gripped the north central U.S. Morning lows of 35 degrees below zero at Aberdeen SD, Bismarck ND and International Falls MN were records for the date. Bemidji MN was, officially, the cold spot in the nation with a low of 39 degrees below zero, however, a reading of 42 degrees below zero was reported at Gettysburg SD. In the Northern High Plains Region, Baker MT warmed from 27 degrees below zero to 40 above. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - While much of the continental U.S. enjoyed sunshine and seasonable temperatures, a strong weather system over the Hawaiian Islands deluged Honolulu with 2.5 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A winter storm produced up to ten inches of snow in Vermont, and up to nine inches of snow in Aroostook County of northeastern Maine. A three day snowstorm began to overspread Oregon, and the winter storm produced 29 inches of snow at Bennett Pass. Mild weather continued in the central U.S. La Crosse WI reported a record forty-seven consecutive days with temperatures above normal. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2004 - North Dakota Governor John Hoeven declares a snow emergency as winds gusting over 70 mph along with heavy snow produces low visibilities and drifts up to 20 feet in northwestern North Dakota. Amtrak train service is interrupted in the region. The Weather Doctor

2006 - Snowfall records fell in Philadelphia and Allentown, Pennsylvania, Bridgeport and Hartford, Connecticut, Newark, New Jersey, and Worchester and Boston, Massachusetts. The highest total reported was 30.2 inches at Fairfield, CT. New York City set a record one-day snowfall record of 26.9 inches in Central Park.

 

 

1983

1983 blizzard dropped 2 feet of snow at JFK, the benchmark storm of my childhood!

[bluewave]

45 minutes ago, TWCCraig said:

onth, this winter (Dec-Feb) will have the fewest number of minimum temperatures below 32 degrees on record. NYC has 24 so far

The Caribou, Maine version of that record is only 26 days reaching 10° or lower which is currently the lowest and behind 09-10 by 6 days.

 

Time Series Summary for Caribou Area, ME (ThreadEx) - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Season	Number of Days Min Temperature <= 10	Missing Count
1	2022-2023	26	18
2	2009-2010	32	0
3	2015-2016	37	0
-	1938-1939	37	46
4	2020-2021	38	0
5	2001-2002	39	0
6	1939-1940	43	26
7	1950-1951	45	0
8	1953-1954	47	0
9	1996-1997	48	0
-	1968-1969	48	0
-	1959-1960	48	0
10	2016-2017	49	0
-	2012-2013	49	0
-	2005-2006	49	0
-	1998-1999	49

 

[JustinRP37]

This winter is cooked. Now let's see how many local ski areas remain open by 3/15. 

[vegan_edible]

we're gonna get em next year. lets all hope for a december snowfall

[donsutherland1]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

I think it'll be #1 in most places given the warmth rest of Feb. 

Futility will beat out 01/02 as well

When all is said and done D-F will rank as the least snowy & warmest winter on record. 

There was a big increase in the expected February mean temperature on the sensitivity analysis of the guidance. This hints that some of the long-range modeling has backed off a dramatic turn toward colder conditions in late February. Perhaps the shift to near normal readings on the week 3 ECMWF guidance might be reasonable? Skill scores are low at that range, but the magnitude of the shift toward a warmer monthly figure is not common.  This development also raises questions about some of the cold/snowy March analogs being pushed on Twitter. Let’s see if there’s continuity in coming days.

[EastonSN+]

2 hours ago, the_other_guy said:

Central Park has two nights below freezing in the next 15.

I think other than some March pity snow it’s safe to say this winter is over.

That sums up 97/98

[EastonSN+]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

I think it'll be #1 in most places given the warmth rest of Feb. 

Futility will beat out 01/02 as well

When all is said and done D-F will rank as the least snowy & warmest winter on record. 

Records are made to be broken.

I would put money on us breaking 95/96 in the next 10 years.

With the same setup and warmer ocean temps, the same storms would have more juice and therefore higher amounts.

[Brian5671]

33 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

This winter is cooked. Now let's see how many local ski areas remain open by 3/15. 

most will close by then simply b/c the clocks will go ahead and people's attention turn to other activities-no snow in people's backyards really hurts too...that's often a motivator to ski.

[bluewave]

14 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Records are made to be broken.

I would put money on us breaking 95/96 in the next 10 years.

With the same setup and warmer ocean temps, the same storms would have more juice and therefore higher amounts.

I think 95-96 will be too tough to beat since we haven’t had wall to wall snow and cold from late November into early April since then. 10-11 was the only season that could have made a challenge but the snows cut off too early at the start of February. Most of our snowy years since 10-11 only had big snows over 1-3 months. Warming winters mean shorter duration snowy intervals. So 75” in NYC and near 90” on Long Island will hard to replicate without more extensive cold and more favorable Pacific patterns.

[brooklynwx99]

23 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Records are made to be broken.

I would put money on us breaking 95/96 in the next 10 years.

With the same setup and warmer ocean temps, the same storms would have more juice and therefore higher amounts.

I could see us getting blitzed in the same way that the West has once we get a legit +ENSO event and the tropical forcing shifts eastward. wouldn't make sense to think otherwise. the last time we had a legit El Nino, we had 30" in 2 days, and there was 2013-14 and 2009-10

the band is going to snap back the other way and it's going to be great. not happening this year, of course. hopefully next!

[EastonSN+]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

I think 95-96 will be too tough to beat since we haven’t had wall to wall snow and cold from late November into early April since then. 10-11 was the only season that could have made a challenge but the snows cut off too early at the start of February. Most of our snowy years since 10-11 only had big snows over 1-3 months. Warming winters mean shorter duration snowy intervals. So 75” in NYC and near 90” on Long Island will hard to replicate without more extensive cold and more favorable Pacific patterns.

How about a 13/14 setup? That March with all the suppression could nail us.

Perhaps we beat the record the same way Boston did, a 6 week torrid stretch 

I feel like 13/14 gets overlooked too often. We could have challenged 95/96 if March wasn't too suppressive.

[EastonSN+]

Question. Why can't we have a wall to wall season like 95/96

I'm the past 6 years we have had accumulating snows in both November and April. Even a Dusting in May.

May be slightly harder but not impossible. We just need a static favorable pattern. They are relatively rare but they happen.

[bluewave]

8 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

How about a 14/15 setup? That March with all the suppression could nail us.

Perhaps we beat the record the same way Boston did, a 6 week torrid stretch 

14-15 got started too late and the best snows were in New England that year. Plus it was our last cold winter here. NYC can’t make it past 50” without a colder winter. So even 50” will remain out of reach for NYC with these warmer winters since 15-16.

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	Season
1995-1996	0.0	2.9	11.5	26.1	21.2	13.2	0.7	75.6
1947-1948	0.0	T	30.2	15.3	13.6	4.8	0.0	63.9
2010-2011	0.0	T	20.1	36.0	4.8	1.0	T	61.9
1922-1923	0.0	1.0	8.0	24.5	18.8	8.1	T	60.4
1872-1873	0.0	3.5	26.8	10.6	18.9	0.4	0.0	60.2
2013-2014	0.0	T	8.6	19.7	29.0	0.1	T	57.4
1874-1875	0.0	T	10.1	14.5	4.5	13.8	13.5	56.4
1898-1899	0.0	19.0	1.5	5.3	25.3	4.8	0.0	55.9
1960-1961	T	0.0	18.6	16.7	18.2	1.2	T	54.7
1993-1994	0.0	T	6.9	12.0	26.4	8.1	0.0	53.4
1906-1907	0.0	1.0	0.3	11.0	21.8	13.3	5.8	53.2
1933-1934	0.0	0.5	14.9	0.1	27.9	8.6	0.0	52.0
1966-1967	0.0	0.0	9.1	1.4	23.6	17.4	T	51.5
2009-2010	0.0	0.0	12.4	2.1	36.9	T	0.0	51.4
1977-1978	0.0	0.2	0.4	20.3	23.0	6.8	T	50.7
1916-1917	0.0	T	14.5	5.8	12.2	11.7	6.5	50.7
1915-1916	0.0	T	8.1	0.7	13.1	25.5	3.3	50.7
2014-2015	0.0	0.2	1.0	16.9	13.6	18.6	0.0	50.3

[LibertyBell]

40 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

There was a big increase in the expected February mean temperature on the sensitivity analysis of the guidance. This hints that some of the long-range modeling has backed off a dramatic turn toward colder conditions in late February. Perhaps the shift to near normal readings on the week 3 ECMWF guidance might be reasonable? Skill scores are low at that range, but the magnitude of the shift toward a warmer monthly figure is not common.  This development also raises questions about some of the cold/snowy March analogs being pushed on Twitter. Let’s see if there’s continuity in coming days.

so that 40 mean for February could come to fruition and aside from 97/98 the only other season with both January and February above 40 mean temperature?

 

[EastonSN+]

5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

14-15 got started too late and the best snows were in New England that year. Plus it was our last cold winter here. NYC can’t make it past 50” without a colder winter. So even 50” will remain out of reach for NYC with these warmer winters since 15-16.

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	Season
1995-1996	0.0	2.9	11.5	26.1	21.2	13.2	0.7	75.6
1947-1948	0.0	T	30.2	15.3	13.6	4.8	0.0	63.9
2010-2011	0.0	T	20.1	36.0	4.8	1.0	T	61.9
1922-1923	0.0	1.0	8.0	24.5	18.8	8.1	T	60.4
1872-1873	0.0	3.5	26.8	10.6	18.9	0.4	0.0	60.2
2013-2014	0.0	T	8.6	19.7	29.0	0.1	T	57.4
1874-1875	0.0	T	10.1	14.5	4.5	13.8	13.5	56.4
1898-1899	0.0	19.0	1.5	5.3	25.3	4.8	0.0	55.9
1960-1961	T	0.0	18.6	16.7	18.2	1.2	T	54.7
1993-1994	0.0	T	6.9	12.0	26.4	8.1	0.0	53.4
1906-1907	0.0	1.0	0.3	11.0	21.8	13.3	5.8	53.2
1933-1934	0.0	0.5	14.9	0.1	27.9	8.6	0.0	52.0
1966-1967	0.0	0.0	9.1	1.4	23.6	17.4	T	51.5
2009-2010	0.0	0.0	12.4	2.1	36.9	T	0.0	51.4
1977-1978	0.0	0.2	0.4	20.3	23.0	6.8	T	50.7
1916-1917	0.0	T	14.5	5.8	12.2	11.7	6.5	50.7
1915-1916	0.0	T	8.1	0.7	13.1	25.5	3.3	50.7
2014-2015	0.0	0.2	1.0	16.9	13.6	18.6	0.0	50.3

I guess my question is, why can't a setup like 13/14 happen again? PV stuck on our side? March less suppressive could have broken the record.

 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

14-15 got started too late and the best snows were in New England that year. Plus it was our last cold winter here. NYC can’t make it past 50” without a colder winter. So even 50” will remain out of reach for NYC with these warmer winters since 15-16.

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	Season
1995-1996	0.0	2.9	11.5	26.1	21.2	13.2	0.7	75.6
1947-1948	0.0	T	30.2	15.3	13.6	4.8	0.0	63.9
2010-2011	0.0	T	20.1	36.0	4.8	1.0	T	61.9
1922-1923	0.0	1.0	8.0	24.5	18.8	8.1	T	60.4
1872-1873	0.0	3.5	26.8	10.6	18.9	0.4	0.0	60.2
2013-2014	0.0	T	8.6	19.7	29.0	0.1	T	57.4
1874-1875	0.0	T	10.1	14.5	4.5	13.8	13.5	56.4
1898-1899	0.0	19.0	1.5	5.3	25.3	4.8	0.0	55.9
1960-1961	T	0.0	18.6	16.7	18.2	1.2	T	54.7
1993-1994	0.0	T	6.9	12.0	26.4	8.1	0.0	53.4
1906-1907	0.0	1.0	0.3	11.0	21.8	13.3	5.8	53.2
1933-1934	0.0	0.5	14.9	0.1	27.9	8.6	0.0	52.0
1966-1967	0.0	0.0	9.1	1.4	23.6	17.4	T	51.5
2009-2010	0.0	0.0	12.4	2.1	36.9	T	0.0	51.4
1977-1978	0.0	0.2	0.4	20.3	23.0	6.8	T	50.7
1916-1917	0.0	T	14.5	5.8	12.2	11.7	6.5	50.7
1915-1916	0.0	T	8.1	0.7	13.1	25.5	3.3	50.7
2014-2015	0.0	0.2	1.0	16.9	13.6	18.6	0.0	50.3

This is why 50" is considered historic.

40" is very good but 50" is a whole other level

we got 50" in 02-03 too, I loved that winter....I think JFK got to 56-57 inches of snow.

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, EastonSN+ said:

I guess my question is, why can't a setup like 13/14 happen again? PV stuck on our side? March less suppressive could have broken the record.

 

to break the record you need a wall to wall winter like 95-96 or 02-03

 

[LibertyBell]

13 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

How about a 13/14 setup? That March with all the suppression could nail us.

Perhaps we beat the record the same way Boston did, a 6 week torrid stretch 

I feel like 13/14 gets overlooked too often. We could have challenged 95/96 if March wasn't too suppressive.

too much mixed precip in 13-14

that was more like 93-94

coast wont break records in that pattern

 

[EastonSN+]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

to break the record you need a wall to wall winter like 95-96 or 02-03

 

Boston broke theirs in 6 weeks. Was a terrible winter for them outside of that. Also 13/14 was as close to wall to wall as you can get and may have broken the record if not for the March suppression.