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7 hours ago, Chinook said:

What will the NWS web page, and really, the entire weather enterprise, look like without ADVISORIES, which I believe will not exist as of 2024? It would be so strange not to see any winter weather advisory on the map.

As far as I'm concerned, they can lose Wind Advisories without anyone noticing. The last two here have been a day most accurately described as "breezy" in traditional lingo. Those in the business of moving large plate glass into place might disagree, but what percent of the population do they represent? That tiny tiny minority can always seek private wx data. 

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16 minutes ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Enjoy your snowfall today, it sure looks like a nice little event. We can revisit this when it’s closer then fantasy range. 

When a storm is on your doorstep, what better thing to do than ignore the storm completely and post an op model run 372 hours out that will change in a few hours. 

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2 hours ago, Chambana said:

Per Judah cohens twitter 

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I wonder if they are using always coop data which always runs low/missing data for some areas which brings the curve down. It's definitely inaccurate in southeast MI

Detroit
2019-20: 43.7" (-1.3)
2020-21: 44.9" (-0.1)
2021-22: 47.1" (+2.1")
2022-23: 19.3 (-12.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -11.8

Flint
2019-20: 53.7" (+1.6)
2020-21: 48.6" (-3.5)
2021-22: 60.5" (+8.4)
2022-23: 28.9" (-8.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -2.0
 

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12 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I wonder if they are using always coop data which always runs low/missing data for some areas which brings the curve down. It's definitely inaccurate in southeast MI

Detroit
2019-20: 43.7" (-1.3)
2020-21: 44.9" (-0.1)
2021-22: 47.1" (+2.1")
2022-23: 19.3 (-12.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -11.8

Flint
2019-20: 53.7" (+1.6)
2020-21: 48.6" (-3.5)
2021-22: 60.5" (+8.4)
2022-23: 28.9" (-8.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -2.0
 

 

FYI...this is not meant for snow

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14 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I wonder if they are using always coop data which always runs low/missing data for some areas which brings the curve down. It's definitely inaccurate in southeast MI

Detroit
2019-20: 43.7" (-1.3)
2020-21: 44.9" (-0.1)
2021-22: 47.1" (+2.1")
2022-23: 19.3 (-12.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -11.8

Flint
2019-20: 53.7" (+1.6)
2020-21: 48.6" (-3.5)
2021-22: 60.5" (+8.4)
2022-23: 28.9" (-8.5") thru 2/15
Cumulative -2.0
 

Probably just smoothing, looks underdone in Cleveland.

Cleveland

2019-20: 33.8" (-30")

2020-21: 51.9" (-11.9")

2021-22: 53" (-10.8")

2022-23: 17.5" (-26.5")

Cumulative departure: -79.2"

Toledo

2019-20: 25.6" (-11.8")

2020-21: 40.2" (+2.8")

2021-22: 30.8" (-6.6")

2022-23: 9.5" (-17.2")

Cumulative departure: -32.8"

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2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Probably just smoothing, looks underdone in Cleveland.

Cleveland

2019-20: 33.8" (-30")

2020-21: 51.9" (-11.9")

2021-22: 53" (-10.8")

2022-23: 17.5" (-26.5")

Cumulative departure: -79.2"

Toledo

2019-20: 25.6" (-11.8")

2020-21: 40.2" (+2.8")

2021-22: 30.8" (-6.6")

2022-23: 9.5" (-17.2")

Cumulative departure: -32.8"

Erie, PA is down 158.1" over the last 4 years, or an average of about 40" per winter.

2019-20: 67.6" (-36.7")

2020-21: 64.3" (-40.0")

2021-22: 61.4" (-42.9")

2022-23: 41.0" (-38.5")

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