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2023 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion)


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7 minutes ago, George BM said:

Tornado Warning East/central Howard County.

 

Severe Weather Statement
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
435 PM EDT Fri Jun 30 2023

MDC027-302045-
/O.CON.KLWX.TO.W.0004.000000T0000Z-230630T2045Z/
Howard MD-
435 PM EDT Fri Jun 30 2023

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 445 PM EDT FOR EAST
CENTRAL HOWARD COUNTY...

At 435 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado
was located over Columbia, moving northeast at 15 mph.

HAZARD...Tornado.

SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation.
IMPACT...For those in the direct path of a tornado touchdown, flying
         debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter.
         Damage to roofs, siding, and windows may occur. Mobile
         homes may be damaged or destroyed. Tree damage is likely.

This dangerous storm will be near...
  Historic Ellicott City, Ellicott City and Catonsville around 445
  PM EDT.

Other locations impacted by this tornadic thunderstorm include
Simpsonville and Ilchester.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a basement or an interior room on the lowest
floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a
mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter
and protect yourself from flying debris.

Heavy rainfall may hide this tornado. Do not wait to see or hear the
tornado. TAKE COVER NOW!

&&

LAT...LON 3928 7679 3927 7679 3923 7673 3922 7675
      3918 7689 3921 7692 3929 7680
TIME...MOT...LOC 2035Z 240DEG 15KT 3921 7687

TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED
MAX HAIL SIZE...0.00 IN
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The HRRR performed REALLY well today IMO. Several runs in a row had a big cell type signature going right through Central Maryland. More like a line segment - but certainly a big punch for a non SPC risk day. This either means we will now pay for this with several misses in the next few days...or we are going on a hot streak for severe. Won't know until it's done ;) 

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STW with TOR poss tag for C MD

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
Severe Thunderstorm Warning
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
441 PM EDT Fri Jun 30 2023

The National Weather Service in Sterling Virginia has issued a

* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for...
  Baltimore City in northern Maryland...
  Northwestern Anne Arundel County in central Maryland...
  Eastern Howard County in central Maryland...
  Southwestern Baltimore County in northern Maryland...

* Until 530 PM EDT.

* At 441 PM EDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line
  extending from Ellicott City to near Elkridge to Laurel, moving
  east at 15 mph.

  HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts.

  SOURCE...Radar indicated.

  IMPACT...Damaging winds will cause some trees and large branches
           to fall. This could injure those outdoors, as well as
           damage homes and vehicles. Roadways may become blocked by
           downed trees. Localized power outages are possible.
           Unsecured light objects may become projectiles.

* Locations impacted include...
  Baltimore, Columbia, Severn, Pikesville, Elkridge, Riviera Beach,
  Baltimore-Washington Airport, Historic Ellicott City, Fort
  Smallwood State Park, Glen Burnie, Ellicott City, Dundalk, Towson,
  Catonsville, Woodlawn, Milford Mill, Lochearn, Pasadena, Arbutus
  and Ferndale.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Remain alert for a possible tornado! Tornadoes can develop quickly
from severe thunderstorms. If you spot a tornado go at once into the
basement or small central room in a sturdy structure.

Torrential rainfall is occurring with these storms, and may lead to
flash flooding. Do not drive your vehicle through flooded roadways.

&&

LAT...LON 3927 7651 3920 7649 3920 7650 3919 7650
      3916 7648 3910 7684 3917 7688 3926 7687
      3938 7673 3938 7659
TIME...MOT...LOC 2041Z 251DEG 14KT 3928 7684 3920 7680 3909 7683

TORNADO...POSSIBLE
HAIL THREAT...RADAR INDICATED
MAX HAIL SIZE...<.75 IN
WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED
MAX WIND GUST...60 MPH
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Was mentioned in the obs thread but yes - not even a marginal risk, no mesoscale discussion - what an overperformer! Not seeing any LSRs yet - but assuming some lagged ones might pop up. I'd say this is a solid storm day given the silence from the SPC. 

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5 minutes ago, Kmlwx said:

Was mentioned in the obs thread but yes - not even a marginal risk, no mesoscale discussion - what an overperformer! Not seeing any LSRs yet - but assuming some lagged ones might pop up. I'd say this is a solid storm day given the silence from the SPC. 

The under the radar days outperform the big risk days lol

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Both Sat/Sun seem to favor south of the Potomac. But some cells do make it ahead of the main line on that NAM nest run. These things are super tricky to forecast...H5 would seem to argue the bend further south of us is real. 

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Just now, Kmlwx said:

Both Sat/Sun seem to favor south of the Potomac. But some cells do make it ahead of the main line on that NAM nest run. These things are super tricky to forecast...H5 would seem to argue the bend further south of us is real. 

Looks like a supercell into a bow echo for DC metro Sun afternoon?  Hours 42-45 on sim radar

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Just now, yoda said:

Looks like a supercell into a bow echo for DC metro Sun afternoon?  Hours 42-45 on sim radar

After today I'm almost inclined to use the HRRR as my "first guess" for both days :lol: - it really did pretty well on this morning's runs for this afternoon/evening. 

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1 minute ago, yoda said:

Looks like a supercell into a bow echo for DC metro Sun afternoon?  Hours 42-45 on sim radar

The 18z NAM kept me largely dry except for a few showers...and of course I bought tickets for the Baysox game tomorrow evening...fitting that the NAM seems to want to spoil that. The 12km NAM even looks solid. 

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I said earlier...result of today will either be that we pay with painful misses for a while...or we are on a temporary heater. 

Given the recent boring weather, and a hunch feeling...I do wonder if we string together a solid streak of storm days. 

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Just now, Kmlwx said:

I said earlier...result of today will either be that we pay with painful misses for a while...or we are on a temporary heater. 

Given the recent boring weather, and a hunch feeling...I do wonder if we string together a solid streak of storm days. 

Should be an intriguing Day 1 and Day 2 SPC OTLK... maybe even Day 3 lol

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^^ 
Wow...obviously two isn't enough of a sample size - but that's suggestive that there *could* be some sort of terrain or microscale influence there to get spin going. At least while I was watching/tracking during the storms earlier - that rotation formed pretty quick - granted I wasn't really looking at elevated tilts. 

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Just a cursory glance at the terrain map and map in general for that area - a few things grab my attention - 

1) Much less developed/urban sprawl areas versus other suburban areas closer in. 

2) Triadelphia Reservoir/Patuxent River in that area

3) Sort of evenly split distance between the city center of Baltimore/DC (think heat islands). Have to wonder if the UHI plays a role...totally speculative - but if you have one area warmer than others one would assume there could be some microclimate stuff going on like eddies of warmer areas and such. 

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The guidance is all over the place for both today and tomorrow. Pretty much every solution portrayed depending on which model you look at. Could be anything from getting blanked (for the most part) both days, to flush hits both days (maybe even multiple times). 

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HRRR seems to think the storms will make it roughly to the Chesapeake before petering out. FV3 (12z run) really doesn't have much for most of us. It's still anyone's guess...but I think the SPC expansion of the slight risk into the area is probably wise. It's pretty cloudy here in Central Maryland - but certainly moist...73+ degrees for the dewpoint IMBY right now. 

I'm guessing we will overperform simply because I have baseball tickets for tonight ;) 

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