WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, leesburg 04 said: Loudoun is the same way there's no way kids in Ji's hood in eastern Loudoun should get off school because it snowed or iced in western Loudoun In a "normal" winter (if we ever have such a thing), there's probably 1-3 days where an east/west split would make sense for a HoCo school delay or closing. And I think that's just not worth the fight and logistical headache to make that work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: In a "normal" winter (if we ever have such a thing), there's probably 1-3 days where an east/west split would make sense for a HoCo school delay or closing. And I think that's just not worth the fight and logistical headache to make that work out. Same in Fairfax County. Really wouldn't make any sense in the grand scheme of things. Funny how when I was a kid it was all up to the individual schools - public or private - to make the call on whether to have a snow day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 WB 9Z SREF, nudged East a little this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: Given the redistricting experiences I've watched, I'd imagine some very angry people with strange alliances of convenience. "Easiest" way would be to have the Glenelg HS and its feeder schools separated for these sort of events, but I've seen no major effort to try and do something like the Hereford zone for HoCo. its probably easier for BaltCo because its a north/south split vs east/west. The Hunt Valley/Cockeysville area being the cut-off for that zone makes perfect sense. Anything north of there is the Hereford zone, 4 elementary schools, 1 middle, 1 high school. Once you get down to HV/Cockeysville it gets messier with all the districts and locations of schools. And as I have learned, it could be 30 and puking snow here while its 35 and rain at work in HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I know when I was a kid in Harford county there was chatter about splitting off North Harford HS like the Hereford zone. As a kid outside that zone, I was of course violently opposed . Hasn’t happened still. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, WxUSAF said: I know when I was a kid in Harford county there was chatter about splitting off North Harford HS like the Hereford zone. As a kid outside that zone, I was of course violently opposed . Hasn’t happened still. Ha! I remember that too growing up in AA County. Would always silently curse those in the "hereford zone" and their snow days If only I had known where my future would lead me 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Schools in Philly are had a number and would call into a KYW 1060 AM in the morning with their posture (2hr delay, modified Kindergarten, etc.). As a kid, you'd be up at 6am waiting on your number to be called. It was like winning the lottery: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12z nam looks like a few hours of morning beat down incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSharkWX Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, DarkSharkWX said: The best conditions for optimal ice accretion are greater wind speeds(takes away hear from surfaces and advects cooler air), small droplets falling through a shallow melting layer, lower wetbulb temperatures, and lighter precipitation rates(heavier precipitation rates lead to more runoff and less efficient accretion). This is what a study found about precipitation rate, wind speed, wetbulb temperatures, and how they correlated to ILR. Freezing rain can occur even with temperatures above freezing, but if the wetbulb temperature is above freezing, freezing rain can't occur. The study generally found that wetbulb temperatures between 27-30F, greater windspeeds, and lighter precipitation rates all contribute to more efficient ice accretion. Here is the link if anyone is interested in it: https://training.weather.gov/wdtd/courses/woc/winter/fcst-hzds/ice-storm-accum/presentation_html5.html 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: Schools in Philly are had a number and would call into a KYW 1060 AM in the morning with their posture (2hr delay, modified Kindergarten, etc.). As a kid, you'd be up at 6am waiting on your number to be called. It was like winning the lottery: That was my childhood, waiting for 803 to be called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said: 12z nam looks like a few hours of morning beat down incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said: 3k is very sleety to start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: That was my childhood, waiting for 803 to be called. My K-8 was #253, high school was #322. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: 3k is very sleety to start. about .4 of qpf IMBY before I hit 33. yay to pouring sleet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 WB 3K NAM….all the kids get off or are virtual Th. if this is correct. This will verify because I have a new desk I have been waiting to get for 6 months that is scheduled to be delivered TH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Sometimes I hate living in Richmond. You guys just 100 miles north always luck out! I'm praying just to see a flake or two early Thursday morning on my way to work, anyone have any weenie info where I can hope even more for this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: 3k is very sleety to start. it holds frozen through 13z in and around DC. not bad? with that kind of forecast, definitely a 2 hour delay + situation for MD counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 NAM would imply advisory level event for everyone N&W of I-95 for IP/ZR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Paleocene said: it holds frozen through 13z in and around DC. not bad? with that kind of forecast, definitely a 2 hour delay + situation for MD counties. 2 minutes ago, mappy said: about .4 of qpf IMBY before I hit 33. yay to pouring sleet! I'm skeptical of that much sleet for areas south of @mappy/ @psuhoffman / @HighStakes, etc. But we'll see. If my kids can slant stick 0.1" of sleet accumulation I will take it! Just now, Xeonon said: Sometimes I hate living in Richmond. You guys just 100 miles north always luck out! I'm praying just to see a flake or two early Thursday morning on my way to work, anyone have any weenie info where I can hope even more for this?? There's not going to be any snow for our subforum's region outside of maybe the northern part of the Blue Ridge area or eastern WV/Garrett County MD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The gallons of beet juice brine that will get put down will render this storm impotent. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, mappy said: Ha! I remember that too growing up in AA County. Would always silently curse those in the "hereford zone" and their snow days If only I had known where my future would lead me The worst part about it was they didn't have to make up the snow days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Xeonon said: Sometimes I hate living in Richmond. You guys just 100 miles north always luck out! I'm praying just to see a flake or two early Thursday morning on my way to work, anyone have any weenie info where I can hope even more for this?? We say the same thing about York and Harrisburg. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Interstate said: We say the same thing about York and Harrisburg. Down here in RVA we have this thing called the "Chester Snowhole". It is super irritating especially mid storm when that thing opens up and makes us lose 2-4 inches almost every single storm. I am hoping for another Jan 2016 storm down here, almost 26 inches fell if I remember correctly. Honestly with this system Thursday, I'd be happy with some sleet falling. I think the odds down here in Richmond are less than 15% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: NAM would imply advisory level event for everyone N&W of I-95 for IP/ZR. If the criteria is .25 for warnings we will see those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Xeonon said: Sometimes I hate living in Richmond. You guys just 100 miles north always luck out! I'm praying just to see a flake or two early Thursday morning on my way to work, anyone have any weenie info where I can hope even more for this?? you're welcome to have the sleet. i hate it. 6 minutes ago, Interstate said: The worst part about it was they didn't have to make up the snow days. Right. This year will be different. Balt Co has said schools will have 5 days of actual closures for weather before the switch to virtual learning. For my area, thats great because having to tack on days at the end of year sucks. Last year my kid didn't get out of school until the like 6/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Weather Will said: If the criteria is .25 for warnings we will see those as well. yes, but that's freezing rain. sleet doesn't accrue like freezing rain does. it piles up like snow instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Interstate Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, mappy said: you're welcome to have the sleet. i hate it. Right. This year will be different. Balt Co has said schools will have 5 days of actual closures for weather before the switch to virtual learning. For my area, thats great because having to tack on days at the end of year sucks. Last year my kid didn't get out of school until the like 6/20 I am in the same boat... but I voted against virtual learning, first because my kids are still young and I want them to enjoy the snow. Second, I feel like they really get nothing out of it. Of course, tacking on the days at EOY... is the same... the kids are just there to be there and not learning anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, mappy said: you're welcome to have the sleet. i hate it. Right. This year will be different. Balt Co has said schools will have 5 days of actual closures for weather before the switch to virtual learning. For my area, thats great because having to tack on days at the end of year sucks. Last year my kid didn't get out of school until the like 6/20 HoCo doing the first three virtual, then tacking on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: Hopefully no trees come down on our house. Things look dicey in the mountain areas with the ice and winds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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