mahantango#1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, pasnownut said: You just gave him feedback. Your in trouble now buddy... Your right, I'm always in trouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 It was 36 here at 8:20. It is now 32 with a gust of 38 recently. LOTS of water still on the roads....creek at the Rouzerville park is over its banks but not on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Friend in western Pa text and said button everything down that the wind means business. I’m with @canderson and hate wind! it’s still raining here. And like others there is standing water everywhere. I feel it could get ugly later as the temps drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 All the latest hi-res models still insistent on bringing us nearly an inch with this frontal passage. Seems unlikely but we shall see. Conditions changing rapidly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, sauss06 said: Friend in western Pa text and said button everything down that the wind means business. I’m with @canderson and hate wind! it’s still raining here. And like others there is standing water everywhere. I feel it could get ugly later as the temps drop. At the very least, the saturated ground is going to freeze like it has not in quite some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Anybody flip to snow yet on the backside of the front? Currently 42, down from a high of 56 at 2:30am. Pouring rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anduril Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Has the front actually gone through the Harrisburg area yet? Having a hard time actually discerning it on the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anduril said: Has the front actually gone through the Harrisburg area yet? Having a hard time actually discerning it on the radar SPC and Surface Ob's suggest the front is in Eastern PA/ NJ right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: All the latest hi-res models still insistent on bringing us nearly an inch with this frontal passage. Seems unlikely but we shall see. Conditions changing rapidly. 12z HRRR & NAMs still say .5 to 1 inch of snow is on the way this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Latest SPC (WPC actually I guess) Map which is actually a couple hours behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Anduril said: Has the front actually gone through the Harrisburg area yet? Having a hard time actually discerning it on the radar Looking at WU sites, low 20's just west of Chambersburg. Upper 30's in Carlisle. So still a ways from Harrisburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 There appears to be a little bit of back building on the radar near the WV panhandle. Some models have been popping a secondary low near Delaware on runs the last few days, so we may see some precip enhancement near the LSV this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, Festus said: Looking at WU sites, low 20's just west of Chambersburg. Upper 30's in Carlisle. So still a ways from Harrisburg. It won’t take long… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Here are the 9 am Obs from CTP. 3 in Pittsburgh & 40s in the LSV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: It won’t take long… The front itself is well past Harrisburg per SPC and wind direction ob's but the temps always lag a bit behind it. I bet you are below freezing by 10 or 10:30. Winds took on a more westerly component at LNS around 8:20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 This is an incredible surface map. But look at the sagging of the isobars through the LSV, that's where the front is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Westerly winds starting to howl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Newman said: This is an incredible surface map. But look at the sagging of the isobars through the LSV, that's where the front is Multiple Reports in the Mid Atlantic thread saying flipping to snow now in areas just to the west of Baltimore & DC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Newman said: This is an incredible surface map. But look at the sagging of the isobars through the LSV, that's where the front is Any signs of secondary low development near Delaware this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, Blizzard of 93 said: Multiple Reports in the Mid Atlantic thread saying flipping to snow now in areas just to the west of Baltimore & DC. My friend in Leesburg VA is getting some snow now too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 The second/reinforcing front looks to come through around 7PM (MDT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Newman said: This is an incredible surface map. But look at the sagging of the isobars through the LSV, that's where the front is SPC/WPC is insisting the front is entering NJ right now FWIW. Wind direction here changed about 2 hours ago. Not that it really matters but the delay in temp drop is interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 40.2 and windy. Highest temp here was 53.5 at 2:17am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 And just like that, huge wind gusts and it starts snowing. 9:24am....Crazy weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, Itstrainingtime said: 40.2 and windy. Highest temp here was 53.5 at 2:17am. So, you are looking at a +50 drop today if the HRRR is right having you at 0 at midnight. Impressive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: SPC and Surface Ob's suggest the front is in Eastern PA/ NJ right now. Still 40 in Tamaqua, so it hasn't gotten there yet as of 9:35am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: SPC/WPC is insisting the front is entering NJ right now FWIW. Wind direction here changed about 2 hours ago. Not that it really matters but the delay in temp drop is interesting. That's super interesting. I think those figures (from SPC and WPC) are just rough estimates though because we wouldn't be seeing the band of rainfall moving through if the front was already into New Jersey. Physically speaking from a basic meteorological standpoint, the precipitation is always associated along and AHEAD of the cold front where you get rising motion above the cooler air mass. So it's definitely not your fault, but the WPC map is deceiving because the front is definitely not into Jersey yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Newman said: That's super interesting. I think those figures (from SPC and WPC) are just rough estimates though because we wouldn't be seeing the band of rainfall moving through if the front was already into New Jersey. Physically speaking from a basic meteorological standpoint, the precipitation is always associated along and AHEAD of the cold front where you get rising motion above the cooler air mass. So it's definitely not your fault, but the WPC map is deceiving because the front is definitely not into Jersey yet I echo this sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 First gust to 30. Going to be a long 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Newman said: That's super interesting. I think those figures (from SPC and WPC) are just rough estimates though because we wouldn't be seeing the band of rainfall moving through if the front was already into New Jersey. Physically speaking from a basic meteorological standpoint, the precipitation is always associated along and AHEAD of the cold front where you get rising motion above the cooler air mass. So it's definitely not your fault, but the WPC map is deceiving because the front is definitely not into Jersey yet I was reading the surface ob's at MDT as well. The DP started dropping slightly before 8 so that would indicate the front had passed to me. But this is interesting as there is always a delay in temp drop from what I have seen. HRRR has back building of precip well after the front, so I was not just counting on the precip. HRRR has precip in MDT still at noon which is way past the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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