December 22nd - 23rd Cutter Discussion and Observations

[MJO812]

Wow

[guinness77]

Lol, this wind is insane. I’m getting 45-50mph gusts easily right now. 

[WestBabylonWeather]

Nothin like 13 degrees and 50 mile an hour winds 

[snywx]

Currently 5/-7 here

 

 

[hudsonvalley21]

9 minutes ago, WestBabylonWeather said:

Nothin like 13 degrees and 50 mile an hour winds 

No mosquitoes out tonight.

 

[Nibor]

2 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

No mosquitoes out tonight.

 

I think I'd rather deal with mosquitos than have to thaw that bullshit out.

[BxEngine]

7 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

No mosquitoes out tonight.

 

Jebwalk in the flesh

[donsutherland1]

At 9 pm EST, the temperature in New York City was 10F (-12.2C). The temperature has now fallen 48F (26.7C). That ties the record that was set on March 28, 1921 for the largest daily range. Records go back to 1869.

[dmillz25]

Just now, donsutherland1 said:

At 9 pm EST, the temperature in New York City was 10F (-12.2C). The temperature has now fallen 48F (26.7C). That ties the record that was set on March 28, 1921 for the largest daily range. Records go back to 1869.

Wow

[hudsonvalley21]

15 minutes ago, snywx said:

Currently 5/-7 here

 

 

Just posted in the interior thread how the dewpts went from the mid 50’s today to negative numbers currently. Crazy swing.

[SnoSki14]

3 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

At 9 pm EST, the temperature in New York City was 10F (-12.2C). The temperature has now fallen 48F (26.7C). That ties the record that was set on March 28, 1921 for the largest daily range. Records go back to 1869.

Wow maybe they'll break it after all

[snywx]

2 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

Just posted in the interior thread how the dewpts went from the mid 50’s today to negative numbers currently. Crazy swing.

41 degree swing here so far

[Snowlover11]

down to 9F feels like -12.

[Intensewind002]

Down to 9 here, 49 degree drop since this morning for me. Winds are still gusting 40-50 mph too so winds chills are between -12 and -16

[Tatamy]

Recent data output from my station on Fire Island 

 

[Roger Smith]

8 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Has NYC ever had a 45 degree range 

I ran a program on the data base and here is the full list of 38+ daily ranges (1869-2022); as Don mentioned, 48 is the maximum but in terms of winter synoptics 43 (58/15) on Jan 9, 1978 seems to be the largest range from this type of deep freeze plunge (the record was a cold front too but in late March 1921).

The occasions with ** marking are also in the list of largest day to day changes in maximum temperature that I posted earlier in the thread and will update from 23rd and 24th max data.

The largest change there was 41 deg in Feb 1918. 

I have identified the cause of the large range which can be warming especially earlier in the records when there was a smaller urban heat island, at the onset of very warm spells. So the list of largest ranges caused by a daily cooling trend is smaller than this list, as about one third that I have identified are large (mostly spring month) warmings rather than created by a cold front.

This is a long list but it may help anyone interested in finding similar synoptic situations. l can now edit in Dec 23, 2022 apparently the new champion of the big range at 50 F deg difference (58,8). 

 

Rank ___ Date ______ Range from Max, Min ___range due wx colder or warmer? 

_ 01 ____ Dec 23, 2022 _50 __ 58 __ 8 ____ cold front 

_ 02 ____ Mar 28, 1921 _ 48 __ 82 _ 34 ____ cold front (prev day 60/47, next day 42/26)

_ 03 ____ Apr 25, 1915 _ 44 __ 91 _ 47 ____ could have been either or both (67,91,72,92,54)  

_t04 ____ Apr 7, 1929 __ 43 __ 89 _ 46 ____ warming from prev day max 56, next day 88

_t04 ____ Jan 9, 1978 __ 43 __ 58 _ 15 ____ cold front (next day 21/12) ^

_ 06 ____ Mar 13, 1990 _ 42 __ 85 _ 43 ___ warm spell with large diurnal ranges (also 35 range 15th)

_t07 ____ Feb 20, 1918 _ 41 __ 59 _ 18 ____ cold front, next day max 18 (this is largest day to day change) **

_t07 ____ Mar 18, 1934 _41 __ 71 _ 30 ____ cold front, next day max 36 min 22 **

_t07 ____ May 19, 1962 _41 __ 99 _ 58 ____ warming, prev day 89/56, next 90/64. (May's highest  max)

_t07 ____ Mar 20, 1986 _41 __ 62 _ 21 ____ cold front, next day 36/18

_t07 ____ Dec 22, 1998 _41 __ 63 _ 22 ____ cold front, next day 29/18

_t12 ____ Dec 2, 1942 __ 40 __ 58 _ 18 ____ cold front, next day max 30 min 18

_t12 ____ Jan 23, 1957 _ 40 __ 60 _ 20 ____ cold front, next day max 27 min 16

_t12 ____ Apr 27, 1962 _ 40 __ 91 _ 51 _____ warming, prev day 71/45, next 89/62

_t12 ____ Apr 3, 1967 __ 40 __ 76 _ 36 ____ cold front (prev day 81/61, next day 50/32)

_t12 ____ Apr 12, 1977 _ 40 __ 90 _ 50 ____ warming (prev day 56/42, next day 88/60)

_t12 ____ Mar 18, 1989 _40 __ 77 _ 37 ____ cold front (prev day 70/42, (77/37), next day 46/31)

_t12 ____ Apr 27, 1990 _ 40 __ 91 _ 51 ____ warming, next day 90/69

_t12 ____ Apr 4, 1995 __ 40 __ 68 _ 28 ___ cold front, next day 39/23

_t20 ____ Apr 8 1871 ___ 39 __ 85 _ 46 ____ next two days very warm (83, 80)

_t20 ____ Jan 10, 1876 _ 39 __ 60 _ 21 ____ cold front (max 9th 56, max 11th 24) **

_t20 ____ Apr 19, 1897 _ 39 __ 68 _ 29 ____ cold front (max 20th 43 min 24)

_t20 ____ Apr 1, 1917 ___ 39 __ 83 _ 44 ____could have been either or both (62, 83, 54)

_t20 ____ Mar 26, 1922_ 39 __ 76 _ 37 ____ warming, prev day 55/40, next day 62/53

_t20 ____ Dec 8, 1927 __ 39 __ 65 _ 26 ____ cold front (next day max 26) **

_t20 ____ Feb 8, 1933 __ 39 __ 60 _ 21 ____ cold front (next day max 24) **

_t20 ____ Mar 9, 1987 __ 39 __ 62 _ 23 ____ cold front (prev day 76F, next day 28/15) record hi to low max in 2d

_t20 ____ Mar 8, 2005 __ 39 __57 _ 18 ____ cold front (prev day 63/43, next day 31/16)

_t20 ____ Jan 13, 2018 __ 39 __58 _ 19 ____ cold front (prev day 61/44, next day 25/15)

_t30 ____ May 10 1874 _ 38 __ 90 _ 52 ____ cold front, morning low prob'ly 65-70

_t30 ____ Feb 27, 1880 _ 38 __ 68 _ 30 ___ warming, next two days 56, 69 (LYD)

_t30 ____ Feb 16, 1896 _ 38 __ 44 __ 6 ___ cold front, max 15th 54, max 17th 7 F **

_t30 ____ Dec 15, 1901 _ 38 __ 60 _ 22 ___ cold front, max 14th 58, max 16th 26

_t30 ____ Apr 27, 1915 _ 38 __ 92 _ 54 ___ probably cold front (see above Apr 25) ** 2nd entry in 3d

_t30 ____ Mar 19, 1918 _ 38 __ 76 _ 38 ____ cold front more likely (next day 52/36)

_t30 ____ Dec 14, 1919 _ 38 __ 60 _ 22 ___ cold front (61, 60, 27 max 13-15)

_t30 ____ Jan 27, 1925 _ 38 __ 42 __ 4 ___ cold front (next day min -2, max 14)

_t30 ____ Mar 16, 1935 _ 38 __ 77 _ 39 ___ warming as prev day max 43, next day max 67 (range 34 cf)

_t30 ____ Apr 21, 1936 _ 38 __ 81 _ 43 ___ cold front (next day 54/35)

_t30 ____ Mar 3, 1938 __38 __ 49 _ 11 ___ cold front (next day 29/9)

_t30 ____ Apr 25, 1960 _38 __ 87 _ 49 ___ warming more likely (70/45 prev, 70/52 next) or t'stm?

_t30 ____ Feb 25, 1970 _38 __ 54 _ 16 ___ cold front (next day 26/9)

________________________

^ Jan 26, 1978 perhaps comes to mind, had a 36F range 58 down to 22

 

 

 

[donsutherland1]

3 minutes ago, Roger Smith said:

I ran a program on the data base and here is the full list of 38+ daily ranges (1869-2022); as Don mentioned, 48 is the maximum but in terms of winter synoptics 43 (58/15) on Jan 9, 1978 seems to be the largest range from this type of deep freeze plunge (the record was a cold front too but in late March 1921).

The occasions with ** marking are also in the list of largest day to day changes in maximum temperature that I posted earlier in the thread and will update from 23rd and 24th max data.

The largest change there was 41 deg in Feb 1918. 

I have identified the cause of the large range which can be warming especially earlier in the records when there was a smaller urban heat island, at the onset of very warm spells. So the list of largest ranges caused by a daily cooling trend is smaller than this list, as about one third that I have identified are large (mostly spring month) warmings rather than created by a cold front.

This is a long list but it may help anyone interested in finding similar synoptic situations. Will edit in Dec 23, 2022 when settled.

 

Rank ___ Date ______ Range from Max, Min ___range due wx colder or warmer? 

_ 01 ____ Mar 28, 1921 _ 48 __ 82, 34 ____ cold front (prev day 60/47, next day 42/26)

_ 02 ____ Apr 25, 1915 _ 44 __ 91 _ 47 ____ could have been either or both (67,91,72,92,54)  

_t03 ____ Apr 7, 1929 __ 43 __ 89 _ 46 ____ warming from prev day max 56, next day 88

_t03 ____ Jan 9, 1978 __ 43 __ 58 _ 15 ____ cold front (next day 21/12) ^

_ 05 ____ Mar 13, 1990 _ 42 __ 85 _ 43 ___ warm spell with large diurnal ranges (also 35 range 15th)

_t06 ____ Feb 20, 1918 _ 41 __ 59 _ 18 ____ cold front, next day max 18 (this is largest day to day change) **

_t06 ____ Mar 18, 1934 _41 __ 71 _ 30 ____ cold front, next day max 36 min 22 **

_t06 ____ May 19, 1962 _41 __ 99 _ 58 ____ warming, prev day 89/56, next 90/64. (May's highest  max)

_t06 ____ Mar 20, 1986 _41 __ 62 _ 21 ____ cold front, next day 36/18

_t06 ____ Dec 22, 1998 _41 __ 63 _ 22 ____ cold front, next day 29/18

_t11 ____ Dec 2, 1942 __ 40 __ 58 _ 18 ____ cold front, next day max 30 min 18

_t11 ____ Jan 23, 1957 _ 40 __ 60 _ 20 ____ cold front, next day max 27 min 16

_t11 ____ Apr 27, 1962 _ 40 __ 91 _ 51 _____ warming, prev day 71/45, next 89/62

_t11 ____ Apr 3, 1967 __ 40 __ 76 _ 36 ____ cold front (prev day 81/61, next day 50/32)

_t11 ____ Apr 12, 1977 _ 40 __ 90 _ 50 ____ warming (prev day 56/42, next day 88/60)

_t11 ____ Mar 18, 1989 _40 __ 77 _ 37 ____ cold front (prev day 70/42, (77/37), next day 46/31)

_t11 ____ Apr 27, 1990 _ 40 __ 91 _ 51 ____ warming, next day 90/69

_t11 ____ Apr 4, 1995 __ 40 __ 68 _ 28 ___ cold front, next day 39/23

_t19 ____ Apr 8 1871 ___ 39 __ 85 _ 46 ____ next two days very warm (83, 80)

_t19 ____ Jan 10, 1876 _ 39 __ 60 _ 21 ____ cold front (max 9th 56, max 11th 24) **

_t19 ____ Apr 19, 1897 _ 39 __ 68 _ 29 ____ cold front (max 20th 43 min 24)

_t19 ____ Apr 1, 1917 ___ 39 __ 83 _ 44 ____could have been either or both (62, 83, 54)

_t19 ____ Mar 26, 1922_ 39 __ 76 _ 37 ____ warming, prev day 55/40, next day 62/53

_t19 ____ Dec 8, 1927 __ 39 __ 65 _ 26 ____ cold front (next day max 26) **

_t19 ____ Feb 8, 1933 __ 39 __ 60 _ 21 ____ cold front (next day max 24) **

_t19 ____ Mar 9, 1987 __ 39 __ 62 _ 23 ____ cold front (prev day 76F, next day 28/15) record hi to low max in 2d

_t19 ____ Mar 8, 2005 __ 39 __57 _ 18 ____ cold front (prev day 63/43, next day 31/16)

_t19 ____ Jan 13, 2018 __ 39 __58 _ 19 ____ cold front (prev day 61/44, next day 25/15)

_t29 ____ May 10 1874 _ 38 __ 90 _ 52 ____ cold front, morning low prob'ly 65-70

_t29 ____ Feb 27, 1880 _ 38 __ 68 _ 30 ___ warming, next two days 56, 69 (LYD)

_t29 ____ Feb 16, 1896 _ 38 __ 44 __ 6 ___ cold front, max 15th 54, max 17th 7 F **

_t29 ____ Dec 15, 1901 _ 38 __ 60 _ 22 ___ cold front, max 14th 58, max 16th 26

_t29 ____ Apr 27, 1915 _ 38 __ 92 _ 54 ___ probably cold front (see above Apr 25) ** 2nd entry in 3d

_t29 ____ Mar 19, 1918 _ 38 __ 76 _ 38 ____ cold front more likely (next day 52/36)

_t29 ____ Dec 14, 1919 _ 38 __ 60 _ 22 ___ cold front (61, 60, 27 max 13-15)

_t29 ____ Jan 27, 1925 _ 38 __ 42 __ 4 ___ cold front (next day min -2, max 14)

_t29 ____ Mar 16, 1935 _ 38 __ 77 _ 39 ___ warming as prev day max 43, next day max 67 (range 34 cf)

_t29 ____ Apr 21, 1936 _ 38 __ 81 _ 43 ___ cold front (next day 54/35)

_t29 ____ Mar 3, 1938 __38 __ 49 _ 11 ___ cold front (next day 29/9)

_t29 ____ Apr 25, 1960 _38 __ 87 _ 49 ___ warming more likely (70/45 prev, 70/52 next) or t'stm?

_t29 ____ Feb 25, 1970 _38 __ 54 _ 16 ___ cold front (next day 26/9)

________________________

^ Jan 26, 1978 perhaps comes to mind, had a 36F range 58 down to 22

 

 

 

NYC is now at a daily range of 48 degrees. 

[Brasiluvsnow]

currently 9 degrees in New City,,,,walked the dog = that was a quick walk and as others have said already the winds are kicking

 

[MANDA]

Temperature free fall has leveled off here.  Has been 2.7 for a while now.

High point -2.

[Dark Star]

1 hour ago, Nibor said:

Not anymore, I've got to psyche myself up just to walk the dog...

[psv88]

From 58.5 to 10.5 - quite the drop for the coastal plain. 

[Roger Smith]

5 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

NYC is now at a daily range of 48 degrees. 

Let's go for 50 ... sets up a chance of breaking the record day to day change in maximum which I believe was 41 in the Feb 1918 event shown in the list. Will edit my table for that list which is somewhere back in this thread, when tomorrow is in the books. 

[Rjay]

After a high of 58, it's down to 11.  

[allgame830]

Down to 7 degrees. 

[sussexcountyobs]

We will have a white Christmas here. Currently 1.0° with light snow falling. 

[donsutherland1]

At 11 pm EST, the temperature in New York City was 9F (-12.8C). The temperature has now fallen 49F (27.2C) from the day's high. That is the largest daily range on record. Records go back to 1869 with 56,165 days (including today) for which daily range data is available.

[guinness77]

Seems as though it’s finally backed off a bit. Getting 35-40mph gusts now instead of house rockers I was getting an hour or two ago. I know it’s gonna be annoyingly breezy until Sunday night but at least it seems the worst is over. 
 

The 40 degree range in high to low temps today are absolutely bananas. Still can’t believe the difference in temperature in the errands I ran at 2 and getting my daughter off the bus at 3:30. 

[sussexcountyobs]

+0.5 right now. Just flurries falling.

[MJO812]

6 degrees here

[gravitylover]

2/-5/W5 CLR makes it a 53° drop since 6am. I'm glad the wind is so light or I'm sure there would be lots more tree damage and power problems.