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Mid to Long Range Discussion ~ 2023


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4 hours ago, Upstate Tiger said:

Looking ahead to fall and winter.  Odds are increasing of a moderate to strong El Nino in the late fall and winter.  Climatologically, not great for SE snow but has to be better than 3 years of Nina.  I have posted the strong to moderate El Nino years below.  There are some winners in the there for major storms...

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

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Yeah we don't want a strong Nino because it'll flood the whole country with warm air.

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We're really getting rocked here now, harder than the late morning activity. Very heavy rains, frequent lightning, and gusty winds are all occurring. This reminds me why I hate satellite dish vs cable!

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I deove through the last wave heading west from downtown Savannah last night.  Really heavy rain and some intense lightning for a bit.  And too many people driving with hazard lights on...

A friend took this picture of the tornado-warned storm in Effingham.

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1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said:

GFS brings the cutoff low further south. Central NC is completely dry through the run. This would run up significant drought conditions 

The GEFS actually ticked north at 12z, but in general the trend has not been our friend. I do think Charlotte and South should get enough rain to mitigate drought concerns. And for them mountains many areas will do well as a result of orographic lift.

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53 minutes ago, WinstonSalemArlington said:

Best June ever IMG-2147.png

I’m in a steady state of complaining about the rain but also knowing we need it. I think the biggest bummer is that 90% of the weekends this whole year have sucked. It’s making me extra bitter, especially considering we couldn’t even drum up a dusting of snow this winter. 

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1 hour ago, BooneWX said:

I’m in a steady state of complaining about the rain but also knowing we need it. I think the biggest bummer is that 90% of the weekends this whole year have sucked. It’s making me extra bitter, especially considering we couldn’t even drum up a dusting of snow this winter. 

This weekend has been absolutely perfect though. 

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22 hours ago, kvegas-wx said:

We are very quickly only going to have 60 days left of avg hi temps above 85° here in the Triad.  This is getting close to the summer that never was, but I dont want to jinx us quite yet.  So far, I'll take this over torch/humidity any day.

Summer just started, you got at least 90 days of that left.

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With the majority of the rain behind us, time to look ahead to Monday to our next severe threat. Not a particularly high ceiling, but looks like it could be an enhanced type day if the timing is right

...DISCUSSION...
...Monday/Day 4...
An upper-level low is forecast to move across the Great Lakes region
on Monday, as an associated trough moves into the upper Ohio Valley
and southern Appalachians. A moist airmass, with surface dewpoints
in the lower 70s F, will likely be in place from the Carolinas
north-northeastward into the Mid-Atlantic. Moderate instability is
forecast to develop across much of this moist airmass by afternoon.
Thunderstorms that form in the higher terrain will move
east-northeastward into the Appalachian foothills during the
afternoon. The instability combined with moderate deep-layer shear
and steep low-level lapse rates will likely result in a some severe
storms. Wind damage and hail are expected to be the primary threats.

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5 hours ago, olafminesaw said:

With the majority of the rain behind us, time to look ahead to Monday to our next severe threat. Not a particularly high ceiling, but looks like it could be an enhanced type day if the timing is right

...DISCUSSION...
...Monday/Day 4...
An upper-level low is forecast to move across the Great Lakes region
on Monday, as an associated trough moves into the upper Ohio Valley
and southern Appalachians. A moist airmass, with surface dewpoints
in the lower 70s F, will likely be in place from the Carolinas
north-northeastward into the Mid-Atlantic. Moderate instability is
forecast to develop across much of this moist airmass by afternoon.
Thunderstorms that form in the higher terrain will move
east-northeastward into the Appalachian foothills during the
afternoon. The instability combined with moderate deep-layer shear
and steep low-level lapse rates will likely result in a some severe
storms. Wind damage and hail are expected to be the primary threats.

severe_ml_day4_gefso_062712.png

I will be ready!

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A cooler-than-normal warm season is not at all surprising, especially if we do end up going into a Super Nino this year. Still, they won't be perfect analogs given the climatology this map uses and major differences in SST patterns elsewhere.

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