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January 2023 Obs/Discussion


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1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Why hasn’t there been much if any upslope this winter after each cutter? It’s rain after rain after rain and no upslope on NW flow 

We haven’t had those lows that park north of Maine with a moist reach around for the mtns really. A little here and there, but it hasn’t been a good pattern for it. 

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15 minutes ago, Heisy said:


We should have a window from around Jan 22-Feb12 to get some snow if the ensembles are right. We fail during this potential -EPO regime that could take hold then god help us all


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We’ll see how poleward that ridge gets out west. If it doesn’t get sufficiently poleward, then that period is likely to be a dud…at least in terms of major snow potential. We’ll prob get something in New England just because out of sheer chance and latitude, but I’ll be watching the ridge amplitude…esp since there doesn’t seem to be any Atlantic blocking during that period, though that could always change. 

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2 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Looking at moving our lift tickets to another day later in the winter. May still go for the trip, since we cannot get a refund at this point, but definitely tossing around the possibility of booking for sometime in late Feb or March and hoping it’s better 

There’s a ton of antique places up there, ski museums etc. Don’t let vacation be ruined! Make lemonade out of a lemon!

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53 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We haven’t had those lows that park north of Maine with a moist reach around for the mtns really. A little here and there, but it hasn’t been a good pattern for it. 

Yeah it’s no 2011-12 type shitty winter where still getting big NW flow.

We have a lot of like tonight with 1-3”.  Some years those are 6-10”, ha.

Also just doesn’t get cold enough. Like this past week we had a dense 3-4” of upslope that with colder temps can be 8-12”.  We just haven’t had negative teens at 850mb which is the sweet spot for fake snow.  

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23 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Looking at moving our lift tickets to another day later in the winter. May still go for the trip, since we cannot get a refund at this point, but definitely tossing around the possibility of booking for sometime in late Feb or March and hoping it’s better 

 

21 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

There’s a ton of antique places up there, ski museums etc. Don’t let vacation be ruined! Make lemonade out of a lemon!

Do what the man says.  There's plenty to do.  Shop, beer, edibles, sex, tubing.

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

There’s a ton of antique places up there, ski museums etc. Don’t let vacation be ruined! Make lemonade out of a lemon!

Isn’t he going to Sunday River . If he is going w kids just cancel the trip , if it’s with the wife ..get enough liquor so everyone consents to a bangathon, spice things up , pop a cialis . 

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1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

Isn’t he going to Sunday River . If he is going w kids just cancel the trip , if it’s with the wife ..get enough liquor so everyone consents to a bangathon.

Thought he was going to NH and staying in Jackson . Is Kiss in town ?

https://twitter.com/bob_robertnash/status/1612556760463597571?s=46&t=08ghPCSWmh6deYqHacikMQ

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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah it’s no 2011-12 type shitty winter where still getting big NW flow.

We have a lot of like tonight with 1-3”.  Some years those are 6-10”, ha.

Also just doesn’t get cold enough. Like this past week we had a dense 3-4” of upslope that with colder temps can be 8-12”.  We just haven’t had negative teens at 850mb which is the sweet spot for fake snow.  

This has been more like 2015-16…esp recently with the shitty El Niño pattern. It does look like we go more favorable El Niño pattern for later in the month but not before another 10-12 days of horse shit. 

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7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

This has been more like 2015-16…esp recently with the shitty El Niño pattern. It does look like we go more favorable El Niño pattern for later in the month but not before another 10-12 days of horse shit. 

Yeah and 2006-07.

Interesting the years that have low Mansfield stake totals right now recovered to decent depths at some point besides ‘15-16 that never recovered.

We are at 14” right now.

1982-83 was 10” now, near 80” later in the season.

2006-07 had same 14” depth as today, saw 100” later in winter.

2015-16 had 12” today, but only hit 38” I think.

We’ll see what trajectory this one takes.

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2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah and 2006-07.

Interesting the years that have low Mansfield stake totals right now recovered to decent depths at some point besides ‘15-16 that never recovered.

We are at 14” right now.

1982-83 was 10” now, near 80” later in the season.

2006-07 had same 14” depth as today, saw 100” later in winter.

2015-16 had 12” today, but only hit 38” I think.

We’ll see what trajectory this one takes.

All 3 of those were El Niño’s too (2 of them super ninos) where climo is a lot more favorable in the 2nd half of winter.

Harder to rally in a La Niña but maybe we do this year. 

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1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

All 3 of those were El Niño’s too (2 of them super ninos) where climo is a lot more favorable in the 2nd half of winter.

Harder to rally in a La Niña but maybe we do this year. 

Interesting.  The El Niño’s recovered pretty decently.  Some huge storms later in 06-07 and 82-83.

What was 1964-65?  That’s another sneaky one near this season’s depth and that recovered to around 60” of snowpack.

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3 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Interesting.  The El Niño’s recovered pretty decently.  Some huge storms later in 06-07 and 82-83.

What was 1964-65?  That’s another sneaky one near this season’s depth and that recovered to around 60” of snowpack.

‘64-65 was a weak La Niña. 

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21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

This has been more like 2015-16…esp recently with the shitty El Niño pattern. It does look like we go more favorable El Niño pattern for later in the month but not before another 10-12 days of horse shit. 

Yeah, i was thinking that as well. In terms of snowfall to date and the foreseeable future it's about the worst start to winter since 15-16. That winter managed a double-digit departure in Dec for almost every major climo site in SNE/Tri-state area. I can't think of any other month or year which that happened, at least since 2000 anyways.

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2 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Looking at moving our lift tickets to another day later in the winter. May still go for the trip, since we cannot get a refund at this point, but definitely tossing around the possibility of booking for sometime in late Feb or March and hoping it’s better 

I have held off booking a VT trip so far.   Don't want to pay big bucks for the family and have 01-02 type conditions.   (I have the epic pass for a west coast trip so that helps)

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4 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

TWC music from '93-94 winter. Basically its code for "the pattern looks like a cold gradient pattern" where we are on the cold side. Week 3 looks more classic big ridge out west but week 4 starts going toward more typical La Nina look but it's cold at least...not a torch February look. Everything retros a bit in week 5/6 but still seasonable around here so it would be a decent pattern....though we're getitng into utter clown range at that point.

Duh, how did I not know that?

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