January 2023

[weatherpruf]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

what I liked last year is with much less rain there were also much less bugs.  It was the first time I didn't have to spray, with all that rain I have to spray everything, all the borders around my house, my pond, garden, everything.  I hate nasty mosquitoes and giant spiders and creepy centipedes, I dont want NY to become like Texas.

I noticed my health was better and a lot less allergies with the drier air last summer.  It actually felt like the drier and hotter summers we had growing up here.

I did not like having to constantly water the garden....for most years I really didn't need to water; there was enough weekly rain to keep things fine if they were well mulched. Last year I couldn't go anywhere lest the whole crop shriveled. Some normal balance to our weather would be nice; a few snow events, a t-storm or two a week in the summer, a spring where you didn't have to wait til June to plant because of cold snaps and so on. A little frost on the pumpkin in late Oct. 

[weatherpruf]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Nice model runs overnight 

I doubt it really matters. I'm ready for spring. Enough of this. Of course, we are stuck with it a few more weeks. Weeks, that's all, then we won't have to think about it until next Dec. 

[EasternLI]

29 minutes ago, North and West said:

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[CIK62]

The last 6 days of January are averaging       40degs.(36/45) or +7.

Month to date is       43.1[+9.3].          January should end at       42.5[+8.8]  Second Place

Reached 54 here yesterday at midnight.

Today:   Slowly falling T's to 42 by sunset, wind w.-breezy, variable clouds, 36 tomorrow AM.

47*(99%RH) here at 6am.       44* at 8am.      42* at Noon.

[Winterweatherlover]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Nice model runs overnight 

Seeing snow show up to our south on the models is def a refreshing site. 

[SnoSki14]

19 minutes ago, Winterweatherlover said:

Seeing snow show up to our south on the models is def a refreshing site. 

Yeah early Feb could be good for us. Then we torch most of the month before one more favorable period late Feb to early March. 

2 week winter 

[JerseyWx]

Turned out to be a soaker here, right around 2 inches of rain.  Had some heavy downpours last night.

@rgwp96Any idea what we got before the changeover?

[SnoSki14]

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

actually we dont need the rain and definitely dont want it.

I remember the good old days when we averaged less than 40 inches of rain a year hopefully we're returning to that with drier springs and summers.

 

Going back 365 days we're still a few inches below normal actually.

Also with warmer waters we will likely see more, not less rain moving forward. Summer 2022 was an anomaly imo

[rgwp96]

18 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

Turned out to be a soaker here, right around 2 inches of rain.  Had some heavy downpours last night.

@rgwp96Any idea what we got before the changeover?

1 inch of snow and 2.14 of rain lol

[Stormlover74]

1 hour ago, weatherpruf said:

I doubt it really matters. I'm ready for spring. Enough of this. Of course, we are stuck with it a few more weeks. Weeks, that's all, then we won't have to think about it until next Dec. 

Months

[LoboLeader1]

2.01 in the rain bucket here from yesterday's deluge. Currently 41F as of 9AM.

[Brian5671]

Looks like a small window of opportunity later next week-hopefully we can get something.  Otherwise the futility record might make a run at March and challenge 97-98

[mannynyc]

15 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Looks like a small window of opportunity later next week-hopefully we can get something.  Otherwise the futility record might make a run at March and challenge 97-98

Totally agree. We have three shots in February (1st, 3rd and 6th). If we don’t get it then we can seriously start talking about a snowless winter. 

[EastonSN+]

This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

[Stormlover74]

8 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

Never thought we'd see a warmer winter than that one but here we are 

[weatherpruf]

50 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Months

Months are made of weeks....I'm confident though, that we will be done in weeks, not months. It may say winter on the calendar, but it's toast. 6 weeks. Maybe earlier. Will eat crow if I'm wrong, but even one storm isn't gonna turn this around.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Going back 365 days we're still a few inches below normal actually.

Also with warmer waters we will likely see more, not less rain moving forward. Summer 2022 was an anomaly imo

It's not all about warmer waters though, air circulation moves west to east so if we can get a nice downsloping westerly flow it will overpower whatever the Atlantic is doing.

 

[MANDA]

1.5" snow (completely gone this morning) with a total melted of 1.83".  Temperatures surged to near 50 overnight and is back down into the mid 30's currently.

[SnoSki14]

12 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Never thought we'd see a warmer winter than that one but here we are 

Thus far if you include December there have been warmer Dec-Jan periods but we're getting up there.

If Feb ends up as warm as weeklies suggest then the warmest winter (D-F) is in the cards.

[LibertyBell]

22 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

Yeah NYC has more of a midatlantic climate,  NE is like another world.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SnoSki14 said:

Thus far if you include December there have been warmer Dec-Jan periods but we're getting up there.

If Feb ends up as warm as weeklies suggest then the warmest winter (D-F) is in the cards.

2001-02 was warmer than 1997-98 here

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Months

Our winters aren't that long, Met winter ends as of March 1st and it's rare to get anything significant after the equinox anyway.

[EastonSN+]

16 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Never thought we'd see a warmer winter than that one but here we are 

Yeah I am shocked about how warm 1932/1933 were as well. In my warped mind I pictured pre 1950s as an Arctic tundra with feet of snow from November through April

[SnoSki14]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Yeah NYC has more of a midatlantic climate,  NE is like another world.

SNE is becoming more like NYC while we're becoming more like Virginia

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

It's not all about warmer waters though, air circulation moves west to east so if we can get a nice downsloping westerly flow it will overpower whatever the Atlantic is doing.

 

It does matter in the summer where our rainfall is primarily convective driven.

Warmer waters means more instability, more vapor in the air, more tropical threats. 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said:

SNE is becoming more like NYC while we're becoming more like Virginia

It does matter in the summer where our rainfall is primarily convective driven.

Warmer waters means more instability, more vapor in the air, more tropical threats. 

Thats true but mostly for NJ and away from the ocean (ironically enough), here on the south shore we don't see much convection (very much like the Florida beaches.)

 

[EastonSN+]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yeah NYC has more of a midatlantic climate,  NE is like another world.

It's so weird too as Norwalk where I lived was barely north and east of Manhattan (41 miles). I feel like East is almost as important as North.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Yeah I am shocked about how warm 1932/1933 were as well. In my warped mind I pictured pre 1950s as an Arctic tundra with feet of snow from November through April

That was 1920s and prior.

Maybe 1910s and prior when NYC averaged 35 inches of snow a year and that was without accounting for compaction.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said:

It's so weird too as Norwalk where I lived was barely north and east of Manhattan (41 miles). I feel like East is almost as important as North.

Yep and actually Suffolk County is more like NE too.

 

[Stormlover74]

22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Our winters aren't that long, Met winter ends as of March 1st and it's rare to get anything significant after the equinox anyway.

I'm talking about rainy raw dreary weather

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I'm talking about rainy raw dreary weather

oh that could be endless =\