beavis1729 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said: My son attends Montana State University which is just an hour or so up the road to West Yellowstone. I’ve visited in both seasons and it’s a cool little town. It’s very quiet in winter. Quite a few sledders but otherwise a pretty quiet stop off point between places like Jackson Hole and Big Sky. It’s really an incredible part of the country in all seasons. They’ve had an incredible winter. They don’t necessary get the huge dumps like the Sierras or Little Cottonwood Canyon, but they are cold and get frequent snows that just pile up all season. I was thinking the same as you, how much time has a place like West Yellowstone spent above freezing since November? Yeah...in most NDJFM periods, it's above freezing for a decent amount of time. Normal high is in the low 40s on 11/1 and 3/31, and it's not horrendously cold (25F) even in mid-January. But this season, above-freezing temps have been very rare...primarily because November, February, and March have been so cold relative to normal. And when it does get above 32F, it's only for an hour or two each day. Here are some quick stats: Between 11/2/22 and 3/28/23, only 13 days have been above 36F. Warmest was 42F on Mar 20. It hit -49F and -44F on Dec 22-23 respectively. Nov 2022 actual average max/min = 29.4/-2.6, departure -10.0 Dec 2022 actual average max/min = 23.4/1.6, departure -1.7 Jan 2023 actual average max/min = 25.5/-0.3, departure -0.9 Feb 2023 actual average max/min = 28.1/-6.7, departure -5.7 Mar 2023 actual average max/min = 31.7/-2.0, departure -8.8 so far (although there are a few days with M in mid-March) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 hours ago, beavis1729 said: Yeah...in most NDJFM periods, it's above freezing for a decent amount of time. Normal high is in the low 40s on 11/1 and 3/31, and it's not horrendously cold (25F) even in mid-January. But this season, above-freezing temps have been very rare...primarily because November, February, and March have been so cold relative to normal. And when it does get above 32F, it's only for an hour or two each day. Here are some quick stats: Between 11/2/22 and 3/28/23, only 13 days have been above 36F. Warmest was 42F on Mar 20. It hit -49F and -44F on Dec 22-23 respectively. Nov 2022 actual average max/min = 29.4/-2.6, departure -10.0 Dec 2022 actual average max/min = 23.4/1.6, departure -1.7 Jan 2023 actual average max/min = 25.5/-0.3, departure -0.9 Feb 2023 actual average max/min = 28.1/-6.7, departure -5.7 Mar 2023 actual average max/min = 31.7/-2.0, departure -8.8 so far (although there are a few days with M in mid-March) That area typically has a very early onset of winter too....it's not like here where big November snows are rare....they usually enter December with already deep snow pack. This year has been pretty ridiculous though...I noticed they have a 62 inch pack currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: That area typically has a very early onset of winter too....it's not like here where big November snows are rare....they usually enter December with already deep snow pack. This year has been pretty ridiculous though...I noticed they have a 62 inch pack currently. 25 to 30 more last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Wow. Mammoth Mountain received 20" more inches of snow last night. That broke their all time snowiest winter. 695" at the Main Lodge and 870" at the summit. What really impressed me is that their current snow depth at their main lodge 275 inches. 22 feet, 11 inches. Crazy. I wonder how wildlife gets around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: Wow. Mammoth Mountain received 20" more inches of snow last night. That broke their all time snowiest winter. 695" at the Main Lodge and 870" at the summit. What really impressed me is that their current snow depth at their main lodge 275 inches. 22 feet, 11 inches. Crazy. I wonder how wildlife gets around? It’s Sierra cement , I would imaging wildlife in Utah May have a harder time but I would guess they have adapted to this a long time ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Alpine meadows at 8k up to 695" on the season....just 12" shy of their record of 707"...they'll prob blow that away over the next couple weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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powderfreak Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: It’s Sierra cement , I would imaging wildlife in Utah May have a harder time but I would guess they have adapted to this a long time ago Utah state park. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I love that even western skiers and riders throw shade about our “man-snow” vs powder. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: 25 to 30 more last night Yep…unfortunately they’re reporting M the last few days in the climo record after the 62” depth on 3/25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Looking at buying a used newer generation 19-22 Ford Ranger. Anyone have one? I like the turbo and better gas mileage. Need a small fuel efficient truck and am looking at a 2 door model. I hate the 4 door car style. I also looked at Chevy Colorado's as they have a small 2 door truck as well. I stopped at my Ford dealer just to see what a new one would cost and a base ranger with 4x4 is like 40k and 6 month wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, BrianW said: Looking at buying a used newer generation 19-22 Ford Ranger. Anyone have one? I like the turbo and better gas mileage. Need a small fuel efficient truck and am looking at a 2 door model. I hate the 4 door car style. I also looked at Chevy Colorado's as they have a small 2 door truck as well. I stopped at my Ford dealer just to see what a new one would cost and a base ranger with 4x4 is like 40k and 6 month wait. Brian, My two cents...... I have a small service company, we currently have 3 Toyota Tacomas for service trucks. I have been running Toyota's since 1990 ALL with the bullet proof 4 cylinder 2.7L engine. Toyota no longer makes a 2 door truck, your choice is access cab or 4 door. All manufactures have come a long way, again this is just my opinion , a few years ago we sold a 2003 tacoma, 2 door with a little over 410,000 miles,(we needed extended cab for extra storage, was the reason for selling etc) a landscape company purchased it and is still going strong! Last Fall I saw the truck, it had about 440,000 miles, other then brakes, batteries here and there and exhaust.....no issues. Philip Good luck on your purchase 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 hours ago, powderfreak said: Utah state park. Shitter's full, Clark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokeupthisam Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 hours ago, powderfreak said: I love that even western skiers and riders throw shade about our “man-snow” vs powder. Good times out there for sure! https://www.alta.com/stories/rolling-in-the-deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, 512high said: Brian, My two cents...... I have a small service company, we currently have 3 Toyota Tacomas for service trucks. I have been running Toyota's since 1990 ALL with the bullet proof 4 cylinder 2.7L engine. Toyota no longer makes a 2 door truck, your choice is access cab or 4 door. All manufactures have come a long way, again this is just my opinion , a few years ago we sold a 2003 tacoma, 2 door with a little over 410,000 miles,(we needed extended cab for extra storage, was the reason for selling etc) a landscape company purchased it and is still going strong! Last Fall I saw the truck, it had about 440,000 miles, other then brakes, batteries here and there and exhaust.....no issues. Philip Good luck on your purchase That's all I've owned since 1991, never had a problem unless you count the drunk driver that totaled one and a huge deer totaled another. I think it was 2019 or 2020 Toyota came out with the two door but only for that one year. If I can one of them on the market, I might get one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: That's all I've owned since 1991, never had a problem unless you count the drunk driver that totaled one and a huge deer totaled another. I think it was 2019 or 2020 Toyota came out with the two door but only for that one year. If I can one of them on the market, I might get one. Yes, I don't know that last year they made the 2-door model, I will say this....they do hold their value. Again, to the OP, I have nothing against other brands etc. I am just saying what works for our company and has been working well for us. Also, I know zero about reliability of their 6-cylinder models for the record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, 512high said: Yes, I don't know that last year they made the 2-door model, I will say this....they do hold their value. Again, to the OP, I have nothing against other brands etc. I am just saying what works for our company and has been working well for us. Also, I know zero about reliability of their 6-cylinder models for the record. I had a couple 6's and they were just as good as the 4's in my opinion, I think I had 3 of the 4s and 2 of the 6s. The gas mileage on the 6 was the same as the 4's or maybe 1 mpg less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Awesome!! lol little peanut! Love animals, better then most people.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: lol. He said, to hell with one step at a time, I'm coming all the way in with one leap. Dogs, rule! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Good morning and thank you. Pancake has given me a whole new outlook on today. Stay well, as always ….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cold Miser said: lol. He said, to hell with one step at a time, I'm coming all the way in with one leap. Dogs, rule! One of the dogs I got as a puppy was afraid to go down stairs, even when she was older and 70lbs she was hesitant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: One of the dogs I got as a puppy was afraid to go down stairs, even when she was older and 70lbs she was hesitant. Puppies doing puppy things! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 8:56 AM, 512high said: Yes, I don't know that last year they made the 2-door model, I will say this....they do hold their value. Again, to the OP, I have nothing against other brands etc. I am just saying what works for our company and has been working well for us. Also, I know zero about reliability of their 6-cylinder models for the record. I know Tacoma's are reliable but they are outdated and the 4cyl is way underpowered. The current 3rd generation Tacoma is the same design from 2015. The ranger has way more technology and gets way better gas mileage. Seems a lot of these mid size trucks are going to turbo 4 cylinders. The new 2023 Chevy Colorado has a 2.7 turbo. A lot of people are reporting getting close to 30 mpg if your easy on the gas. The ranger has a 7k towing capacity as well and the torque on these turbo motors is supposedly amazing. I live turbo charged cars and my last 2 regular cars have been turbos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrianW said: I know Tacoma's are reliable but they are outdated and the 4cyl is way underpowered. The current 3rd generation Tacoma is the same design from 2015. The ranger has way more technology and gets way better gas mileage. Seems a lot of these mid size trucks are going to turbo 4 cylinders. The new 2023 Chevy Colorado has a 2.7 turbo. A lot of people are reporting getting close to 30 mpg if your easy on the gas. The ranger has a 7k towing capacity as well and the torque on these turbo motors is amazing. I live turbo charged cars and my last 2 regular cars have been turbos. No problem, again we use these for service trucks, not our own personal vehicles etc. Was not not any manufacturer , we use what works for our company,etc. Happy shopping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, BrianW said: I know Tacoma's are reliable but they are outdated and the 4cyl is way underpowered. The current 3rd generation Tacoma is the same design from 2015. The ranger has way more technology and gets way better gas mileage. Seems a lot of these mid size trucks are going to turbo 4 cylinders. The new 2023 Chevy Colorado has a 2.7 turbo. A lot of people are reporting getting close to 30 mpg if your easy on the gas. The ranger has a 7k towing capacity as well and the torque on these turbo motors is supposedly amazing. I live turbo charged cars and my last 2 regular cars have been turbos. I almost pulled the trigger on the Ford last year but decided to wait another year or two, I'll be keeping an eye out for a used Tacoma in the meantime, maybe I'll get lucky. I liked the Ford for the same reasons you just stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, BrianW said: I know Tacoma's are reliable but they are outdated and the 4cyl is way underpowered. The current 3rd generation Tacoma is the same design from 2015. The ranger has way more technology and gets way better gas mileage. Seems a lot of these mid size trucks are going to turbo 4 cylinders. The new 2023 Chevy Colorado has a 2.7 turbo. A lot of people are reporting getting close to 30 mpg if your easy on the gas. The ranger has a 7k towing capacity as well and the torque on these turbo motors is supposedly amazing. I live turbo charged cars and my last 2 regular cars have been turbos. If/when my 2011 Ranger dies, I'd like to find a reasonably priced used Ford Maverick, the only true small truck out there. Hybrid version muchly preferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, tamarack said: If/when my 2011 Ranger dies, I'd like to find a reasonably priced used Ford Maverick, the only true small truck out there. Hybrid version muchly preferred. The problem with the hybrid version, at least right now, is that they don’t come in AWD, they only make FWD versions. Other than that, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 minute ago, mreaves said: The problem with the hybrid version, at least right now, is that they don’t come in AWD, they only make FWD versions. Other than that, I agree. My little pickups (1992 Ranger inherited from dad, 2004 Mazda, 2011 Ranger) have all been 2WD and this was the 29th winter I've been driving them, so I'm not too concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Tough game ..FAU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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