bluewave Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:43 PM, LibertyBell said: Because of the cooling sea breeze? Because it sure hasn't snowed here lol Expand For some reason, the low temperature rankings have been cooler at JFK relative to places like White Plains. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Dec through FebClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Mean Min Temperature Missing Count 1 2015-2016 34.0 0 2 2001-2002 33.6 0 3 2016-2017 33.2 0 4 1997-1998 33.0 0 5 2011-2012 32.7 0 - 1982-1983 32.7 0 6 2022-2023 32.6 13 7 1974-1975 32.3 0 8 1952-1953 32.2 0 9 2019-2020 32.1 0 10 1972-1973 31.6 0 Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY - Dec through FebClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Mean Min Temperature Missing Count 1 1997-1998 30.0 20 2 2022-2023 29.5 13 3 2015-2016 29.3 0 - 2001-2002 29.3 0 4 2011-2012 29.1 1 5 2016-2017 29.0 1 6 2019-2020 28.2 2 7 1952-1953 27.7 0 8 1998-1999 27.5 23 9 1996-1997 27.3 24 10 2012-2013 27.0 0 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:48 PM, donsutherland1 said: For reference: Expand JFK not on this list Don? I think we'll get this record too Record high is in the mid 70s though? I hope it stays sunny through at least early to mid afternoon maybe we could see 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:50 PM, bluewave said: For some reason, the low temperature rankings have been cooler at JFK relative to places like White Plains. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Dec through FebClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Mean Min Temperature Missing Count 1 2015-2016 34.0 0 2 2001-2002 33.6 0 3 2016-2017 33.2 0 4 1997-1998 33.0 0 5 2011-2012 32.7 0 - 1982-1983 32.7 0 6 2022-2023 32.6 13 7 1974-1975 32.3 0 8 1952-1953 32.2 0 9 2019-2020 32.1 0 10 1972-1973 31.6 0 Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY - Dec through FebClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Mean Min Temperature Missing Count 1 1997-1998 30.0 20 2 2022-2023 29.5 13 3 2015-2016 29.3 0 - 2001-2002 29.3 0 4 2011-2012 29.1 1 5 2016-2017 29.0 1 6 2019-2020 28.2 2 7 1952-1953 27.7 0 8 1998-1999 27.5 23 9 1996-1997 27.3 24 10 2012-2013 27.0 0 Expand better radiational cooling-- I've seen this before low humidity and clear skies, our temps drop This isn't the case at Islip though? Maybe they are more urbanized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:50 PM, LibertyBell said: JFK not on this list Don? I think we'll get this record too Record high is in the mid 70s though? I hope it stays sunny through at least early to mid afternoon maybe we could see 70 Expand The morning low at JFK was 43°, which was below the daily record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:52 PM, donsutherland1 said: The morning low at JFK was 43°, which was below the daily record. Expand wow radiational cooling with clear skies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:49 PM, LibertyBell said: last winter was actually not bad, it was about normal for here Expand Yeah the further SE the better last year. I was over 8 inches below normal up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:52 PM, donsutherland1 said: The morning low at JFK was 43°, which was below the daily record. Expand Don was the record at JFK, 44 from 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:53 PM, EastonSN+ said: Yeah the further SE the better last year. I was over 8 inches below normal up here. Expand yup Jersey shore down to ACY did better too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:53 PM, EastonSN+ said: Yeah the further SE the better last year. I was over 8 inches below normal up here. Expand I was 26" below normal last year and will be ~48" below this year if it doesn't snow anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:54 PM, LibertyBell said: Don was the record at JFK, 44 from 2002? Expand It was 44° in 1984. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:51 PM, LibertyBell said: better radiational cooling-- I've seen this before low humidity and clear skies, our temps drop This isn't the case at Islip though? Maybe they are more urbanized Expand Not sure since White Plains radiates better than JFK and they were 2nd warmest for minimums this winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:55 PM, gravitylover said: I was 26" below normal last year and will be ~48" below this year if it doesn't snow anymore. Expand I think your further north. I believe we are reverting back to the pre 2000 pattern setup, which was more west coast trough east coast ridging. Now, that can work quite favorably for your area as you can get more coastal huggers, boundary setups. Coastal areas will be the opposite with more rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 10:57 AM, donsutherland1 said: New York City's snow season futility rankings through February 15th: Expand We're going to blow past the other seasons. This year has been maximized to be really bad and this was with an "average" December too. Imagine if December were really warm. We're also on track to have the earliest spring leaf out in history which could be disastrous if we get any brief arctic intrusions in March. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 At 9 am, Islip had a reading of 61°. That breaks the daily record of 59°, which was set in 1976 and tied in 2018. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 2:01 PM, SnoSki14 said: We're going to blow past the other seasons. This year has been maximized to be really bad and this was with an "average" December too. Imagine if December were really warm. We're also on track to have the earliest spring leaf out in history which could be disastrous if we get any brief arctic intrusions in March. Expand The record will all come down to the last few days of the month. If the cold push is a couple days earlier we lose the record. If it's a couple days later we get it. It all comes down to timing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Most sites on Long Island are 60+ already except Montauk. Already exceeding the lower-end model forecasts for today. RGEM, HRDPS, HRRR had the right idea. HRRR has 71 later for ISP. Would be the all-time record. We'll see, we have clouds and the sea breeze which could easily prevent that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 64 now off a low of 53… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I’m at 57 at the moment. About the same in Hillside (west of Newark). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:42 PM, LibertyBell said: that late march fluke storm is what screwed it out of the lowest snowfall record, otherwise we would be competing with it instead Did you look at how crazy snowfall amounts were in the 90s-- 3 out of 4 years with less than 10 inches of snow sandwiched by two historic years with over 50 inches each lol Expand It was just normal to me then because that's all I knew. That's partly what made the blizzard of 96 so epic. It truly felt like a once in a lifetime event, and was the only time many NYC students experienced a "snow day"...which turned out to be 3 I think." For people who's basis of normal is the 2000s, the bar is so high and the sting of dud winters feels even worse. When the unprecedented (at the time) 4 straight 40"+ winters came it was an era of snow heaven lol, but growing up in the 90s I was too scarred to get comfortable, it always felt like living on borrowed time. I enjoy it but try not to expect it. After 95-96 winter, was the first time I noticed people getting snow blowers in the city, only for them to sit dormant the rest of the decade. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 65 now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Man the south shore of Suffolk is roasting with this west wind. 67-68 already out there…LI special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Yeah, 65 here too. It feels glorious, ngl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 ISP at 69 Officially breaks the all-time warmest February temp on record. Original record was 68 set last year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 Wow not even 60 here yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 3:03 PM, TWCCraig said: ISP at 69 Officially breaks the all-time warmest February temp on record. Original record was 68 set last year Expand The old record of 68 was set on February 17, 1976 and tied on February 23, 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 2:32 PM, dWave said: It was just normal to me then because that's all I knew. That's partly what made the blizzard of 96 so epic. It truly felt like a once in a lifetime event, and was the only time many NYC students experienced a "snow day"...which turned out to be 3 I think." For people who's basis of normal is the 2000s, the bar is so high and the sting of dud winters feels even worse. When the unprecedented (at the time) 4 straight 40"+ winters came it was an era of snow heaven lol, but growing up in the 90s I was too scarred to get comfortable, it always felt like living on borrowed time. I enjoy it but try not to expect it. After 95-96 winter, was the first time I noticed people getting snow blowers in the city, only for them to sit dormant the rest of the decade. Expand it really was a once in a lifetime event (until Jan 2016 lol)-- none of these other events in between those two or before or after measured up to me (except maybe February 1983). The unchallenged greatest snowstorms (only 20"+ snowstorms here) in chronological order are: February 1983 January 1996 PD 2 2003 January 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 3:14 PM, donsutherland1 said: The old record of 68 was set on February 17, 1976 and tied on February 23, 2022. Expand It's getting close to 70 here too and full sunshine the SE Ridge is going to hold back clouds until after peak heating so we should all hit 70 today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 3:03 PM, EasternLI said: Yeah, 65 here too. It feels glorious, ngl. Expand yup approaching 70 here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 2:48 PM, psv88 said: Man the south shore of Suffolk is roasting with this west wind. 67-68 already out there…LI special Expand this would be 100 in July I love the west wind! we should hit 70 here soon with all this sunshine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 1:58 PM, donsutherland1 said: It was 44° in 1984. Expand well it certainly rose really quickly, we see this in the summer too with west winds after a night of radiational cooling 70 within reach here now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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