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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2022-2023 OBS Thread


Ralph Wiggum
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7 minutes ago, RedSky said:

I got buzzed by a skeeter today, true story

 

And I ALSO got buzzed by a skeeter today and managed to shoo it right out the front door (my spiked swatter wasn't close by :lol:)!

Had a 41 low and 56 high today and it started out cloudy, got sunny, and then self-destructed into some drizzle the rest of the afternoon, and into the evening.  Nothing measurable yet though.

Currently 51 and misty with dp 49.

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I've heard spring birds chirping at sunrise past few days. I'm not a bird watcher so I have no idea what type, but I recognize the chirps as those call and response late March/early April mating bird cackles. Also, the buds on my Magnolia are swelling and it wont take many more upper 50s to have them popping. 

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8 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

I've heard spring birds chirping at sunrise past few days. I'm not a bird watcher so I have no idea what type, but I recognize the chirps as those call and response late March/early April mating bird cackles. Also, the buds on my Magnolia are swelling and it wont take many more upper 50s to have them popping. 

Groundhog day still four weeks away, heck my punt or go for it on 4th down call is on the 15th 

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4 minutes ago, RedSky said:

Groundhog day still four weeks away, heck my punt or go for it on 4th down call is on the 15th 

If we get to MLK day and nothing to track and ens are bleak thru entire run, it will be 3rd and long for me. 4th down is Presidents Day. 

30th anniversary of the March superstorm this year. 

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9 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

If we get to MLK day and nothing to track and ens are bleak thru entire run, it will be 3rd and long for me. 4th down is Presidents Day. 

30th anniversary of the March superstorm this year. 

Freddie Mitchell 4th and 26? Success. blizzard!!

Big mess from the Pitt radar heading E...

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A very mild but somewhat wet week on tap across Chester County PA. Temps will run well above normal with temperatures not falling back below freezing until Friday night into Saturday AM. We should get back to near normal January temps by the weekend. Rain should move in this morning and end later this PM. Another round of rain arrives by tomorrow PM and should end by Friday AM.
The record high for today is 63 degrees from 1997. Our record low is 1 below zero set in 1918. Daily rain record is 2.07" from 1936. Snow record for the day is the 2.7" from 1989.
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My 11 year old girl just told me we need a new calendar for 2023. I said what kind do you think we should get? She said snowmen. I said but I'm not sure a calendar would have snowmen in July. She said no, but it would in April, that's when we'll get our biggest snow anyway.

That would just be sad if reality. But she clearly understands the recent backloaded trends. 

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I was hearing a lot of the "we feel like it doesn't snow much anymore" from folks on my FB page - so I updated some of the analysis and charts on snowfalls for the Philly burbs of Chester County PA. The data says the last 3 decades including just the 1st 2 seasons of the 2020's have all averaged above average snowfall. (see graph below showing the average snowfall by decade since the 1890's.May be an image of text that says 'Chester County PA 1888 Present Average Snowfall Decade 60.0 37.9 50.0 Western Chester County: Snowfall Averages by Decade 1890's through 2020's 48.0 31.7 44.9 40.0 T 39.0 1940 30.0 20.0 31.7 24. 37.9 39.3 33.0 25.4 31.5 36.4 10.0 21.7 0.0 1890 1900 1910 1920 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010 2020'

Or what about we don't get any large snowstorms anymore? So how about a breakdown of significant (6"+) large (10"+) Major (15"+) and historic (20"+) snowstorms by decade

May be an image of text that says '19 Snowstorms by Size 1890 to Present- Chester County PA 20 18 16 14 12 10 *き..** 19 11 10 8 6 16 8 11 5 15 2 11 9 11 1890 1900 1910 1920 0- 1930 *.*....と 5 1940 6in+ 1950 10 በ+ 1960 1970 1980 —15in+ 1990 Linear (10 n+ ........ Linear (15 +) 2000 2010 Linear (20 +)'

And finally the thought that we don't get any big snow seasons anymore? Well below are the top 20 Snow Seasons - 3 of the Top 10 and 6 of the Top 20 snowiest winters have all happened since the year 2000

May be an image of text that says '1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Chester County PA Top 20 Seasonal Snowfall Ranks Season Snowfall Season Snowfall 1898-99 95.0 11 1893-1894 59.2 2009-10 86.6 12 2017-18 58.5 1995-96 81.9 13 1957-58 58.0 2013-14 80.0 14 1966-67 57.0 1904-05 79.7 15 2014-15 55.3 1909-10 76.8 16 1913-14 54.1 1906-07 71.8 17 1916-17 53.8 2002-03 62.6 18 1921-22 53.4 1977-78 59.8 19 1910-11 52.6 1986-87 59.3 20 2020-21 52.2 SINCE 2000'

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6 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

I was hearing a lot of the "we feel like it doesn't snow much anymore" from folks on my FB page - so I updated some of the analysis and charts on snowfalls for the Philly burbs of Chester County PA. The data says the last 3 decades including just the 1st 2 seasons of the 2020's have all averaged above average snowfall. (see graph below showing the average snowfall by decade since the 1890's.May be an image of text that says 'Chester County PA 1888 Present Average Snowfall Decade 60.0 37.9 50.0 Western Chester County: Snowfall Averages by Decade 1890's through 2020's 48.0 31.7 44.9 40.0 T 39.0 1940 30.0 20.0 31.7 24. 37.9 39.3 33.0 25.4 31.5 36.4 10.0 21.7 0.0 1890 1900 1910 1920 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010 2020'

Or what about we don't get any large snowstorms anymore? So how about a breakdown of significant (6"+) large (10"+) Major (15"+) and historic (20"+) snowstorms by decade

May be an image of text that says '19 Snowstorms by Size 1890 to Present- Chester County PA 20 18 16 14 12 10 *き..** 19 11 10 8 6 16 8 11 5 15 2 11 9 11 1890 1900 1910 1920 0- 1930 *.*....と 5 1940 6in+ 1950 10 በ+ 1960 1970 1980 —15in+ 1990 Linear (10 n+ ........ Linear (15 +) 2000 2010 Linear (20 +)'

And finally the thought that we don't get any big snow seasons anymore? Well below are the top 20 Snow Seasons - 3 of the Top 10 and 6 of the Top 20 snowiest winters have all happened since the year 2000

May be an image of text that says '1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Chester County PA Top 20 Seasonal Snowfall Ranks Season Snowfall Season Snowfall 1898-99 95.0 11 1893-1894 59.2 2009-10 86.6 12 2017-18 58.5 1995-96 81.9 13 1957-58 58.0 2013-14 80.0 14 1966-67 57.0 1904-05 79.7 15 2014-15 55.3 1909-10 76.8 16 1913-14 54.1 1906-07 71.8 17 1916-17 53.8 2002-03 62.6 18 1921-22 53.4 1977-78 59.8 19 1910-11 52.6 1986-87 59.3 20 2020-21 52.2 SINCE 2000'

I mean our climo naturally doesn’t give us sustained winters other than rare exceptions but if you look at the last 5 years I can understand the sentiment… 17-18 was a well above normal snowfall year but 3/4 of it fell in those 2 big events in March. Most of prime winter was spent in agony waiting for a pattern change. Plus I feel like most of the general public does not remember March snows because they are gone in 2 days. 18-19 was around normal snow but most of it fell in one-two events with one in March I believe. 19-20 was an all time snowless winter. 20-21 was largely a 2-3 week winter capped by the monster storm in February. Last winters snowfalls were almost exclusively rain to snow or snow to rain events that we nickel and dimed but none had much staying power. So in the last 5 years we’ve really had 1 winter with multiple weeks of snowpack(20-21). I can understand the sentiment of “it doesn’t really snow anymore” because when it does snow of late it rarely sticks around longer than a few days because either the pattern changes, it changes over mid event, or it’s March. There hasn’t been a real sustained winter since 14-15. And when you compare the 5-6 year period from 09-15, the good winters from that had much more staying power and multiple snow events in actual winter.

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23 minutes ago, RedSky said:

25 yard visibility on the roads maybe the worst I have seen.

 

You must be just north of the warm front.  It's surprisingly "clear" of fog here.  Mt. Holly did put an Advisory up for the counties N and NW of Philly metro and over into central & north Jersey.

Temp hit 55 after a low of 47 and am currently 54 with dp 54 (so fog might come if the warm front wobbles back down this way).  I did pick up 0.19" of rain today after the drizzle and mist of yesterday and this morning.

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1 hour ago, RedSky said:

80% the fog I was going to pull over there were areas of true zero visibility it was nuts and the old eyes not helping.

Was out early this morning and it wasn't "that" foggy but I couldn't keep my car windows from that condensation crap building every sec. Defroster blasting, rear defroster and me getting out w/my bounty towels wiping it off. It's the stuff that builds on your house windows early in the morning sometimes but thick and wouldn't stop....I couldn't see shit at times.

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It looks like rain will be moving in today from the southwest by this afternoon. Highs should peak in the low 60's today...while very warm not close to our record high of 67 set back in 1950. However, that is 22 degrees above normal. Tomorrow we "cool" to only 14 degrees above normal to the mid-50's. We should be closer to normal with highs around 40 by the weekend.
The record high is that 67 set in 1950. Our record low is the 3 below zero set in 1918. The daily rain record is the 1.55" from 1944. Daily snow record is the 4.5" that fell today back in 1905.
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Ridge in the west showing up a few days ago looks to have been a mirage. All major ensembles showing the trough out there through 384. January looking more and more like a punt month. Hopefully we score a measurable light snowfall with those shortwaves next week because after that looks like it’s time to close the blinds again.

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13 hours ago, The Iceman said:

I mean our climo naturally doesn’t give us sustained winters other than rare exceptions but if you look at the last 5 years I can understand the sentiment… 17-18 was a well above normal snowfall year but 3/4 of it fell in those 2 big events in March. Most of prime winter was spent in agony waiting for a pattern change. Plus I feel like most of the general public does not remember March snows because they are gone in 2 days. 18-19 was around normal snow but most of it fell in one-two events with one in March I believe. 19-20 was an all time snowless winter. 20-21 was largely a 2-3 week winter capped by the monster storm in February. Last winters snowfalls were almost exclusively rain to snow or snow to rain events that we nickel and dimed but none had much staying power. So in the last 5 years we’ve really had 1 winter with multiple weeks of snowpack(20-21). I can understand the sentiment of “it doesn’t really snow anymore” because when it does snow of late it rarely sticks around longer than a few days because either the pattern changes, it changes over mid event, or it’s March. There hasn’t been a real sustained winter since 14-15. And when you compare the 5-6 year period from 09-15, the good winters from that had much more staying power and multiple snow events in actual winter.

Agreed!! we have never had a climo with long sustained periods of snow and cold...does it rarely happen? sure. This is why looking at decades is key... it evens out the variability seen in individual winters seasons or even multi-year patterns. The overall story is there is nothing changing about our snow climate just typical climate cycles which have been and will continue to see peaks and valleys forever.

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