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December 2022 Medium-Long Range Disco


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2 minutes ago, BristowWx said:

2m temp anomaly 23rd Xmas Eve and Xmas day

I wouldn't sweat it too much. 

Mean Temps are in the 30s to lower 40s for those 3 days. Atleast on the 18z GEFS

Would be a nice change from the recent run of 50s and 60s it seems we have every year on Christmas day.

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38 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

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That's actually BN for my area, at least for a high.  Maybe there are warm nights due to cloud cover?

 

Edit: By the way I realize that I am a guest in this forum and the anomalies in Wilson NC is of little to no interest to most of you.  But doesn't look too bad up in the heart of the you guys' area: mid to upper 30s in the urban areas, maybe lower 30s in the outlying areas.

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2 hours ago, Wonderdog said:

Track sucks. Needs to redevelop further south. Still time.

Not sure how many times it has been posted, but it isnt the track. It is a primary rotting 800-900 miles  NW of the redevelping low. It isnt a rapid jump either so you get a SE flow at mid levels for some 800+ miles. That is going to roast the mids, that is meteo 101 stuff. You dont have rapid redevelopment and bombogenesis happening. We have been down this road numerous times in recent years (not this exact setup) where we get a perfect storm track but the antecedent airmass is stale and it rains. Hopefully most places can at least some frozen for the first time this season. Interior elevations should feel pretty good attm.

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1 hour ago, clskinsfan said:

Dude. It is literally December 10th. And we are facing an absolutely epic setup in the next month. Prime setup heading into prime climo. We are SO MUCH better off than we have been the past two Decembers. When we knew winter was over by New Years eve. Everyone needs to chill a little bit. If we dont end up getting blasted in the next month I will stop this hobby. And I have been weenieing for long god damn time. I feel really good about where we are heading. 

Totally agree. I'm not going to get worked up over this event later next week.  My focus is more on mid-month and beyond, and hopefully this advertised pattern that looks awesome gets us something by the end of the month.

By the way, clskinsfan...off the wall question that I have been meaning to ask.  I've always liked your icon photo of the car with the mound of snow on the roof!  Where did you get that or what's it from?  It kind of reminds me of being in northeast Ohio, when I'd see all these people from the main snowbelt areas driving by with a similar mound of snow on their cars.  Almost as if they were showing off!!

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6 minutes ago, Always in Zugzwang said:

Totally agree. I'm not going to get worked up over this event later next week.  My focus is more on mid-month and beyond, and hopefully this advertised pattern that looks awesome gets us something by the end of the month.

By the way, clskinsfan...off the wall question that I have been meaning to ask.  I've always liked your icon photo of the car with the mound of snow on the roof!  Where did you get that or what's it from?  It kind of reminds me of being in northeast Ohio, when I'd see all these people from the main snowbelt areas driving by with a similar mound of snow on their cars.  Almost as if they were showing off!!

They probably call it a snow crown :lol:

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11 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Not sure how many times it has been posted, but it isnt the track. It is a primary rotting 800-900 miles  NW of the redevelping low. It isnt a rapid jump either so you get a SE flow at mid levels for some 800+ miles. That is going to roast the mids, that is meteo 101 stuff. You dont have rapid redevelopment and bombogenesis happening. We have been down this road numerous times in recent years (not this exact setup) where we get a perfect storm track but the antecedent airmass is stale and it rains. Hopefully most places can at least some frozen for the first time this season. Interior elevations should feel pretty good attm.

What does it mean to say that the primary is "rotting"?

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29 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Not sure how many times it has been posted, but it isnt the track. It is a primary rotting 800-900 miles  NW of the redevelping low. It isnt a rapid jump either so you get a SE flow at mid levels for some 800+ miles. That is going to roast the mids, that is meteo 101 stuff. You dont have rapid redevelopment and bombogenesis happening. We have been down this road numerous times in recent years (not this exact setup) where we get a perfect storm track but the antecedent airmass is stale and it rains. Hopefully most places can at least some frozen for the first time this season. Interior elevations should feel pretty good attm.

What if it rotted say in Arkansas or maybe TN? Wouldn't that.make a difference in the coastal track?

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10 minutes ago, Wonderdog said:

What if it rotted say in Arkansas or maybe TN? Wouldn't that.make a difference in the coastal track?

Sure, thats a more typical miller b (is that what we r categorizing this as?) scenario ie TN Valley. But for the lowlands, where is the antecedent cold air source that we require?

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The quasi 50/50 can only do so much with what it has to work with. We are relying on an almost perfect situation where the system either bombs out and becomes dynamics-driven to help those near the fall line. Im not forecasting 33 and rain for everyone. Im actually pretty optimistic that many places see their first frozen of the season. 

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12 minutes ago, Wonderdog said:

What if it rotted say in Arkansas or maybe TN? Wouldn't that.make a difference in the coastal track?

Absolutely. And that is the crutch of this hobby. Everyone here knows so much more than your family and friends. Because we take time out of our lives to look at maps and think or prophesize about what could happen if this was here or that was there. I use anything on the models outside of day 3 as a chess piece on a huge frikin chess board. The winning pieces are there this year. Which is way beyond what we could say the past two Decembers. Just have to remember that that no matter how good your game is you can still lose. 

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14 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

No frikin clue man. I think typed "huge snow" into google a decade ago and that is what came up. Cant change it now. :)

LOL! Fair enough, was just curious. Like I said it just reminded me of seeing cars come by from places like Ashtabula or Chardon Ohio after a lake effect snow, as if they came from another world! :lol:

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