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February 2023 Obs/Discussion


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20 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

36° and pouring at the moment.

 

It’s amazing how many airmasses have lacked low level cold this year even when aloft is decently cold. So many winters we’ll have random events with 528 to 534 thickness and temps in the 20s. But this year, we’ll be like 528 thicknesses with 850 temps of -6 and 925 temps of -3 with sfc temps in the mid 30s with white rain falling. Lol. 
 

Cannot buy a surface high in even a half-reasonable position this winter. Tomorrow’s event is one of the first times all year where we have a good sfc high…ironically we lack a decent antecedent airmass ahead of it so we are still struggling anyway….hopefully one of these events beyond tomorrow can do the trick. 

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31 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

nice trend over the last few runs over the E US as the block ticks stronger 

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Really need that to continue otherwise we'll be near normal at best as the coldest air is west. 

At the very least you can probably eliminate the warm Marches like 2012 & 2020. That block will stick around for a while 

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12 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

Really need that to continue otherwise we'll be near normal at best as the coldest air is west. 

At the very least you can probably eliminate the warm Marches like 2012 & 2020. That block will stick around for a while 

the thing is that near normal is fine for the first week of March. and then the cold air would get forced underneath the block into the E US, assuming it’s strong and west-based. that’s what we don’t know yet

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6 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Yes, the answer is BEER. It’s run during happy hour, under the excessive consumption of BEER its calculations tend to be off. 

Sometimes it produces especially weenie solutions when it decides to hang out with Crazy Uncle at happy hour. 

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17 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Sometimes it produces especially weenie solutions when it decides to hang out with Crazy Uncle at happy hour. 

All I needed to do is op-ed an 8 paragraph rant about 'pumping the 28th breaks' because the NAO was backing off  ( this morning...) and now during the day ...

we start going back the other direction.   see? all one has to do is bitch and complain and there we go.  LOL

No but that's about an ideal look for 'balancing' the -PNA with -NAO.  It's a narrow window that we really need to work out, for this recouperation idea... Otherwise, heh... 

But it is what it is and we'll see. 

That said, the 28th is still a dead deal to us, because this NAO is just that delay I was talking about.  So, whence we arrive upon the 28th, does that then get delayed again?  

God ...I hate the f'ing index

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1 hour ago, dryslot said:

Usually we nickel and dime with a few modest 30-38 winter events to get to normal snowfall or above here but this may be the winter we could do it in 20 or less the way some of these have worked out and look too going forward as there coming in more moderate ones.

Yeah the plethora of 3-6” events has been very lacking this season. It’s either under 2” or over like 7”.

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7 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

I think if an active pattern and nicely oriented block holds you would see many weenie runs over the general north east area 

March blocks can do this. We’ve seen it enough to know it raises the ceiling on events. Doesn’t mean the odds of hitting the ceiling is any better though. Some people think it’s the same. 

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