FXWX Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Tough to wrap your mind around just how insane the positive temp anomaly was for January. It has been stated a few times already, but it was just a constant mild day after mild day setup. Nothing excessively warm, but always above normal. Many Januarys feature a thaw period with max temps that beat anything we saw this past January. BDL has a top January 2023 temp of 56... Most good old fashioned January thaws would beat that... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, FXWX said: It has been stated a few times already, but it was just a constant mild day after mild day setup. Nothing excessively warm, but always above normal. Many Januarys feature a thaw period with max temps that beat anything we saw this past January. BDL has a top January 2023 temp of 56... Most good old fashioned January thaws would beat that... BDL was "only" +7.7 on the max temps. But they were like +11.5 on the min temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: I can't tell you how many people I know that WISH they had never gone the solar route...numerous solar companies have been sued by state attorney general in numerous states. I use revisions in New Hampshire and I can tell you it was one of the best investments we’ve made. Sorry to hear of others’ problems but everyone I know is very pleased with theirs’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, FPizz said: My solar system has been having issues for 28 months now. When working, it is amazing. But overall getting any issues fixed is a gigantic headache, with this one going on for 2+ years. Hopefully you didn't use a Sunpower company, that's all i will say. Defective Solar Panels Class Action Lawsuit | Defective Product Lawyers (bergermontague.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: I use revisions in New Hampshire and I can tell you it was one of the best investments we’ve made. Sorry to hear of others’ problems but everyone I know is very pleased with theirs’ Google solar power/panel company lawsuits.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: I can't tell you how many people I know that WISH they had never gone the solar route...numerous solar companies have been sued by state attorney general in numerous states. And I know many who have it and say the complete opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: BDL was "only" +7.7 on the max temps. But they were like +11.5 on the min temps. Here our +9.1 combined +5.5 on highs and +12.7 on lows. 2006, the 2nd mildest January, had minima +8.6. Jan 2023 mornings were just at another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: And I know many who have it and say the complete opposite. good for them BUT there are plenty of solar polar customers who had to resort to taking legal action against solar power companies...it is impossible to keep track of all of the lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Google solar power/panel company lawsuits.... It would take a lifetime to just scratch the surface! They REALLY don't want you to know, but there's too many issues to hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: And I know many who have it and say the complete opposite. This is true, but it isn't easy for the average person to vet a company or product when the majority of the American public has the attention span of a two year old. There's way more bad then good right now, and lots of unlicenced people somehow getting away with doing installs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, UnitedWx said: This is true, but it isn't easy for the average person to vet a company or product when the majority of the American public has the attention span of a two year old. There's way more bad then good right now, and lots of unlicenced people somehow getting away with doing installs This sounds like an old man fossil fuel POV lol. Just do your HW. Ask the questions etc. I know plenty who are happy and don't have issues. If you look hard enough with anything, you'll always find problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, UnitedWx said: This is true, but it isn't easy for the average person to vet a company or product when the majority of the American public has the attention span of a two year old. There's way more bad then good right now, and lots of unlicenced people somehow getting away with doing installs While in college I had a professor/lawyer for a tax law course he always stressed reading the fine print of a contract before signing the contract. And he stressed having a lawyer read the contract. That remains some of the best advice I have ever received. The majority of the American public can barely read and understand a text/tweet..reading comprehension is a lost art...as is taking the time to read. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: While in college I had a professor/lawyer for a tax law course he always stressed reading the fine print of a contract before signing the contract. And he stressed having a lawyer read the contract. That remains some of the best advice I have ever received. The majority of the American public can barely read and understand a text/tweet..reading comprehension is a lost art...as is taking the time to read. That's because you have ruined society with memes. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, FPizz said: My solar system has been having issues for 28 months now. When working, it is amazing. But overall getting any issues fixed is a gigantic headache, with this one going on for 2+ years. Hopefully you didn't use a Sunpower company, that's all i will say. 14 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: I use revisions in New Hampshire and I can tell you it was one of the best investments we’ve made. Sorry to hear of others’ problems but everyone I know is very pleased with theirs’ 8 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: And I know many who have it and say the complete opposite. We had Sunpower panels installed. I did so much research before choosing a manufacturer/installer. Sadly solar is just like any other technology investment (cars/stoves/hvac/etc). Flip a coin and hopefully you get the product that doesn't fail because they all can. And if it does, hopefully the installer/manufacturer/retailer stands by their product. There is no perfect choice. I purchased a brand new Jeep years back, the thing was in the shop 4 times, in 3 months ($50k at the time, more than my panels/roof combined) the thing didn't produce any electric, drove me places and ate gas). The dealership stood by their product and helped me along, every step of the way until it was fixed for good, other dealerships might not have been so eager to help. For 18 months my system has worked flawlessly, Sunpower even cut me a check for under production in the first year, the fault of extra clouds, not their system. I haven't had an electric bill in 17 months. My average electric bill before the rate hike was roughly what my monthly payment is for the panels which will be paid off in 7.5 years. No complaints here, sorry to those that have. Iphones to lawnmowers have a failure rate, yet we still buy them. It just sucks when we get become part of those statistics..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: That's because you have ruined society with memes. Gee I would have tried harder if I had known the entirety of society was able to read my posts on AMWX.....why did you not inform me sooner???...sooooooo disappointed in you!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: BDL was "only" +7.7 on the max temps. But they were like +11.5 on the min temps. Overnight mins have been the story for several winters now... Used to be very common to fall into low to mid teens years ago... Now it's a challenge for consistent overnight lows in the teens across SNE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, FXWX said: Overnight mins have been the story for several winters now... Used to be very common to fall into low to mid teens years ago... Now it's a challenge for consistent overnight lows in the teens across SNE... correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, FXWX said: Overnight mins have been the story for several winters now... Used to be very common to fall into low to mid teens years ago... Now it's a challenge for consistent overnight lows in the teens across SNE... Yeah it’s been really noticeable the past few winters…really since the localized shift in 2019 it seems. The northeast has been an island of furnace since then while all the cold is dumping well west. You could argue it started after the 2014-15 winter, but we still had some good decently long periods of cold in ‘17-18 and ‘18-19. It’s like pulling teeth since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: While in college I had a professor/lawyer for a tax law course he always stressed reading the fine print of a contract before signing the contract. And he stressed having a lawyer read the contract. That remains some of the best advice I have ever received. The majority of the American public can barely read and understand a text/tweet..reading comprehension is a lost art...as is taking the time to read. That's why I wanted a copy of our home mortgage agreement before closing so I could review it. Broker thought I was weird, but it isn't his dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah it’s been really noticeable the past few winters…really since the localized shift in 2019 it seems. The northeast has been an island of furnace since then while all the cold is dumping well west. You could argue it started after the 2014-15 winter, but we still had some good decently long periods of cold in ‘17-18 and ‘18-19. It’s like pulling teeth since then. I think this will change as we get tropical forcing to shift during a Nino, hopefully next year. the MJO "wants" to be in 4-5-6 since it positively feeds back onto the tropical forcing and dies once into 7-8-1 due to destructive interference with ENSO. once into a Nino, we'll see the tropical forcing move E, encouraging an Aleutian Low and riding into AK and the WC... Phases 7-8-1 will finally be easier to obtain due to positive feedback once we do get that Nino base state, I would expect much of the cold to dump into the Plains and East rather than West and Rockies. we've had 5 Ninas in the last 7 years lmao something has to give there. I don't think any of this is permanent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, UnitedWx said: That's why I wanted a copy of our home mortgage agreement before closing so I could review it. Broker thought I was weird, but it isn't his dime. Smart of you to do so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I think the most frustrating part of this winter is how quickly the moisture train disappears as soon as the cold air shows up and vise versa. I mentioned early on, in November perhaps how this season started off with the warm/wet, cold/dry vibe. It hasn't veered from that yet, months later.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: This sounds like an old man fossil fuel POV lol. Just do your HW. Ask the questions etc. I know plenty who are happy and don't have issues. If you look hard enough with anything, you'll always find problems. Well no, but I guess I understand your point. This comes from a licensed electrician who see these issues fairly regularly. And you're absolutely right, a couple of my guys have solar and love it, but did lots of homework first. "Just do your HW" is the problem... like I said attention span of two year olds. They are the people that have the issues. Their fault sure, but when many of the companies sales pitches are more akin to a scam it can be hard for some to tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, brooklynwx99 said: I think this will change as we get tropical forcing to shift during a Nino, hopefully next year. the MJO "wants" to be in 4-5-6 since it positively feeds back onto the tropical forcing and dies once into 7-8-1 due to destructive interference with ENSO once we do get that Nino base state, I would expect much of the cold to dump into the Plains and East rather than West and Rockies. we've had 5 Ninas in the last 7 years lmao something has to give there Yeah maybe. It’s weird though because we got pretty damned cold (with plenty of snow to boot) in the previous Niña base state from 2007-2013. But this one has definitely been different…a lot more +AO and when we do happen to get Atlantic blocking, it just hasn’t been able to trap PV underneath it in SE Canada ala years winters like 2010-2011. We’ve had two useless blocking episodes in the past 3 winters (one this past December and then another the first few weeks of January 2021…that one did reload at least and become useful in Feb 2021). But hopefully we can shake it up for next winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, UnitedWx said: Well no, but I guess I understand your point. This comes from a licensed electrician who see these issues fairly regularly. And you're absolutely right, a couple of my guys have solar and love it, but did lots of homework first. "Just do your HW" is the problem... like I said attention span of two year olds. They are the people that have the issues. Their fault sure, but when many of the companies sales pitches are more akin to a scam it can be hard for some to tell. ..and that has led to a plethora of lawsuits across the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: This sounds like an old man fossil fuel POV lol. Just do your HW. Ask the questions etc. I know plenty who are happy and don't have issues. If you look hard enough with anything, you'll always find problems. How's your solar system working? Do you like your EV car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: How's your solar system working? Do you like your EV car? I would get solar if I could. Need to remove a tree and take care of other stuff first. It's not a priority for me at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, Spanks45 said: We had Sunpower panels installed. I did so much research before choosing a manufacturer/installer. Sadly solar is just like any other technology investment (cars/stoves/hvac/etc). Flip a coin and hopefully you get the product that doesn't fail because they all can. And if it does, hopefully the installer/manufacturer/retailer stands by their product. There is no perfect choice. I purchased a brand new Jeep years back, the thing was in the shop 4 times, in 3 months ($50k at the time, more than my panels/roof combined) the thing didn't produce any electric, drove me places and ate gas). The dealership stood by their product and helped me along, every step of the way until it was fixed for good, other dealerships might not have been so eager to help. For 18 months my system has worked flawlessly, Sunpower even cut me a check for under production in the first year, the fault of extra clouds, not their system. I haven't had an electric bill in 17 months. My average electric bill before the rate hike was roughly what my monthly payment is for the panels which will be paid off in 7.5 years. No complaints here, sorry to those that have. Iphones to lawnmowers have a failure rate, yet we still buy them. It just sucks when we get become part of those statistics..... I bought my house with the panels on, 68 of them, and the system was only 3 years old (prior owner paid $39k for them up front, I paid a 1 time fee of $600 to "own" them). First issue was a squirrel bit through a wire. What should have been a quick fix took 6 months. This ongoing issue they first thought was an inverter, replaced it, then said it was my other inverter, replaced that and still not fixed, now they are doing a massive system check. All of this happened right before year 10, which was when the warranty ended. Now they are bringing the warranty issue up, but they never actually fixed the problem yet. Before then, I had zero bills for 6 years (minus the 1 issue) and was getting quarterly $1,000 dividend checks, even when using my electric pool heater set to 85 during the summer. Now I've been getting electric bills every month and no dividend checks, plus visits from techs cost $. Doing the math, I'm out several thousands of dollars if you take into losing those dividend checks along with the monthly bills and tech visits. Once you have a real issue, beware with Sunpower. Hopefully your romance period continues for the long haul with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: I think this will change as we get tropical forcing to shift during a Nino, hopefully next year. the MJO "wants" to be in 4-5-6 since it positively feeds back onto the tropical forcing and dies once into 7-8-1 due to destructive interference with ENSO. once into a Nino, we'll see the tropical forcing move E, encouraging an Aleutian Low and riding into AK and the WC... Phases 7-8-1 will finally be easier to obtain due to positive feedback once we do get that Nino base state, I would expect much of the cold to dump into the Plains and East rather than West and Rockies. we've had 5 Ninas in the last 7 years lmao something has to give there. I don't think any of this is permanent Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, FPizz said: I bought my house with the panels on, 68 of them, and the system was only 3 years old (prior owner paid $39k for them up front, I paid a 1 time fee of $600 to "own" them). First issue was a squirrel bit through a wire. What should have been a quick fix took 6 months. This ongoing issue they first thought was an inverter, replaced it, then said it was my other inverter, replaced that and still not fixed, now they are doing a massive system check. All of this happened right before year 10, which was when the warranty ended. Now they are bringing the warranty issue up, but they never actually fixed the problem yet. Before then, I had zero bills for 6 years (minus the 1 issue) and was getting quarterly $1,000 dividend checks, even when using my electric pool heater set to 85 during the summer. Now I've been getting electric bills every month and no dividend checks, plus visits from techs cost $. Doing the math, I'm out several thousands of dollars if you take into losing those dividend checks along with the monthly bills and tech visits. Once you have a real issue, beware with Sunpower. Hopefully your romance period continues for the long haul with no issues. Sunpower settled a class action lawsuit for issues with inverters. SunPower Defective Solar Panels $4.75M Class Action Settlement - Top Class Actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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