Cyclone-68 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Since I like to see records broken any possibility this winter ends up in the top 5 for snow futility anywhere in the region? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Dec '88 to March '92 enroute. We’re kind of almost getting there. I guess 2020-2021 interrupted the below normal streak here but other than that year, it’s been pretty shitty since 2017-18. I guess 2018-19 wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t good either. Esp with Dec 2018 being an epic turd for snowfall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Cyclone-68 said: Since I like to see records broken any possibility this winter ends up in the top 5 for snow futility anywhere in the region? It’s possible but unlikely imho. I think out of the major NWS BOX New England sites, PVD would have the best shot at a top 5 futility. They are currently sitting at 4.9 inches and would need to finish under 11.8 to get a top 5 futility badge. If we go south and include BDR, they would have the best shot. They are sitting at 0.8” and they need to finish below 9.3” for a top 5 futile season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Did NYC break their snowless streak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: Did NYC break their snowless streak? Yes, 0.4” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: Yes, 0.4” Congrats, I guess. A snowless winter would have been the better award. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said: Since I like to see records broken any possibility this winter ends up in the top 5 for snow futility anywhere in the region? BDL and ORH on well on track. Both need 4” or less from here on out to break all time snowless records. The way the pattern looks.. and pattern persistence in terms of how we’ve missed snowstorms this winter ..a betting man would place a lot of money on futility 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I’m sure it’s happened before but off the top of my head I can’t remember the first week in February ever not having at least one snow threat in the long range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: Yes, 0.4” 0.4” that sublimated before most even noticed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: 0.4” that sublimated before most even noticed? Yep pretty much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 We need to get weather betting at Encore Casino. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: We need to get weather betting at Encore Casino. Guess the next 1” snowfall in Boston: 2/10 +500 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We need to get weather betting at Encore Casino. I would have bet the house on the December Train not arriving.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Could be that I only took a quick glance, but the GFS did not look very warm for most of the 12z run....Of course there was no snow, but definitely not warm either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: I would have bet the house on the December Train not arriving.. Easy to say that now. Look at the h5 map and if you bet the house on it again, you’d be homeless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Easy to say that now. Look at the h5 map and if you bet the house on it again, you’d be homeless. Nope, I never bought into it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Cyclone-68 said: I’m sure it’s happened before but off the top of my head I can’t remember the first week in February ever not having at least one snow threat in the long range Can't say what happened there, but 1st half Feb 2009 had nada here, except for a thaw. Then 19-23 had 2 storms totaling 33". We can dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Why can’t we get this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Clown range EPS has potential for one of those February 60+ or even 70+ torches on that look. Let’s get that in here if it’s not gonna snow….then get a big dog as we go into march and then call it a winter. Just an op ed on that... It seems to me that if the synoptics cross that threshold, the result won't stop at 60 or even 70+. Get the 576 isohypses N of ALB-BOS, with a deep layer WSW laminar flow out of west TX ... yeah I realize I've labored the aspect as of late, but the eye-popping 80 F has proven doable, in mid or latter February, three times in the past 5 years. Which lol, I realize 70+ counts.. .but you know what I mean. I think it goes full raging summer vibe, in winter, should the synoptic dam break and it warm bursts... I don't hold back, though. ha. I just call the f*n cigar a cigar, but if it's lazy flag waving 81F at Hanscom Field in Bedford on say .., it is what it is. Oh, it'd "only" 73 at ORH. And the DPs would be like 9F ... RF warning..all that, but ( and this will roll Scott's eyes - so much fun!) after about February 10 we've cross out of the solar minimum span - which begins on Nov 10 and ends on that Feb date. That's just environmentally/celestial mechanically unavoidable ...and the right feed-backs from the right sort of synopsis will make use of that solar input. I just wonder why that synoptic aspect is repeating. It doesn't seem to be tied to ENSO this or polar field that. Is it dumb luck..? I don't believe CC is why - don't bother... I mean, there could be some help there because launch pads are higher... maybe. I don't know. But in the here and now, we are crossing up Nina climo, with statically positive AO, a strengthening MJO wave between 3-6, and a recent decadal repeating signal for warm bursts... Do we need Rain- Man to predict the next card in the dealer's deck? We'll see - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Why can’t we get this? Trees crushing your truck but would be awesome, agree. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Dec '88 to March '92 enroute. So was it climate change back then or only now? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Oh... and if that is not enough...the event out there 11 ..13th of the month is still a valid signal. Not sure what for it may take. Could be icing... I think there is reasonable shot that would be wintry in profile, given the ballast of guidance sources still think there's cold within reach N of the border... After mid month though... I wouldn't be surprised if we see that big warm up start to materialize more obviously... Things seldom work out according to organized vision ...but this month may be diametric in appeal between the first and last chunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: So was it climate change back then or only now? It's more in reference to the lack of snow than the temps although there were a couple torch winter months in there. Dec 89 was like the coldest December on record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, MJO812 said: Seymour butts All I see is more weenies thinking it's going to snow since Mid-December, and whenever I post otherwise I piss everyone off for stealing their digital snow, but here we are from NYC through the south coast 0-4" to show for it down here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: It’s going to be funny if next season is even average snow…a lot of people are going to feel like it’s an abnormally snowy winter if that happens. Same with temps. Ha true, Maybe this season will be better for us in the long run.. As long as you give me a month long stretch of cold snow threats and decent pack for down here I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Trees crushing your truck but would be awesome, agree. Take everything down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Spanks45 said: Could be that I only took a quick glance, but the GFS did not look very warm for most of the 12z run....Of course there was no snow, but definitely not warm either. Ya I noticed that too looked much colder, then I looked at surface temps and saw this.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: Ha true, Maybe this season will be better for us in the long run.. As long as you give me a month long stretch of cold snow threats and decent pack for down here I'm content. I think there's probably plenty of people (not even just weather enthusiasts) that became used to the higher snow winters of the 2000s/2010s not realizing that those are somewhat anomalous in the longer record. There's other periods that are fairly prolific, but once again, they aren't the norm, they are outlier periods and they are often preceded or followed by some crappy stretches (think 1940s/early 1950s or 1980s/early 1990s) Like I often have to tell people that BOS 48.2" snowfall average is not totally representative of the longer climate record. Snowfall isn't quite like temps....we get a monster sample of temperatures every year, but we do not get a big sample of snowfalls, so 30 years is pretty precarious to base a snowfall climo on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I think there's probably plenty of people (not even just weather enthusiasts) that became used to the higher snow winters of the 2000s/2010s not realizing that those are somewhat anomalous in the longer record. There's other periods that are fairly prolific, but once again, they aren't the norm, they are outlier periods and they are often preceded or followed by some crappy stretches (think 1940s/early 1950s or 1980s/early 1990s) Like I often have to tell people that BOS 48.2" snowfall average is not totally representative of the longer climate record. Snowfall isn't quite like temps....we get a monster sample of temperatures every year, but we do not get a big sample of snowfalls, so 30 years is pretty precarious to base a snowfall climo on. True.. Side note .. When did the GEFS turn to trough in east day 10+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Why can’t we get this? How much accretion is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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