hawkeye_wx Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 My December snow total is up to 7.4" and my season total is 10.1". Both are close to average. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 So is the upcoming torch the elephant in the room that no one's going to talk about? I can see some concerns for flooding assuming streams/reservoirs/ponds etc got hard frozen over the last few days; then snow melt (in those areas that actually have a substantial amount on the ground) combined with rain upcoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 The high of 16 at Detroit made for the 5th coldest Christmas high temp yesterday. A winter wonderland for a week before the torch hits. Judah Cohen likes a return to cold after the first week of Jan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, hawkeye_wx said: My December snow total is up to 7.4" and my season total is 10.1". Both are close to average. 15.4" on the month and 20.2" on the season. The increase in snow totals just by gaining the degree and a half of latitude between us is always impressive 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Looks like ORD will technically secure a colder than average December as I don't think there is enough time for the warmup to wipe out the negative anomalies. Unfortunately it will also be a month with less snow than average. The last colder than average December at ORD (2017) also had snowfall that was below average. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: Looks like ORD will technically secure a colder than average December as I don't think there is enough time for the warmup to wipe out the negative anomalies. Unfortunately it will also be a month with less snow than average. The last colder than average December at ORD (2017) also had snowfall that was below average. Season to date snowfall imby 8.0" (Nov 2.9, Dec 5.1) and DTW 7.5" (Nov 2.5, Dec 5.0). I'm thinking they finish right around to very slightly warmer than average for Dec. No surprise, it's been an extremely overcast December. Through the 25th average sky cover is 9.2 out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Season to date snowfall imby 8.0" (Nov 2.9, Dec 5.1) and DTW 7.5" (Nov 2.5, Dec 5.0). I'm thinking they finish right around to very slightly warmer than average for Dec. No surprise, it's been an extremely overcast December. Through the 25th average sky cover is 9.2 out of 10. Actually have a 3 degree difference in anomalies between ORD and DTW right now (-2.9 to +0.2). ORD has put up multiple days between 20-30+ degrees colder than average during the recent cold snap, while it has been more muted at DTW probably due to lake influence. I'd agree that DTW will finish December warmer than average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Actually have a 3 degree difference in anomalies between ORD and DTW right now (-2.9 to +0.2). ORD has put up multiple days between 20-30+ degrees colder than average during the recent cold snap, while it has been more muted at DTW probably due to lake influence. I'd agree that DTW will finish December warmer than average. Definitely muted due to a number of reasons. Mainly lake influence and a constant low overcast/snow, but also timing of the front. The high end December 23rd was 34 at midnight. Temperatures hovered between 0 and 1ﾟ for most of the day into the overnight of the 24th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 5 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Season to date snowfall imby 8.0" (Nov 2.9, Dec 5.1) and DTW 7.5" (Nov 2.5, Dec 5.0). I'm thinking they finish right around to very slightly warmer than average for Dec. No surprise, it's been an extremely overcast December. Through the 25th average sky cover is 9.2 out of 10. The constant cloud cover much of this month pretty much killed this December. Shades of December '14. This will be one of those weeks we'll be lucky to have one day of sun (besides Christmas), particularly Wednesday. Suicide weather expected tomorrow. We are to get a long crappy New Year's weekend afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 7:44 AM, IWXwx said: I just noticed that FWA has a 7" deficit in precip for the year. That Friday/Saturday system is going to need to dump a lot of rain to cut into that by year's end. I just saw on a TV weather graphic that Indianapolis was over 9 inches in the red for the year. Do not knoww the validity of that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, bowtie` said: I just saw on a TV weather graphic that Indianapolis was over 9 inches in the red for the year. Do not knoww the validity of that though. As of Midnight last night -9.36" https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=ind&product=CLI&issuedby=ind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Time for 2023 Drought thread yet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Spartman said: The constant cloud cover much of this month pretty much killed this December. Shades of December '14. This will be one of those weeks we'll be lucky to have one day of sun (besides Christmas), particularly Wednesday. Suicide weather expected tomorrow. We are to get a long crappy New Year's weekend afterwards. There's been no sun here in a while. Christmas was overcast with snow falling most of the day. I don't mind the overcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 14 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said: My December snow total is up to 7.4" and my season total is 10.1". Both are close to average. Gonna be tough to get an average January seeing as it looks likely that we will struggle for substantial snow for the first week, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 20 hours ago, madwx said: 15.4" on the month and 20.2" on the season. The increase in snow totals just by gaining the degree and a half of latitude between us is always impressive Disparity even greater between RFD at 5.6" for the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Temps at midnight tomorrow night look to be in the 50s, or over 60 degrees warmer than at midnight last Thu night. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I haven’t been paying real close attention but it seems to me that it wasn’t too long ago that Friday was looking like a decent rain but that seems to have turned into a stronger northern stream system instead with just a dry front. Just like every snowstorm. Some sort of southern stream system tries to come this way over the weekend with rain but I’m sure that will trend SE and weaker too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, roardog said: I haven’t been paying real close attention but it seems to me that it wasn’t too long ago that Friday was looking like a decent rain but that seems to have turned into a stronger northern stream system instead with just a dry front. Just like every snowstorm. Some sort of southern stream system tries to come this way over the weekend with rain but I’m sure that will trend SE and weaker too. You would think that the drought has a good chance of getting wiped out in this Nina winter, but if it's still there come spring, then could become a problem. Still have D2 in parts of MI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hoosier said: You would think that the drought has a good chance of getting wiped out in this Nina winter, but if it's still there come spring, then could become a problem. Still have D2 in parts of MI. It’ll be interesting if there’s still drought around next spring. If we do get a developing Nino next year then I’d assume that favors a wetter and cooler summer in the Midwest but who knows? Even if a Nino is developing by then, there could be a Nina hangover from 3 years of Nina though too. Obviously all speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, roardog said: It’ll be interesting if there’s still drought around next spring. If we do get a developing Nino next year then I’d assume that favors a wetter and cooler summer in the Midwest but who knows? Even if a Nino is developing by then, there could be a Nina hangover from 3 years of Nina though too. Obviously all speculation at this point. Yeah, I'm not real sure on a Nino happening until later in 2023. I don't see it getting going in time to have an impact on summer. Btw, via ONI method, the current Nina is peaking on the border of weak-moderate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sielicki Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Between the miss of this last storm and the warming trend that is casting serious doubts on the rest of the season, it’s been a demoralizing past 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 *Forrest Gump voice* and just like that, our 1" of snow had mell ted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, sielicki said: Between the miss of this last storm and the warming trend that is casting serious doubts on the rest of the season, it’s been a demoralizing past 10 days. The 1st week of January is going to be a torch there is no doubt about it. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Had a little bit of filtered sun today for the 1st time and I don't know when. DTW sky cover for December is a very impressive 9.3 out of 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, cyclone77 said: *Forrest Gump voice* and just like that, our 1" of snow had mell ted. Serious lol at that one. Sometimes it happens when you don't expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: Had a little bit of filtered sun today for the 1st time and I don't know when. DTW sky cover for December is a very impressive 9.3 out of 10. Your pines have really grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, weatherbo said: Your pines have really grown. They are both fast growing tree species (norway spruce and white pine) however the fact that they were planted as bare root saplings in 2018 and they are this big through the 2022 growing season it's crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Had a little bit of filtered sun today for the 1st time and I don't know when. DTW sky cover for December is a very Depressing 9.3 out of 10. FYP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Got a good chance at 60 today, especially at MLI. MLI already up to 50 at this early hour. Just 48hrs ago we got down to -5. Definitely gonna feel better than the -40 wind chills from late last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just had a wind gust that felt like it jolted the house here in IKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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