Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Yeah I've long thought they should use a weighted average for the daily temp. Do something like take all the on-the-hour temps and multiply each one by 1/24th then add them all together. Still not perfect but a much better picture of the day that's being evaluated. Obviously the more time periods you split it up into, the more accurate it will be (e.g. sum all 15-minute temps readings times 1/96th). Briefly touching an extreme value can have an undue influence on the daily average, especially when it occurs around midnight and affects multiple days. This works in both directions and I suppose in the grand scheme of things all comes out in the wash, but I'm a stickler for numerical accuracy. I digress. That would be a good idea to fix the average. Both figures could still be recorded (the weighted average you propose and actual highs and lows) with the current data, but if it is 55 at LNS or MDT at midnight, it looks like a short heatwave in what was really a wintery two-day period. This is one of those issues that is really not an issue in the big scheme of the world, but we spend some much time talking anomalies here, this is a bit of an issue in really relying on the actual weather of the past. With all this said, Friday could end up being one of the top differences between high and low for a day when all said and done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Itstrainingtime said: Yeah...so about numerical accuracy - I received this at a company banquet a few years ago. Apparently my work peers think I'm sort of deranged numbers person: Why the turkey? LOL. Do Turkeys remember numbers well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Why the turkey? LOL. Do Turkeys remember numbers well? I'm not sure other than there were multiple awards distributed for people with quirks. I guess we're all "turkeys" because of that. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Atomixwx said: Just got Wind Chill Warned lol Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I'm not sure other than there were multiple awards distributed for people with quirks. I guess we're all "turkeys" because of that. LOL That sounds so "Michael from the Office". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Wind chills advisories for the LSV PAZ057-059-065-066-230615- /O.NEW.KCTP.WC.Y.0003.221223T1800Z-221224T1600Z/ Dauphin-Lebanon-York-Lancaster- Including the cities of Harrisburg, Hershey, Lebanon, York, and Lancaster 103 PM EST Thu Dec 22 2022 ...WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM FRIDAY TO 11 AM EST SATURDAY... * WHAT...Very cold wind chills expected. Wind chills as low as 15 below zero. Frequent wind gusts between 35 and 45 mph late Friday morning through Saturday. * WHERE...Dauphin, Lebanon, York and Lancaster Counties. * WHEN...From 1 PM Friday to 11 AM EST Saturday. * IMPACTS...The cold wind chills could result in hypothermia if precautions are not taken. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Still hanging onto light snow here, even as surface temps have creeped up to about 33ºF for now. Waves of snow have been sporadic the last couple hours so haven’t added much (just measured 3.6”). Eyeing a heavier band coming up from Bedford and a look at the 511 cams there (and at Breezewood) is showing it snowing all the way down to there yet and actually starting to cave the roads a bit again there. So will see what happens, the HRRR hangs on to snow and/or mixed through about 4-5pm here now.. and the more QPF that ends up frozen the better. Was glad to see that some of the LSV overachieved this morning and some of the colder solutions had some merit for a change. I thought Harrisburg could get 1-2” when I posted very early this morning, so nice to see some overachieving. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: That would be a good idea to fix the average. Both figures could still be recorded (the weighted average you propose and actual highs and lows) with the current data, but if it is 55 at LNS or MDT at midnight, it looks like a short heatwave in what was really a wintery two-day period. This is one of those issues that is really not an issue in the big scheme of the world, but we spend some much time talking anomalies here, this is a bit of an issue in really relying on the actual weather of the past. With all this said, Friday could end up being one of the top differences between high and low for a day when all said and done. Yeah the diurnal range for Friday is going to be something to behold. I saw Cheyenne recorded its largest temperature drop ever, going from 43 to 3 in just 30 minutes. Here is what I do know in regards to the daily average temp: simply taking the daily high and low and finding the midpoint between the two, as is the method currently used, is NOT a fully accurate representation of the temperature profile for a given day. I've said too much on this topic ha. Back to the snow and cold speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Yeah the diurnal range for Friday is going to be something to behold. I saw Cheyenne recorded its largest temperature drop ever, going from 43 to 3 in just 30 minutes. Here is what I do know in regards to the daily average temp: simply taking the daily high and low and finding the midpoint between the two, as is the method currently used, is NOT a fully accurate representation of the temperature profile for a given day. I've said too much on this topic ha. Back to the snow and cold speak.It’s the same for precip too. Need to take a broader and larger range to get a true average.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Congrats, CAD ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Where's our Pillow resident? I wanna know how much he got out on my old water route from Tower City to Sunbury. Here's what it looks like where I'm at right now, delivering at a Petsmart in Mesa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The changeover is trying, under these yellows and oranges in the radar currently and had fast falling rimed fatties and probably some pingers in there too… now going back to heavier snow again. Temp back down below freezing (31.6ºF). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Pingers mixing in here. We've probably picked up about a half an inch so far today. Never in the game here, just waiting for the extreme cold. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Precip has switched to light rain here, temp still just shy of 32ºF. Gonna call 3.7” as the snow total. C’mon dry slot haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Down to just snow patches here as a "heavy drizzle" and 37 degrees takes its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplunk Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Now pingers here after just shy of 5”. Really beautiful. Should be totally ruined by morning. 32.7º Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Down to just snow patches here as a "heavy drizzle" and 37 degrees takes its toll. Ended up with 3.2”. Still around 2” left. Temp at 32.7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, Voyager said: Where's our Pillow resident? I wanna know how much he got out on my old water route from Tower City to Sunbury. Here's what it looks like where I'm at right now, delivering at a Petsmart in Mesa. 3in final Talley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said: 3in final Talley Nice! Glad I wasn't there to enjoy it. That water run would have been a bite today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Mod rain for a while. Main roads fine, secondary slushy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 It's been raining lightly here for the past several hours. Temp has very slowly risen to current 33.4 degrees. Looks like I've picked up about 0.10" of rain since the changeover. Had total of 3.4" of snow with 0.36" of liquid for nearly perfect 10:1. Snow is definitely showing signs of compacting, but only 1.5 degrees above freezing slows down the melting a lot. We'll see about later. There's still 3" on the ground of increasingly wet snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Wind has picked up quite a bit here and the rain is now moderate to heavy and driving into the house from the East. It is REALLY crappy out now. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Rain 36 right now winds picking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Drizzle and 37. .33" of precip so far - a long way from the 2"+ forecast. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Wind has picked up quite a bit here and the rain is now moderate to heavy and driving into the house from the East. It is REALLY crappy out now. LOL Send that rain my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Send that rain my way. We have received a good 3/4" of rain since 3PM. Rain + right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Saw 41 in lititz on way home. Not a mere flake left in Akron.....cept the one typing this. congrats to all the overachievers. Happy to see a bit of a "bust" for many of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 41 degrees, 0.35" in the bucket and all signs of earlier coating gone. Not really looking forward to the next 2 days. Congrats to those hanging in there with anything frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Downright Nasty Cold is next for the weekend. Santa likely will have a tough ride on the sled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, paweather said: Downright Nasty Cold is next for the weekend. Santa likely will have a tough ride on the sled. Then there's this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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