Chris78 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Lots of agreement in the eps individual Members that the north and west crew gets some snow Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolz1 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 12z EPS continues the trend of pushing the boundary further south and east for the 22nd storm and others after. The look up top continues to look better as well. Pretty impressive snapshot. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymac5306 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 It will be steaming through Cleveland by Friday's 12z... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chris78 said: Lots of agreement in the eps individual Members that the north and west crew gets some snow Sunday. I saw the EPS snow map elsewhere and it’s probably the best I’ve seen since December? 6-7” for Harrisburg ranging down to ~3” for DC. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 nice Miller A signal on the EPS for next week 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: I saw the EPS snow map elsewhere and it’s probably the best I’ve seen since December? 6-7” for Harrisburg ranging down to ~3” for DC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 can't ask for too much more here. sheeeeesh HL ridge bridge - a legit -NAO/-AO/-EPO pattern with a strong jet stream off the EC 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticWx Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Allsnow said: continued trends SE and immediate NW burgs should be on the right side of the gradient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, poolz1 said: 12z EPS continues the trend of pushing the boundary further south and east for the 22nd storm and others after. The look up top continues to look better as well. Pretty impressive snapshot. If it still looks like that in 48 hours I will start to get excited. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Rtd208 said: I am well aware of March 1993. But other then a few rogue events winter is basically over for the most part. Plus you are fighting increasing daytime temperatures and sun angle by that point as well (yes I said it, sun angle). In our most recent 30 year climo period at IAD, March was the snowiest month in a given winter season in 2018, 2017, 2014, 2013, 2009, 1999, 1994, and 1993. It's not incredibly uncommon for March to be relatively snowy for our general area, especially when compared to another month that is considered firmly in "winter" climo, December. If we're tracking in December, there's no reason not to track if things are favorable in March. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: If it still looks like that in 48 hours I will start to get excited. What... you are not staying up for the 0z Euro tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 The guidance reminds me a little of January 1994. Hopefully if a similar thing repeats we can get a 50 mile shift south compared to 94. DC and Baltimore were so close to a big run but we’re slightly on the wrong side of the boundary almost every storm in 94. The gradient was extreme. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, psuhoffman said: The guidance reminds me a little of January 1994. Hopefully if a similar thing repeats we can get a 50 mile shift south compared to 94. DC and Baltimore were so close to a big run but we’re slightly on the wrong side of the boundary almost every storm in 94. The gradient was extreme. That was the year of all the ice storms right? I was ice skating on our yard as a teen back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris78 said: That was the year of all the ice storms right? I was ice skating on our yard as a teen back then. Yes but you didn’t have to go far north to see a significantly snowier winter. The Mason Dixon line got about 40-50”. Ya there was a lot of ice mix up here too but each storm dropped like 4-8” of snow before the ice up here and with the temps there was a deep snowcover all winter almost to April! The ice/snow line kept setting up almost the exact same place all winter just NW of the metro areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: The guidance reminds me a little of January 1994. Hopefully if a similar thing repeats we can get a 50 mile shift south compared to 94. DC and Baltimore were so close to a big run but we’re slightly on the wrong side of the boundary almost every storm in 94. The gradient was extreme. 94 was a sleet fest... They would forecast a snowstorm and every time we ended up with a glacier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Yes but you didn’t have to go far north to see a significantly snowier winter. The Mason Dixon line got about 40-50”. Ya there was a lot of ice mix up here too but each storm dropped like 4-8” of snow before the ice up here and with the temps there was a deep snowcover all winter almost to April! The ice/snow line kept setting up almost the exact same place all winter just NW of the metro areas. I grew up in Frederick county between Frederick and Thurmont. I Remember alot of those snow to ice events that were loaded with moisture. There was 1 strom that year that had hour and hours of sleet. We had several inches of sleet. I've never seen anything like that again. After one of the snows my neighbor came over and snowblowed the backyard to get down to the ice from the previous storm. It made a pretty cool hockey rink for a few weeks. Some of the storms had temps in the teens with pouring sleet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolsheds Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Yes but you didn’t have to go far north to see a significantly snowier winter. The Mason Dixon line got about 40-50”. Ya there was a lot of ice mix up here too but each storm dropped like 4-8” of snow before the ice up here and with the temps there was a deep snowcover all winter almost to April! The ice/snow line kept setting up almost the exact same place all winter just NW of the metro areas. I think I remember seeing -12 that Jan as I was under my parent's porch trying to thaw frozen pikes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Yes but you didn’t have to go far north to see a significantly snowier winter. The Mason Dixon line got about 40-50”. Ya there was a lot of ice mix up here too but each storm dropped like 4-8” of snow before the ice up here and with the temps there was a deep snowcover all winter almost to April! The ice/snow line kept setting up almost the exact same place all winter just NW of the metro areas. then man invented cars,airplanes and trains....and--sorry wrong thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: The guidance reminds me a little of January 1994. Hopefully if a similar thing repeats we can get a 50 mile shift south compared to 94. DC and Baltimore were so close to a big run but we’re slightly on the wrong side of the boundary almost every storm in 94. The gradient was extreme. Uh, '94 was amazing. I was at PSU Altoona. Obviously I was north of the gradient. We can only hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Andrew Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: The guidance reminds me a little of January 1994. Hopefully if a similar thing repeats we can get a 50 mile shift south compared to 94. DC and Baltimore were so close to a big run but we’re slightly on the wrong side of the boundary almost every storm in 94. The gradient was extreme. That was a very cold pattern. Two ice storms for DC area. Does this pattern resemble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chris78 said: I grew up in Frederick county between Frederick and Thurmont. I Remember alot of those snow to ice events that were loaded with moisture. There was 1 strom that year that had hour and hours of sleet. We had several inches of sleet. I've never seen anything like that again. After one of the snows my neighbor came over and snowblowed the backyard to get down to the ice from the previous storm. It made a pretty cool hockey rink for a few weeks. Some of the storms had temps in the teens with pouring sleet. I grew up in/around Harrisburg (don't worry, I've made it out and I don't go back). January 1994 was astonishing, I was a school-age kid and I remember an absolute glacier of ice on top of snow. The ice was strong enough to support my 8 year old weight and it must have had a foot of snow under it. We went sledding at a golf course and my brother got yeeted off his sled and scraped a bunch of skin off his face. That period through Jan '96 cemented my love of snow, which got me through the drought of '97-'99. Even up there in the great north of central PA, winters can suck. We need a reminiscence thread, sorry for the digression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Interstate said: What... you are not staying up for the 0z Euro tonight? That run is going to be good. Hey, I'm on a heater now...with 1 good call. Happy Hour GFS will put the happy back in happy hour..watch now... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jersey Andrew said: That was a very cold pattern. Two ice storms for DC area. Does this pattern resemble? There are some similarities between current guidance and 94 yes. That doesn’t mean it’s gonna be that cold. Highly doubt it. I mean in a general longwave pattern sense. Current progs have a little better NAO than 94 but a more broad less deep trough. Those probably are a net wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: There are some similarities between current guidance and 94 yes. That doesn’t mean it’s gonna be that cold. Highly doubt it. I mean in a general longwave pattern sense. Current progs have a little better NAO than 94 but a more broad less deep trough. Those probably are a net wash. Prep to worry about being fringed on the next Euro run. We both know we've got a hit on our hands then. You're welcome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I'm going to personally get us these storms or storm by sheer fucking will. This forum is an apocalyptic husk: fights, ruins, fires everywhere. Despair so wide even the Cowboy's kicker could put a football through it. These are dangerous and heady times folks. I am here for all of us and remember... I will always love you. Let's do this. 5 4 21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, anotherman said: Uh, '94 was amazing. I was at PSU Altoona. Obviously I was north of the gradient. We can only hope. I was in central PA at Bucknell. Unreal winter followed by another absolute monster two years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: There are some similarities between current guidance and 94 yes. That doesn’t mean it’s gonna be that cold. Highly doubt it. I mean in a general longwave pattern sense. Current progs have a little better NAO than 94 but a more broad less deep trough. Those probably are a net wash. Your memory for details in regards to patterns from decades ago is astonishing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, stormtracker said: I will always love you. Let's do this. That's not what you told me last night. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATECH Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, stormtracker said: I'm going to personally get us these storms or storm by sheer fucking will. This forum is an apocalyptic husk: fights, ruins, fires everywhere. Despair so wide even the Cowboy's kicker could put a football through it. These are dangerous and heady times folks. I am here for all of us and remember... I will always love you. Let's do this. You just jinxed it with the cowboy kicker reference. The goal post could be as wide as the universe and he would miss it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolz1 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, Chris78 said: I grew up in Frederick county between Frederick and Thurmont. I Remember alot of those snow to ice events that were loaded with moisture. There was 1 strom that year that had hour and hours of sleet. We had several inches of sleet. I've never seen anything like that again. After one of the snows my neighbor came over and snowblowed the backyard to get down to the ice from the previous storm. It made a pretty cool hockey rink for a few weeks. Some of the storms had temps in the teens with pouring sleet. I grew up in a similar spot...Walkersville. Our driveway was about 100yds long and uphill. Remember my sister's car sliding down the driveway, after a failed attempt to make it up. Slid off the driveway and stayed on top of the snow and into the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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