Professional Lurker Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 600' 5 miles from the vt line. It's trying like hell to snow. White rain. Hoping to dynamically cool. I can only assume that 3-400' above me it's pounding.Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmcginvt Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Professional Lurker said: 600' 5 miles from the vt line. It's trying like hell to snow. White rain. Hoping to dynamically cool. I can only assume that 3-400' above me it's pounding. Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk checks out thats VT/NH/MA borders, Bernardston def in the weird doesnt know what it wants to do zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmcginvt Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 for posterity sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 If modeled track Across S shore of Boston holds There appears to me to be siggy bust potential for a lot of the GYX forecast area South of Jackson NH and the Maine interior CP . I just wonder if modest rates and barely serviceable temps is gonna get the job done to efficiently accumulate outside of elevations and orographic assisted areas If track holds I think the elevation component and level will be a little higher than most anticipate **However if we see a more progressive messenger ticks as the low approaches SNE and if it crosses outer cape cod then the track will probably be suffice to accumulate in many of the aforementioned areas , but rates will still be a potential issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 For what it’s worth the 6z nam and 0z EPS both make a wider right turn and were a bit colder . About 25 miles or so . We shall see if this can trend a tad more to a more progressive approach Late evening and overnite (which can happen / messenger ticks) or just a hiccup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: If modeled track Across S shore of Boston holds There appears to me to be siggy bust potential for a lot of the GYX forecast area South of Jackson NH and the Maine interior CP . I just wonder if modest rates and barely serviceable temps is gonna get the job done to efficiently accumulate . I am skeptical of decent amounts outside of elevations and orographic assisted areas I think the elevation component and level will be a little higher than most anticipate **However if we see a more progressive messenger ticks as the low approaches SNE and if it crosses outer cape cod then the track will probably be suffice to accumulate in many of the aforementioned areas Oh I know it. I don't see enough reasons to take a sledgehammer to the forecast, instead a scalpel. These kinds of a storms (with marginal valley temps) are a PITA to get into the grids. When 1 degree makes the difference between accumulating snow or not, it's hard to find a tool that gives you what you want. It's much more simple to manipulate a coastal front to get the snow totals you want. Looking at the modeled snow depth products, there is not much to write home about outside of the higher terrain, which gives me visions of Scooter standing on the runway. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Zero inches. Rain. 38F.catpaws. White rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Oh I know it. I don't see enough reasons to take a sledgehammer to the forecast, instead a scalpel. These kinds of a storms (with marginal valley temps) are a PITA to get into the grids. When 1 degree makes the difference between accumulating snow or not, it's hard to find a tool that gives you what you want. It's much more simple to manipulate a coastal front to get the snow totals you want. Looking at the modeled snow depth products, there is not much to write home about outside of the higher terrain, which gives me visions of Scooter standing on the runway. It’s realistically a impossible forecast And one that’s very difficult to win lol there maybe indications of messenger ticks with regard to SLP/ ML tracks in last euro and nam so should be fun . Im heading to wildcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 National Weather Service Boston/Norton MA 334 AM EST Fri Dec 16 2022 ...ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL CONFINED TO NORTHWEST HARTFORD COUNTY AND AT ELEVATIONS AROUND 1000 FT AND HIGHER... Most of Hartford county will experience rain today and tonight. The northwest corner of the county where elevations are at or greater than 1000 ft, temperatures will be cold enough to support heavy wet snow. Storm total snow accumulations of 3-6 inches are possible in this small area of the county, including the town of Hartland. Isolated amounts up to 8 inches are possible toward the Litchfield and Hampden county lines. Heaviest snow falls late today. The combination of heavy wet snow and gusty northeast winds, may result in power outages in this region. In addition, snow covered roads will make for treacherous travel conditions. BL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, TalcottWx said: National Weather Service Boston/Norton MA 334 AM EST Fri Dec 16 2022 ...ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL CONFINED TO NORTHWEST HARTFORD COUNTY AND AT ELEVATIONS AROUND 1000 FT AND HIGHER... Most of Hartford county will experience rain today and tonight. The northwest corner of the county where elevations are at or greater than 1000 ft, temperatures will be cold enough to support heavy wet snow. Storm total snow accumulations of 3-6 inches are possible in this small area of the county, including the town of Hartland. Isolated amounts up to 8 inches are possible toward the Litchfield and Hampden county lines. Heaviest snow falls late today. The combination of heavy wet snow and gusty northeast winds, may result in power outages in this region. In addition, snow covered roads will make for treacherous travel conditions. BL Grab the car , the edibles and let’s see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Not sure if the snow is going to verify here this morning. Nam says it does but I thought it was snow by now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Grab the car , the edibles and let’s see At work. I'm tired AF. Been a long week. Real sour childhood feeling of disappointment this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 NAM is cold up here. 32.0° with flurries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Today I learned 'catpaws' is not a universally used term. LOL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I have now sent 10 emails about catpaws this AM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 41 and rain here in the sub tropical low lands of E Ct; about .12 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Looks like some boundary about 3 miles North of me here in trashua , NH . 33 in Merrimack , 33 in Amherst NH 38 ASH. Leaving shortly to drive north wonder if that area around MHT and just South and SW can get in on a thump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 That's odd. It's 33 here. Raining from what I see, but surprised it's down to 33? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Looks like latest HRRR matches up pretty well with the 33 isotherm south of Manchester ,NH hrrr gives the MHT 3.8” next few hrs Maybe that’s the SWFE ish part of this system that can Work it’s magic on initial thump Before coastal moves in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 My 3 year old wasn’t happy this morning, ran right to the window to look for the snow, Learning the disappointment early on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Temp fell from 38 to 36 in Nashua , 34 N side of town now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Who would have thought FL and CT have a lot in common; snow storm in Litchfield hills with tropical storm conditions here in E CT; like the FL Panhandle and key’s during winter months Lol! . Cold, wet, mud blows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 ORH is 39. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: ORH is 39. We got some cold bleeding down now from the NNE in ASH . Could be interesting commute for ASH to MHT . Down to 35 . 32 MHT now from 37 Wonder if the cold will bleed down Into N orh hills next hour or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 The warmest model the Euro wasn’t warm enough . Rap, Nam, Gfs all were awful on temp profiles . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: We got some cold bleeding down now from the NNE in ASH . Could be interesting commute for ASH to MHT . Down to 35 . 32 MHT now from 37 Wonder if the cold will bleed down Into N orh hills next hour or so They need winds to back for sure. That might be why the models had a big gradient there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: We got some cold bleeding down now from the NNE in ASH . Could be interesting commute for ASH to MHT . Down to 35 . 32 MHT now from 37 Wonder if the cold will bleed down Into N orh hills next hour or so If that holds, Phil is coming for MHT areas, especially higher up west of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: They need winds to back for sure. That might be why the models had a big gradient there. You can see that cold has now seeped down to Ashby and N side of Ashburnham at 32 while S side of that town is 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: You can see that cold has now seeped down to Ashby and N side of Ashburnham at 32 while S side of that town is 37 Yeah it might move a little more south, but not sure to ORH. Euro ironically too warm in SNH. Cstl front will Be key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Looks like some boundary about 3 miles North of me here in trashua , NH . 33 in Merrimack , 33 in Amherst NH 38 ASH. Leaving shortly to drive north wonder if that area around MHT and just South and SW can get in on a thump I’m in London but hubby says as he drove south that Manchester was the rain snow line as of 5am. He said viz was low and driving was slow coming down 93 from exit 17 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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