TheDreamTraveler Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I agree with almost everything that you shared here - the only thing I'll elaborate on is the part about "doom and gloom" posting. To me, the weather is the weather whether or not it's 75 or 5 in January. Comments regarding excessive warmth right now is not doom and gloom, I've seen none of that in our thread this week. I see a lot of people posting about what the weather is - abnormally warm. It's the current reality. And I'll post about it just like I post every day in July when it's 97. I enjoy posting about ALL kinds of weather. When people aren't posting about heavy snow and bitter cold that's not necessarily a negative indictment. Now - if someone says an hour before an obvious impending snowstorm "let me see how this can fail" - I will be the first one to call them out for being doom and gloom. True. There's some people who see warmth as a positive thing. As much as I love big winter storms I do love it when we get really warm days like the past few we've had. I'm a big fan of both lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Sure seems like it, doesn't it?No one appreciates how much the average minimums have played a role in this. It's actually nuts. Compare average high temperatures to average low temperatures over last 30 years. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Noon - full, bright sun and 58. Yet another day of blowing past the forecast high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: No one appreciates how much the average minimums have played a role in this. It's actually nuts. Compare average high temperatures to average low temperatures over last 30 years. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Yep. I've been hammering this point for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Yep. I've been hammering this point for years. It really plays into public perception because people automatically associate record warmth with high temperatures. What doesn't get alot of play is looking at our rainfall the last 20-25 years. People associated record warmth with dryness. I see record warmth, especially mins being that much more moisture the atmosphere can hold. I need to see how far back I can find hourly dew points and track that average. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Nooner - Beautiful spring day outside. 57 and sunny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 56 here. Wundermap shows most near 60 now (LSV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheDreamTraveler said: True. There's some people who see warmth as a positive thing. As much as I love big winter storms I do love it when we get really warm days like the past few we've had. I'm a big fan of both lol Who are the warminista's, lol? Mahantango and Voyager are the only two I can recall. A lot just talk about weather and whether it is warm or cold, they post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, TheDreamTraveler said: True. There's some people who see warmth as a positive thing. As much as I love big winter storms I do love it when we get really warm days like the past few we've had. I'm a big fan of both lol I had a feeling that you were a fan or warm weather - I lurk in the tropical threads and see you posting more there than you do here. You're exactly right though - some are only active here in the winter, and are much more "fans of snow" while others are here year round, and are truly fans of all kinds of weather. Personally, I get just as stoked watching 4" of rain fall in an hour as I do 12" of snow fall in the winter...I'm a weather fan first and foremost. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: No one appreciates how much the average minimums have played a role in this. It's actually nuts. Compare average high temperatures to average low temperatures over last 30 years. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 36 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Yep. I've been hammering this point for years. I don't have the numerical data, but I know for certain that this is 100% accurate. Far many more nights in the 20s and 30s instead of the teens these days compared to years ago, and look at how many summer nights now stay in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 60.3 here at 12:50pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, paweather said: GFS Low pressure takes a perfect (well, good enough) track for snow next weekend = 100% rain from it, in the middle of January. Sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Low pressure takes a perfect (well, good enough) track for snow next weekend = 100% rain from it, in the middle of January. Sigh. Ensembles look better than the OP run, which is good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I am a fan of all weather, particularly of the extreme variety. I'm an equal opportunity employer. Doesn't matter the type. Just give me some oddball weather to gawk over. Then give me some more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I don't have the numerical data, but I know for certain that this is 100% accurate. Far many more nights in the 20s and 30s instead of the teens these days compared to years ago, and look at how many summer nights now stay in the 70s. Well, here are the annual departures for MDT for average max and min over the last five years: 2022: .7 and .6 AN 2021: 1.9 and 2.9 AN 2020: 3.6 and 3.1 AN 2019: 2.1 and 2.3 AN 2018: .7 and 1.9 AN So, avg. max was 1.8 AN and avg. min was 2.2 AN. Not as large of a gap as I thought there'd be but could go back more years to verify. I do know this disparity is more pronounced in the summer, with nighttime lows being much more AN than daytime highs due to increased moisture and cloud cover, as mentioned by others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Well, here are the annual departures for MDT for average max and min over the last five years: 2022: .7 and .6 AN 2021: 1.9 and 2.9 AN 2020: 3.6 and 3.1 AN 2019: 2.1 and 2.3 AN 2018: .7 and 1.9 AN So, avg. max was 1.8 AN and avg. min was 2.2 AN. Not as large of a gap as I thought there'd be but could go back more years to verify. I do know this disparity is more pronounced in the summer, with nighttime lows being much more AN than daytime highs due to increased moisture and cloud cover, as mentioned by others. Thank you sir! Good stuff as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Thank you sir! Good stuff as always. Now, on to this McCarthy thing. How are we going to fix that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Euro teasing the MA at range...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Euro teasing the MA at range...... You Lanco folks get in on some at 240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: You Lanco folks get in on some at 240. Last time I was offered to get in on some white stuff wasn't snow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 12z Euro is a Short Pump special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: 12z Euro is a Short Pump special. A preview of uncovered AC units at short pump next week. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Now, on to this McCarthy thing. How are we going to fix that! Mike or Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, paweather said: Mike or Kevin. Uh oh, I mean Kevin but to some other men, you may be in trouble. They are on to vote 7 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Uh oh, I mean Kevin but to some other men, you may be in trouble. They are on to vote 7 now. Just kidding of course. They are onto 9 now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Fringed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: A preview of uncovered AC units at short pump next week. :-) When the HVAC guys came to the homestead when I first inquired about central AC, the guy showed me a unit that looked similar to that. After a brief discussion it became apparent to both of us that it was gonna take a bigger unit than that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Fringed MA / SE special but I'll take my 3-4" inches. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Fringed That's right where we... I'm still interested in this time period. Not to be overly dramatic, but going beyond this time frame, if we don't score in the next 10-14 days, it might start looking a little dire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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