clskinsfan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Weather Will said: The low position shifted closer to the coast this GEFS run. Not sure why the snow mean did not go up.. maybe that is why they are called clown maps… GEFS is straight up weenie material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: There is no reason to not want to be in the bullseyes besides superstition, we don’t want a spread of the ensembles that shows cutters At this range, a spread of ensembles that show cutters is fine. The changes that will determine what happens with our storm probably can't be resolved that well this far out (eg +PNA and the extent of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, AtlanticWx said: At this range, a spread of ensembles that show cutters is fine. The changes that will determine what happens with our storm probably can't be resolved that well this far out (eg +PNA and the extent of it) I understand that spread is to be expected but it would probably be for the best if the ensembles would begin to phase out the cutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: GEFS is straight up weenie material. Pants tent? It’s gon snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: There is no reason to not want to be in the bullseyes besides superstition, we don’t want a spread of the ensembles that shows cutters I will take my chances with something trying to cut into that block. I mean you simply cannot ask for a better setup for us to get plastered than this. It is pretty much text book perfection. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticWx Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: I understand that spread is to be expected but it would probably be for the best if the ensembles would begin to phase out the cutters We're 7 days out, they'll have time to phase out the cutters and tbh ensembles have been flip flopping on support for a cutter - can't really ride or die w/ one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Bernie Rayno seems convinced it's going negatively tilted far sooner and cutting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 WB 18Z EPS at Day 6. I leave it to your imagination to extrapolate… 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: The dumb angle is always a problem. Imagine not understanding that our inability to stay cold at this latitude is why snow never sticks around long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsedToHateCold Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, CAPE said: Imagine not understanding that our inability to stay cold at this latitude is why snow never sticks around long. This. If temps are in the low 20s sun angle hardly matters. You might lose a very small amount to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, GATECH said: And rates, if you don’t have 5”/hr rates it will never accumulate on the roads! Even that cannot overcome the searing hot Feb sun bleeding through the dense clouds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, CAPE said: Even that cannot overcome the searing hot Feb sun bleeding through the dense clouds. Mdecoy hacked your account 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, IUsedToHateCold said: This. If temps are in the low 20s sun angle hardly matters. You might lose a very small amount to it. Seen it plenty of times in our prime backloaded winters. Snow otg in early March survives nicely when temps are in the mid to upper 20s on a sunny day. Ofc at most that lasts one day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Mdecoy hacked your account Whenever I make an intentionally dense post I think of him for inspiration. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, osfan24 said: Bernie Rayno seems convinced it's going negatively tilted far sooner and cutting. Video is informative, but somewhat depressing…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 @psuhoffmanif trends continue can we get a live stream at some point for one of the model runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmclean Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: I will take my chances with something trying to cut into that block. I mean you simply cannot ask for a better setup for us to get plastered than this. It is pretty much text book perfection. It could use a 50/50 low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmclean Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, cbmclean said: It could use a 50/50 low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, cbmclean said: It could use a 50/50 low Hence "pretty much". Nice catch by the way. Edit: Those higher heights are really just an extension of the Baffin block. Not really an issue. Although we are parsing day 8 maps because we are weenies. Edit #2: That really reminds me of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Watching DT's video now. He mentioned that the GEFS was upgraded, FWIW. He seems quite excited about the pattern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I would say there would have to be significant error in the modeled PNA state to end up with a classic cutter. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Some of you mf'ers are depressingly negative all of the time yeesh take a break for a minute 13 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, leesburg 04 said: Some of you mf'ers are depressingly negative all of the time yeesh take a break for a minute Once some get a sniff of the good stuff, concern sets in that it can't be real, and rationalization begins. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, CAPE said: Once some get a sniff of the good stuff, concern sets in that it can't be real, and rationalization begins. That young kid Colin from years ago was the absolute worst but there are two on here now that rival him...I mean what a miserable existence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Man Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said: Some of you mf'ers are depressingly negative all of the time yeesh take a break for a minute Weenies putting a damper on things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said: That young kid Colin from years ago was the absolute worst but there are two on here now that rival him...I mean what a miserable existence Damn I remember him. That was before we had sub forums. PA dude right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Couple interesting - AO records broken for the first half of December. Posted this evening from Don Sutherland: The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -3.216 today. December 1-15 has experienced the strongest AO block on record for the first half of December. The AO averaged a preliminary -2.908 (old record: -2.138, 1985) with 8 days at or below -3.000 (old record: 6 days, 1966). 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, CAPE said: Damn I remember him. That was before we had sub forums. PA dude right? Yeah I don't think he ever was happy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wawarriors4 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, CAPE said: Damn I remember him. That was before we had sub forums. PA dude right? Was he the guy from Carbondale? Anyway, we have a chance to go above climo for December and right around Christmas, sounds pretty awesome to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 12/18/2009...can't remember which model showed it first but that's the last time I remember seeing something like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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