snowman19 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Brutal. Is orh still below 10? Not sure about ORH. This morning Eric Fisher said Boston itself is still awaiting its first inch of snow. It’s pretty wild . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: The warm winter has helped Europe a lot with their demand problems and it'll help us too this month. Once you accept that it'll be a mild/snow-free winter it becomes kinda nice. Lots of positives. Only wish there was less rain Ending the california and western drought is a big positive too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Not sure about ORH. This morning Eric Fisher said Boston itself is still awaiting its first inch of snow. It’s pretty wild . If this is what it takes to end the drought out west, we need to bite the bullet. Sacrificing the snow is really insignificant compared to that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: The warm winter has helped Europe a lot with their demand problems and it'll help us too this month. Once you accept that it'll be a mild/snow-free winter it becomes kinda nice. Lots of positives. Only wish there was less rain when we get to the warm(er) season there will probably be much less rain. I'm thinking we get a 2002 type spring and summer-- which will be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Not sure about ORH. This morning Eric Fisher said Boston itself is still awaiting its first inch of snow. It’s pretty wild . Boston is up to 1.2" on the season. Pathetic but they're over 1". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 97/98 must be the closest to this year wrt snowfall. Believe NYC did not get their first inch till mid March! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: The warm winter has helped Europe a lot with their demand problems and it'll help us too this month. Once you accept that it'll be a mild/snow-free winter it becomes kinda nice. Lots of positives. Only wish there was less rain As much as I love a good snow, I'm not missing it that much. It'll be back again. Someday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Today, Winter 2022-2023 will become just the 9th winter on record during which New York City had seen no measurable snowfall through January 7th. The last such winter was 2015-2016. Those winters were: 1885-1886, 1965-1966, 1972-1973, 1994-1995, 1997-1998, 1999-2000, 2006-2007, 2015-2016, and 2022-2023. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, EastonSN+ said: 97/98 must be the closest to this year wrt snowfall. Believe NYC did not get their first inch till mid March! It was stormier, and windy. I remember a warm rainy wind that blew my screen door open and shattered the glass, and what a PIA it was to get that replaced. There was a half inch or so late in winter, they didn't bother to salt, and my big Dodge pickup slid down a hilly road before slamming into a curb, ruining the axle. It was a fitting end to a crap winter. I have written before, that I did not touch the snowblower from the end of 96 until the storm of Dec. 2000. There was simply no need. And there were some unbearable summers in there too, like 99. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Today, Winter 2022-2023 will become just the 9th winter on record during which New York City had seen no measurable snowfall through January 7th. The last such winter was 2015-2016. Those winters were: 1885-1886, 1965-1966, 1972-1973, 1994-1995, 1997-1998, 1999-2000, 2006-2007, 2015-2016, and 2022-2023.I figured 01-02 would be on that list too. Kind of surprised it wasn’t. That was one of the biggest ratters of all time. Worse than 11-12 and 97-98. 19-20 was pretty ugly too from late December on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I figured 01-02 would be on that list too. Kind of surprised it wasn’t. That was one of the biggest ratters of all time. Worse than 11-12 and 97-98. 19-20 was pretty ugly too from late December on . 2001-02 received 0.5” of snow on today’s date. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 This will be February. March and April will be relatively colder he says. WHO'S HE, NOT ME..............ITS JB. Its the Toilet Paper Run. Keep Swingin' Boy----You're Bound to Make Contact. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The new Euro is about to be rain to Quebec City . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniblab Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, snowman19 said: The new Euro is about to be rain to Quebec City . Eh, they probably need the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: The warm winter has helped Europe a lot with their demand problems and it'll help us too this month. Once you accept that it'll be a mild/snow-free winter it becomes kinda nice. Lots of positives. Only wish there was less rain Would be much easier to appreciate the positives if these warm episodes didn't feel connected to an alarming problem. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, weatherpruf said: It was stormier, and windy. I remember a warm rainy wind that blew my screen door open and shattered the glass, and what a PIA it was to get that replaced. There was a half inch or so late in winter, they didn't bother to salt, and my big Dodge pickup slid down a hilly road before slamming into a curb, ruining the axle. It was a fitting end to a crap winter. I have written before, that I did not touch the snowblower from the end of 96 until the storm of Dec. 2000. There was simply no need. And there were some unbearable summers in there too, like 99. 97-98 would’ve been a very good winter with just a little more cold air. The El Niño was so powerful that it flooded N America with warm air. There were some good benchmark storms that were ruined because of Pacific air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Snowshack said: Would be much easier to appreciate the positives if these warm episodes didn't feel connected to an alarming problem. Climate change is a “plus” on top of this awful stretch this winter but if it was 1750 this pattern would still probably mean no snow. Zonal raging Pacific jet is never good for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, CIK62 said: This will be February. March and April will be relatively colder he says. WHO'S HE, NOT ME..............ITS JB. Its the Toilet Paper Run. Keep Swingin' Boy----You're Bound to Make Contact. The actual CFSv2 forecast is for a warmer than normal February. Of course, at this range, skill is very low. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said: 97/98 must be the closest to this year wrt snowfall. Believe NYC did not get their first inch till mid March! Just like this. Rain, rain, more rain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, jm1220 said: 97-98 would’ve been a very good winter with just a little more cold air. The El Niño was so powerful that it flooded N America with warm air. There were some good benchmark storms that were ruined because of Pacific air. Something to look forward to next year… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 12z Euro is earlier with the timing. Most of the rain is friday morning, and then a dry weekend. Less than an inch of rain for most of us on this run. Of course 6 days away, so it's too early to know details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 12z Euro is earlier with the timing. Most of the rain is friday morning, and then a dry weekend. Less than an inch of rain for most of us on this run. Of course 6 days away, so it's too early to know details. This run almost turned it into FROPA but it’s probably wrong. It was all disjointed, energy flying all over and this solution is most likely trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Climate change is a “plus” on top of this awful stretch this winter but if it was 1750 this pattern would still probably mean no snow. Zonal raging Pacific jet is never good for us. A lot colder in 1750 than now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: A lot colder in 1750 than now. 1750 is a bit of an extreme example as that was still the mini ice age. However I get the point that it did not snow non stop in winters of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: 1750 is a bit of an extreme example as that was still the mini ice age. However I get the point that it did not snow non stop in winters of the past. Maybe 1850 is a better example but still, climate change isn't directly causing this warm/awful stretch. It's enhancing it for sure, and more research needs to be done on these massive marine heatwaves and how they lead to long term repeating pattern shifts like these. The very warm W Pacific is leading to this insane repeating Pacific jet pattern for example and acting as an enhancer to this now 3 year Nina. The very warm offshore waters here are enhancing the SE Ridge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Something to look forward to next year… Or congrats DC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Lol 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, jm1220 said: Climate change is a “plus” on top of this awful stretch this winter but if it was 1750 this pattern would still probably mean no snow. Zonal raging Pacific jet is never good for us. Of course, there were some bleak winters during the 18th century, too. From John Adams’ diary: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 At this point if you’re a snow lover just root for one storm before spring 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Lol Not holding my breath. Chasing the carrot is getting tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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