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20 hours ago, madwx said:

 

The coldest 3 month stretch of the year averages around December 1 to Feb 28. This shows that for all but a few areas in N lower and E Upper Michigan the coldest 1/4 of the year starts by December 10

 

Interesting map. Odd how way far N is latest. Lwr Lakes east of Chicago is one of the latest regions in the CONUS yet still KBUF can rake mountains of LES at the drop of a hat. 

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Missed this by a day..

As a follow-up I found this from DTX. I'd say this balanced out the bliz of '99 fail for the Thumb region. "Davison" east of Flint is my hometown. This was likely a TOP 3 storm with Jan '67 firmly holding #1 and April '75 in the #2 spot. Been too long since I've seen a good drift-maker (bliz warning of Valentine's Day 2015 to be exact). 

On This Date in Weather History...

December 11

On December 11, 2000, a powerful storm system moved east just south of Michigan, dumping heavy snow across all of the area, with some freezing rain and sleet near the Ohio border. Near blizzard conditions with up to 58 mph wind gusts were found across all of the area, with an outright blizzard in the Thumb. Many schools were closed for two to four days after the storm. Mail delivery the next day was spotty at best, and many businesses and government offices were closed. Specific snowfall amounts and impacts of the storm, by county... Bay: 8 to 10" in Bay City. Genesee: 12-14" fell, along with 4 foot drifts. Flint Bishop International Airport closed in the afternoon of the 11th, and ended up with 14", the third largest snowfall on record. Up to 200 cars were stranded on Interstate 75 just south of Flint during the storm. In Burton, the roof of a window manufacturing company collapsed. Huron: 16.2" in Port Hope. Lapeer: 12-16" near Lapeer (city), with 3 foot drifts. Interstate 69 was closed from Davison to Imlay City. Lenawee: 5.7" in Adrian with some freezing rain. Livingston: 10-15" with 3 to 5 foot drifts. Macomb: 12" across the county. Midland: 7 to 11" in Midland (city). Monroe: 8.5" just southeast of Milan; up to half an inch of freezing rain in Monroe with several trees downed due to ice and wind, and power outages. Oakland: 12" across the county. St Clair: 12.3" near Avoca; 14.7" in Ruby; 17.5" in Yale, 14" in Capac. In Port Huron, 12-20", closing the Blue Water Bridge to Canada. Saginaw: 11" in Frankenmuth with 3 foot drifts, roads drifted shut. MBS (Tri Cities) International Airport had many flights cancelled, and the airport was closed at 830 pm on the 11th. Sanilac: 13" in Brown City. Shiawassee: 15.5" in Morrice. Tuscola: 10-14" in Vassar. In Caro, 16.3" of snow fell with 4 foot drifts. An 18 car pile-up on the north side of town required snowmobiles to rescue stranded motorists. Washtenaw: 8-12" in Ann Arbor; closing Eastern Michigan University for only the second time ever. Wayne: 6-12" across the county; three-eighths inches of freezing rain in Rockwood; At Detroit Metropolitan Airport, 6.1" fell, with 197 departures and 165 arrivals cancelled.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

Missed this by a day..

As a follow-up I found this from DTX. I'd say this balanced out the bliz of '99 fail for the Thumb region. "Davison" east of Flint is my hometown. This was likely a TOP 3 storm with Jan '67 firmly holding #1 and April '75 in the #2 spot. Been too long since I've seen a good drift-maker (bliz warning of Valentine's Day 2015 to be exact). 

On This Date in Weather History...

December 11

On December 11, 2000, a powerful storm system moved east just south of Michigan, dumping heavy snow across all of the area, with some freezing rain and sleet near the Ohio border. Near blizzard conditions with up to 58 mph wind gusts were found across all of the area, with an outright blizzard in the Thumb. Many schools were closed for two to four days after the storm. Mail delivery the next day was spotty at best, and many businesses and government offices were closed. Specific snowfall amounts and impacts of the storm, by county... Bay: 8 to 10" in Bay City. Genesee: 12-14" fell, along with 4 foot drifts. Flint Bishop International Airport closed in the afternoon of the 11th, and ended up with 14", the third largest snowfall on record. Up to 200 cars were stranded on Interstate 75 just south of Flint during the storm. In Burton, the roof of a window manufacturing company collapsed. Huron: 16.2" in Port Hope. Lapeer: 12-16" near Lapeer (city), with 3 foot drifts. Interstate 69 was closed from Davison to Imlay City. Lenawee: 5.7" in Adrian with some freezing rain. Livingston: 10-15" with 3 to 5 foot drifts. Macomb: 12" across the county. Midland: 7 to 11" in Midland (city). Monroe: 8.5" just southeast of Milan; up to half an inch of freezing rain in Monroe with several trees downed due to ice and wind, and power outages. Oakland: 12" across the county. St Clair: 12.3" near Avoca; 14.7" in Ruby; 17.5" in Yale, 14" in Capac. In Port Huron, 12-20", closing the Blue Water Bridge to Canada. Saginaw: 11" in Frankenmuth with 3 foot drifts, roads drifted shut. MBS (Tri Cities) International Airport had many flights cancelled, and the airport was closed at 830 pm on the 11th. Sanilac: 13" in Brown City. Shiawassee: 15.5" in Morrice. Tuscola: 10-14" in Vassar. In Caro, 16.3" of snow fell with 4 foot drifts. An 18 car pile-up on the north side of town required snowmobiles to rescue stranded motorists. Washtenaw: 8-12" in Ann Arbor; closing Eastern Michigan University for only the second time ever. Wayne: 6-12" across the county; three-eighths inches of freezing rain in Rockwood; At Detroit Metropolitan Airport, 6.1" fell, with 197 departures and 165 arrivals cancelled.

 

 

Thry don't seem to make winter storms like any of those in yall's neck of the woods these days...

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14 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Interesting map. Odd how way far N is latest. Lwr Lakes east of Chicago is one of the latest regions in the CONUS yet still KBUF can rake mountains of LES at the drop of a hat. 

it's based on the climate cycles.  some areas are more delayed from the solstice than others.  same thing happens in summer.

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16 hours ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Everything including the kitchen sink starting tomorrow in Minnesota. Should see FRDZ transition to cold rain and a few inches of backside fluff imby. @Brian Dand further up the shore could be measuring in feet come this weekend. 

Yeah, 1-2' for sure. Blizzard warning for the North Shore with winds up to 45 mph. BRING IT!!

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Started out with a wintry mix of sleet and snow this afternoon. UHI quickly flexed it’s muscle and transitioned over to 34 and rain which it’s currently doing. Snowpack is looking very ragged. Hi res models have been hinting at a switchover to snow earlier then previously forecasted. Could wake up with a couple sloppy inches tomorrow morning.

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38 minutes ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Started out with a wintry mix of sleet and snow this afternoon. UHI quickly flexed it’s muscle and transitioned over to 34 and rain which it’s currently doing. Snowpack is looking very ragged. Hi res models have been hinting at a switchover to snow earlier then previously forecasted. Could wake up with a couple sloppy inches tomorrow morning.

This is right up you alley...

 

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12 hours ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Started out with a wintry mix of sleet and snow this afternoon. UHI quickly flexed it’s muscle and transitioned over to 34 and rain which it’s currently doing. Snowpack is looking very ragged. Hi res models have been hinting at a switchover to snow earlier then previously forecasted. Could wake up with a couple sloppy inches tomorrow morning.

looks like it rained most the night in MSP.  all i can see on the webcams is a coating at best.

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7 hours ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

low of 0 overnight. Coldest of the season. 

Nice - should drop to around 8-10F tonight here, also the coldest of the season.

Will be a bit chilly in northeast MT over the next 5 days...here's the point for the town of Plentywood. High of -20 on Wed. :snowman:

Tonight
Snow likely, mainly after 4am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around -15. Wind chill values between -30 and -35. East wind 11 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
Monday
Snow likely, mainly before 11am. Mostly cloudy and cold, with a high near -7. Wind chill values between -25 and -35. East wind 9 to 13 mph becoming west northwest in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.
Monday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around -23. Wind chill values between -40 and -50. West northwest wind 13 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.
Tuesday
Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near -18. West northwest wind 14 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph.
Tuesday Night
A 20 percent chance of snow after 11pm. Partly cloudy, with a low around -29. West northwest wind around 14 mph.
Wednesday
A 20 percent chance of snow before 11am. Partly sunny and cold, with a high near -20. Northwest wind 14 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.
Wednesday Night
Mostly cloudy, with a low around -26. Northwest wind around 18 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph.
Thursday
Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near -19. Northwest wind around 18 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph.
Thursday Night
Partly cloudy, with a low around -30. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming west southwest after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 21 mph.
Friday
A 20 percent chance of snow. Partly sunny and cold, with a high near -8. South southeast wind 10 to 16 mph.
Friday Night
A slight chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around -15.

 

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2-3" of snow on tap maybe a little more, but then temps crashing into the bitter range for the rest of the week. After a string of milder Dec's, this one will make winter lllloong. Oh well, might even have a chance to see record snows this year for some stations. I made note of them in my sig below. Strong start to the snow season.

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