brooklynwx99 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 yeah, it's pretty bleak outside of the signal around the 14th or so. that one seems kinda legit given the PNA spike associated with it, and it's been consistent on ensembles sucks, but what can you do 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Heisy said: There’s been a wave showing up on the GEFS a few runs in a row now for the 12-14th. EPS has it too I suppose. 12z Canadian showed the wave in C US at end of run, but didn’t look too great. Only long range period worth watching right now imo . Yeah, that's the next threat after 5-7th. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: yeah, it's pretty bleak outside of the signal around the 14th or so. that one seems kinda legit given the PNA spike associated with it, and it's been consistent on ensembles sucks, but what can you do Just stating the obvious but yeah ..that signal's been there for a week or more. It's ranged from the 12th to 16th actually, moving to and fro within that range. It's interesting that it's still there, despite having very little numerical teleconnection support. The PNA spike you are talking about - I think that is more expression in the PNAP ( or perennial north american pattern )? The numerical -based curve at CPC does not flag index-scaled event, at all. So that's probably what that is, in that time range. A sub-index event ...well, sub "main" index perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Snowcrazed71 said: Wow.. this forum is dysfunctional. All we see is attacks on everyone thoughts of what we could see. It's all negative. Not a setting that makes for a good forum or a decent discussion. Also.. I though we had a separate thread for Winter Banter? It all seems to be in the January discussion ( or any strom thread we create ). Lastly, why in the hell do we allow the few members that post just to antagonize to be able to post at all? Isn't their a moderator that can block that? Trust me.. many of you guys and gals on here are great. We all get frustrated that the Winter has been pretty sad as of late. But... Don't you guys get tired of the banter and also the negative posts that we are seeing. Let's just see what happens with the upcoming few months. It is far from over. Even if we have a 2-3 week period like we had last year towards February, isn't that worth something? you must be new here, because it’s been like that for the entirety of this forum’s existence 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I say the same for the APATT crew. I like reality, not fantasy. It’s fine to point out the actual model runs, lack of substantial or interesting systems, etc. but the ad nauseam whining got old a long time ago. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I’m beginning to seriously consider that a long duration ice storm is enroute N & W of I-95 I haven’t seen any sign of that. Where do you see an ice storm? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 When a model looks awful, just do what we’re doing now and not talk about it. Just let the silence speak for itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: It’s fine to point out the actual model runs, lack of substantial or interesting systems, etc. but the ad nauseam whining got old a long time ago. Honestly it’s more personality differences than anything. Some are glass half full and some are glass half empty people. In all aspects of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I haven’t seen any sign of that. Where do you see an ice storm? to be fair could be a prolonged period of freezing drizzle Thursday in our area .. not exactly an "ice storm" but maybe "long duration" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I haven’t seen any sign of that. Where do you see an ice storm? It’s in much of the modeling for long duration light zr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, WxWatcher007 said: When a model looks awful, just do what we’re doing now and not talk about it. Just let the silence speak for itself. Provides a learning op, to explore why one 'needs' them to look like anything at all, other than what they are - tools in a tool chest. Heh, imagine someone that once saw a screw driver turn a screw, and they were so enamored by the screw's turning that they have to look at their tool chest and the screw driver every 6 hours..."weather" there are any screws to turn or not. Kind of a 'screwy' metaphor but hey. Seriously though...these were tools invented ...I guess the rudiments of them were mid last Century, but computing power was advancing in tandem. But in modernity, the liquid access to them, in loops and so forth, and varying dimensions ..et al. It really is like a cinema, a new movie, telling "meta" verse version, every 6 hours. There's a difference in this kind of cinema, though. Very big one. This one has a chance to become real - that gives it a personal connection to people, obviously that would be the case. Doesn't take a psycho dissertation to advance that hypothesis. I dunno. Maybe thinking about this stuff, even if only half on point and true, is enough to mitigate some of the model 'd-drip' reliance. It's kind of a guilty pleasure to engage in it to be 'triggered' in that way, anyway. Hopefully, it doesn't affect one's mood outside of the engagement - but I suspect it kinda does... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: It’s in much of the modeling for long duration light zr Lol .. you LOVE your ice storms. Don't think that's happening though. I'd rather it be a long duration of sleet and snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said: Lol .. you LOVE your ice storms. Don't think that's happening though. I'd rather it be a long duration of sleet and snow! Ya that aint happening…no ice storm. He’s trying to drum up some positive conversation…which I don’t blame him in trying. But theres no ice storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: It’s fine to point out the actual model runs, lack of substantial or interesting systems, etc. but the ad nauseam whining got old a long time ago. Yes. This is my point, and only my point. I’m not an all positive all the time guy on here. I just can’t take the whining. Now we got folks whining about a vacation lmao…given us a dam break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Honestly it’s more personality differences than anything. Some are glass half full and some are glass half empty people. In all aspects of life. There is a balance ...given reality ...if you live on the cape and want to stay glass half full ..delusional becomes a attractive option or another hobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: There is a balance ...given reality ...if you live on the cape and want to stay glass half full ..delusional becomes a attractive option or another hobby Lol…Marthas Vineyard has more snow on the season than most all of SNE…so just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Honestly it’s more personality differences than anything. Some are glass half full and some are glass half empty people. In all aspects of life. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen the whining reach this level. Not in 2013, not in 2015 and not in the horrific Jan/Feb/Mar 2020 stretch. It’s gotten embarrassing. 5 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ya that aint happening…no ice storm. He’s trying to drum up some positive conversation…which I don’t blame him in trying. But theres no ice storm. There is certainly icing on the table nW of 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: There is certainly icing on the table nW of 95 There’s no QPF really for a real ice storm. It does look like there could be a prolonged period of freezing drizzle though so things could certainly get pretty slippery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, ORH_wxman said: There’s no QPF really for a real ice storm. It does look like there could be a prolonged period of freezing drizzle though so things could certainly get pretty slippery. Enough to fuck some ones day up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Honestly it’s more personality differences than anything. Some are glass half full and some are glass half empty people. In all aspects of life. And the engineers think the glass is twice the size of what's needed. I was pleased to see that Wednesday's super torch has dimmed to a candle for points north of southern Maine. Should the low 40s verify rather than the earlier mid 50s forecast, the ground will remain white as temps slide down toward normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I’m not sure I’ve ever seen the whining reach this level. Not in 2013, not in 2015 and not in the horrific Jan/Feb/Mar 2020 stretch. It’s gotten embarrassing. It is tough to watch for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: There’s no QPF really for a real ice storm. It does look like there could be a prolonged period of freezing drizzle though so things could certainly get pretty slippery. WTTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Enough to fuck some ones day up. Just a light glaze can really cause problems, but I do not see an ice storm as I would call one. Is there an official criteria for "ice storm"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I’m not sure I’ve ever seen the whining reach this level. Not in 2013, not in 2015 and not in the horrific Jan/Feb/Mar 2020 stretch. It’s gotten embarrassing. Agreed. We need Friday to pull through with an advisory event for the area….that would do all of us a bunch of Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: WTTE Well I think the word some icing, and an ice storm are a lil different. Lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I’m not sure I’ve ever seen the whining reach this level. Not in 2013, not in 2015 and not in the horrific Jan/Feb/Mar 2020 stretch. It’s gotten embarrassing. You know that's what I've been saying all along. I've said it in a very easy and simple way originally, but I just had people give me the weenie symbol or make a comment about my post. It is embarrassing. I'm 51, have a very good job. Love, daughter. We just adopted. Life is good. But when I come on here, it's always chaos, people putting people down. Even with my comments, when I try to cool things down, I get put down. I come on here because I want to discuss the weather. I want to discuss what things might be coming. If it doesn't snow it doesn't snow. It's just the way it is. But there's so many people in here that just attack and put down others for what they have to say. It's actually a joke. The thought has crossed my mind to just stop coming on here. But I keep coming because I'm hoping that people can just discuss the weather. Even if it's something small, sometimes that leads to something larger. Or something that surprises us. That's what made me fall in love with the whether when I was a kid. Even in today's modern technology, there are surprises and things we can't predict. Hope this gets through to done off you and we get a real forum going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Just a light glaze can really cause problems, but I do not see an ice storm as I would call one. Is there an official criteria for "ice storm"? I believe it’s .50” or more..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 DIT needs ice storm talk to hold onto his positivity otherwise things may get dicey I would like a good ice storm . I’ve never really experienced one in Nashua of any significance in the last few years and nothing I can ever recall being even moderate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Agreed. We need Friday to pull through with an advisory event for the area….that would do all of us a bunch of Good. Not likely gonna see anything here, nor do I care. Pattern is garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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