rclab Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Will - Rutgers said: my niece just handed me an etch a sketch and she's either trying to draw an elephant or there's +10 850s over the metro through february Good evening and Happy New Year, Will. Your definitely worth the wait. As always ….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Warming up. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 No more winter forecasting in October and November. That rarely works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Long range modeling looks bad. Not sure what the optimistic ones are seeing. -PNA, +Nao and +Ao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ag3 said: Long range modeling looks bad. Not sure what the optimistic ones are seeing. -PNA, +Nao and +Ao 19-20 repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, ag3 said: Long range modeling looks bad. Not sure what the optimistic ones are seeing. -PNA, +Nao and +Ao Another one throwing in the towel ? We will be in business if this is right. We will get colder by mid-month if the MJO controls the pattern. Stop worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Another one throwing in the towel ? We will be in business if this is right. We will get colder by mid-month if the MJO controls the pattern. Stop worrying You will continue to say this until you realize we were correct. Then you will start blaming some Twitter met or a winter outlook. 1/15 is going to come without a inch in Brooklyn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, ag3 said: Long range modeling looks bad. Not sure what the optimistic ones are seeing. -PNA, +Nao and +Ao Wrong Check the indices on the 0z Euro and gfs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Allsnow said: You will continue to say this until you realize we were correct. Then you will start blaming some Twitter met or a winter outlook. 1/15 is going to come without a inch in Brooklyn It's a bad pattern but actually pay attention to the forecasted pattern ahead. What looks bad? I was talking to PB this morning and he is very confident going forward. He is usually cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Allsnow hates winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Allsnow hates winter I don’t hate winter! I love cold and snow during the season. I have just become better at recognizing what we need to get that in our area. I don’t see that pattern coming anytime soon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WX-PA Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Another one throwing in the towel ? We will be in business if this is right. We will get colder by mid-month if the MJO controls the pattern. Stop worrying If MJO 8 fails by mid late month I think even you will be throwing in the towel.I'll start thinking about baseball and Spring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, MJO812 said: It's a bad pattern but actually pay attention to the forecasted pattern ahead. What looks bad? I was talking to PB this morning and he is very confident going forward. He is usually cautious. PB is usually cautious? Lol 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, MJO812 said: It's a bad pattern but actually pay attention to the forecasted pattern ahead. What looks bad? I was talking to PB this morning and he is very confident going forward. He is usually cautious. The Jan 20 - Feb 20 period will be the best month of the winter imo. Doesn't mean it'll produce but the chances will be the greatest and it helps that it coincides with peak snow climo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, MJO812 said: It's a bad pattern but actually pay attention to the forecasted pattern ahead. What looks bad? I was talking to PB this morning and he is very confident going forward. He is usually cautious. Since when ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It what strikes me is all the people just hoping for snow. How about we actually get snowmaking temperatures first? This ski season is off to a very dismal start. I do think we are in the decade we will start seeing some smaller areas close permanently due to the expense of relying fully in man made snow. This isn’t like the past anymore. It seems more and more that we need to thread the needle just to get decent snow making temperatures let alone snow. Then when even normal climatic conditions return we torch. It is frustrating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: It what strikes me is all the people just hoping for snow. How about we actually get snowmaking temperatures first? This ski season is off to a very dismal start. I do think we are in the decade we will start seeing some smaller areas close permanently due to the expense of relying fully in man made snow. This isn’t like the past anymore. It seems more and more that we need to thread the needle just to get decent snow making temperatures let alone snow. Then when even normal climatic conditions return we torch. It is frustrating. Temps will be in the 30s and 40s next week but too warm for snow at the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Temps will be in the 30s and 40s next week but too warm for snow at the coast And still too warm to make snow during the day even in the mountains. This is incredible for this time of year. Ski areas are doing their best but it is looking bleaker than any time I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 you have to blame someone so blame the elephant in the room " sun angle " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: And still too warm to make snow during the day even in the mountains. This is incredible for this time of year. Ski areas are doing their best but it is looking bleaker than any time I can remember. Exactly. I was at Stratton all last week until yesterday. It went from a several foot base to completely melted out. Only snow making trails remain and they are in bad shape too. That’s a Mountain far enough north and with a base of 2,000’ and a summit of 3,850’. What’s a place like Vernon valley with a base of 600’ and a summit of 1400’ going to do!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 There is nothing good about the foreseeable pattern on any model or ensemble. Not sure what anyone is seeing. Perhaps it improves by the end of January. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 If we were to turn around and get a good February and at least half of March, that could still "save" winter. I mean you can't expect wall to wall cold and snow, we just don't get winters like that these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 What a disaster the forums are right now with people canceling winter on January 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJO812 said: What a disaster the forums are right now with people canceling winter on January 2. Ant although I agree with you that we have a long way to to go,,,,,snow in March does not do it for me because it is usually gone a day later so IMO Mother Nature has 8 weeks to get her sheee- ite together and it looks as if we might possibly be knocking a week or possibly 2 weeks off that time line 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I dont like February snow. Month is too short and I'm ready for spring. Late January too..and early January. I only like mid January snow 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: I dont like February snow. Month is too short and I'm ready for spring. Late January too..and early January. I only like mid January snow I prefer my snow on January 14th. If it snows any other day, I send it back. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 13 hours ago, MJO812 said: What a disaster the forums are right now with people canceling winter on January 2. Don’t worry… the same thing happened in January 15 in the NE thread. Look how that worked out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 17 hours ago, MJO812 said: What a disaster the forums are right now with people canceling winter on January 2. there's good reason to...the PAC remains hostile and outside of the xmas outbreak arctic air has been non existent for the most part unless you're out west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Clinging hard to the snow and cold we had in North Iceland in November. Was a great trip. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I'm going to Breckenridge in early Feb-will see snow there for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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