beavis1729 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The Euro shows the mother of all troughs in the West toward the end of the run - it's really incredible. Not enough hot dogs to show the true magnitude. Near 20F in San Francisco and 0F in Seattle. And an insane temp gradient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: insane temp gradient with that look, nearly 100 across texas alone checks many of the boxes for historic regional big dogs would go down as joe's best call since the ia derecho That low in Arkansas was about to go ballistic. Probably a historic bomb if the end of the run was allowed to play out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Where is that trough in April with 75/68 in the warm sector? Although, given recent history, that may not matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: The Euro shows the mother of all troughs in the West toward the end of the run - it's really incredible. Not enough hot dogs to show the true magnitude. Near 20F in San Francisco and 0F in Seattle. And an insane temp gradient. Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: The Euro shows the mother of all troughs in the West toward the end of the run - it's really incredible. Not enough hot dogs to show the true magnitude. Near 20F in San Francisco and 0F in Seattle. And an insane temp gradient. Damn, a torch before Christmas Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Pretty strong/consistent signal for 9-10 days out... The incredible block amplifying over AK pushes a large chunk of cold air south, with cross-polar from from Siberia to the northern Plains. As ridging pops near the west coast, the trough is pushed southeast and amplifies over the central US. All the pieces are there for a large storm. Where the ridge near the west coast sets up, and how much downstream troughing there is over eastern Canada will determine how amped or suppressed any eventual storm ends up being. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlauderdal Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Very nice 12z GFS run... EDIT: Might also have to plan a trip to Miami. Its been nice here, finally cooled off. Im heading to chicago next weds, my timing looks good. Two tropical systems and an arctic blast to close out the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, beavis1729 said: The Euro shows the mother of all troughs in the West toward the end of the run - it's really incredible. Not enough hot dogs to show the true magnitude. Near 20F in San Francisco and 0F in Seattle. And an insane temp gradient. damn, crazy that the N Pole is now in Great Falls, Mt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, madwx said: damn, crazy that the N Pole is now in Great Falls, Mt The models have been so bad this year and ya'll posting weenie 240+ hour maps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: The models have been so bad this year and ya'll posting weenie 240+ hour maps Well to be fair, it’s not real often you have widespread model agreement at 240hr. Lots of time to go “poof”, but it’s been a long time since we have something to track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciascia Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SchaumburgStormer said: Well to be fair, it’s not real often you have widespread model agreement at 240hr. Lots of time to go “poof”, but it’s been a long time since we have something to track It would also be perfectly timed if it played out like it did on the GFS. Basically starts between midnight & 3am Thursday, ends around 10pm Thursday. Probably would be tricky for those traveling on the 23rd, but not as bad for the 24th/25th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 1:57 PM, beavis1729 said: Wow, a 1070mb high in Alberta. I know it's a Day 10 Euro prog...but that's insane. For reference, the Lower 48 record is 1064mb in Miles City, MT on 12/24/1983. And the 18z GFS ups the ante, getting into the realm of the ridiculous. 1073mb in MT…and “only” at hour 210. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiTownSnow Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I think the models are too fast/aggressive with the Arctic front, both in timing/speed, and strength which is creating havoc with the opperational models in spinning up a storm If everything slows down a bit (which I think it will) then the Christmas week storm will come back again again in some fashion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 hours ago, beavis1729 said: The Euro shows the mother of all troughs in the West toward the end of the run - it's really incredible. Not enough hot dogs to show the true magnitude. Near 20F in San Francisco and 0F in Seattle. And an insane temp gradient. 0z euro backed way off. gotta stop hugging models outside 24 hours. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 10 hours ago, beavis1729 said: And the 18z GFS ups the ante, getting into the realm of the ridiculous. 1073mb in MT…and “only” at hour 210. you lost me at 18z gfs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 currently riding the 12z gem 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: currently riding the 12z gem Some Ohio peeps would be so overjoyed if that was even half true. I can also support this solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, KokomoWX said: Some Ohio peeps would be so overjoyed if that was even half true. I can also support this solution. 3/4 of IL, ALL of IN, and ALL of Ohio would be overjoyed. It would be the Christmas spread the presents storm for most of us. Lock it up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: currently riding the 12z gem me too.... that's a hell of a Merry Christmas courtesy of the folks up north 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 And Arctic hound temps for days on end after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, iluvsnow said: And Arctic hound temps for days on end after! yeah because being miserable the second you step outdoors is awesome. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Our big snow potential has diminished late next week because the trough is no longer digging south into the Rockies, but the brutal cold is still there on all the models. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, hardypalmguy said: yeah because being miserable the second you step outdoors is awesome. What's miserable is coming into these threads and having to endure your comments, sarcastic or not. Also, by responding, I understand that I'm giving you exactly what you're looking for... 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Fr I'd take ice resistance over this troll 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nelson said: What's miserable is coming into these threads and having to endure your comments, sarcastic or not. Also, by responding, I understand that I'm giving you exactly what you're looking for... hey man, we are 15 days into December with no snowcover. Winter timeclock going tick tock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: hey man, we are 15 days into December with no snowcover. Winter timeclock going tick tock. i dunno about that but I was up in the land of palms this week doing outside tours of the Harley Davidson plants...not a palm in sight and froze my ass off looking at dead vegetation and crusty snow piles. Made me think your opinions can't be trusted. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 56 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: hey man, we are 15 days into December with no snowcover. Winter timeclock going tick tock. Your palms will have snow on them in April 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 This guy is a troll from way back. Time for mod action. Adds nothing but acrimony. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, iluvsnow said: Time for mod action. this sub-forum doesn't have one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: this sub-forum doesn't have one. There's gotta be something we can do to get one of you actually useful posters elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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